Left 4 Dead 2 not different? Yeah right

[Taerdin]

You really are fucking arrogant. Just because other people dare think that this is a great game, or that it's very different, and you think it warrants to you be sarcastic, rude, and above all just an asshole.
I didn't ask for a definition of common sense, genius. I asked why you believe your approach is common sense, and that everyone else seems to be going against common sense, i.e. that your opinion is superior. You seem to be taking 'completely different' way too literally. Of course it isn't 100% completely different down to not one single feature being repeated, it's a sequel. We don't mean it like that, we're not being that analytical with our speech to care.
I'm quite happy not to be the special project of someone as horribly arrogant as you, you go and do your work, even though that does raise the question of why you're even on here, arguing opinions with painful futility when real work needs to be done.

Oh I think its a good game, I just don't think its all that different. Also I don't see how you're being any less arrogant than me. Lastly, I don't see how my opinions are being argued with 'painful futility' when other people clearly agree with me, even within the confines of this tiny little thread.

Anyways I've run out of troll food for now, enjoy your thread.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

You really are fucking arrogant. Just because other people dare think that this is a great game, or that it's very different, and you think it warrants to you be sarcastic, rude, and above all just an asshole.
I didn't ask for a definition of common sense, genius. I asked why you believe your approach is common sense, and that everyone else seems to be going against common sense, i.e. that your opinion is superior. You seem to be taking 'completely different' way too literally. Of course it isn't 100% completely different down to not one single feature being repeated, it's a sequel. We don't mean it like that, we're not being that analytical with our speech to care.
I'm quite happy not to be the special project of someone as horribly arrogant as you, you go and do your work, even though that does raise the question of why you're even on here, arguing opinions with painful futility when real work needs to be done.

Oh I think its a good game, I just don't think its all that different. Also I don't see how you're being any less arrogant than me. Lastly, I don't see how my opinions are being argued with 'painful futility' when other people clearly agree with me, even within the confines of this tiny little thread.

Anyways I've run out of troll food for now, enjoy your thread.

Because I'm not making snide, patronising comments. It's futile because you're arguing an opinion, which is always futile.
A troll? Hah, you must not be aware of what real trolling is. But thank you, I'll enjoy what remains before it dies out and is replaced by either a 'Why do you like Halo 3' thread or a 'Favourite COD gun?' thread. I give it 20 minutes.

 

[Jonesy911]

Sorry but its basically the same game but with a few little upgrades e.g. melee weapons

 

[FightThePower]

I've had the demo for nearly a week. Fun times.

Whilst the core gameplay is practically identical (that's a good thing), there is plenty of new stuff. Over double the amount of weapons, melee weapons, new mechanics, new infected, more levels, new gameplay modes.

 

[Xris]

It's ok, but not that great. Slightly improved graphics, some extra weapons and enemies and dismemberment(which is awesome, I have to admit). But certainly not mindblowing.

It could've just been an addon, tbh.

 

[FightThePower]

I wonder if people realise that with the three new Special Infected, the total possible number of Infected Combinations goes from four in Left 4 Dead to thirty in Left 4 Dead 2. Versus is going to fucking own.

 

[Jonci]

It's ok, but not that great. Slightly improved graphics, some extra weapons and enemies and dismemberment(which is awesome, I have to admit). But certainly not mindblowing.

It could've just been an addon, tbh.

No, it couldn't have been. New campaigns, new weapons, new variations on existing weapons, new models/textures all around for existing infected, new characters, new infected, noticably improved AI, Director can switch out geometry. This isn't an addon. It is a whole new version, which is a legitimate reason to sell it as a new product. You don't put that much time, resources, and MONEY for free.

Just because the basic concept is there doesn't mean it is the same game. It is a sequel. Sequels aren't supposed to be this all amazing new game. It is supposed to be the same game, hopefully improved. You don't expect a sequel of an zombie FPS to be a RTS or something, do you?

 

[DoctorDisaster]

The demo could have been an add-on, sure.

 

[RobCoxxy]

Well even if it was quite samey, what would you expect? It being a sequel and all.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Sorry but its basically the same game but with a few little upgrades e.g. melee weapons

And new infected, a new AI system, new graphics...yeah, very small.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

I wonder if people realise that with the three new Special Infected, the total possible number of Infected Combinations goes from four in Left 4 Dead to thirty in Left 4 Dead 2. Versus is going to fucking own.

A-fucking-men to that.

 

[VanityGirl]

I'll be happy when Left4Dead2 comes out. I enjoyed the demo. I saw some noticable changes in graphics and the intellect of the AI. A jokey jumped on me and pulled me into a witch, soon after, a boomer barfed on the guys picking me up. I don't know if that was purely a one time thing or not, but it was awesome.
The AI's been improved, the directors better, the wandering witch scared the shiznit out of me. All in all, I'm enjoying it.
The demo says that Left4Dead2 may be better than the first.
The new infected will add more choice for the players in versus, which was one of my biggest gripes in Left4Dead. I played a game where I was the smoker... EVERY SINGLE TIME. Atleast now it'll be a lot harder to get the same infected over and over.

Oh and for the guy who mentioned lag, why don't you host a game and set the game to "local server" instead of "dedicated server". That way, you can make sure at least YOU aren't lagging. It helps. I never had lag until this morning when everyone and their Aunt Sally was downloading the darn demo. Then I just went to local and BAM, perfect connection.

 

[KiLl_RoY]

I think it the same thing, but of has "the" touch that makes it perfect now
-New weapons
-More super zombies
-Cutscenes
-FRYING PAN!!!!!!

 

[bcponpcp27]

I saw the demo gameplay, and it looked rather different. I love the new items and characters and stages and infected and everything! I can't wait.

 

[Left4Meds]

I've played this demo about 10 times though. About to play an 11. Machete rules so fucking hard.

 

[DazZ.]

Played it through a few times, I'm over all very happy about it.

The gameplay is faster, not as much turtling thanks to the spitter, which is a good thing.
The running to turn alarm off is ten times more intense than just holding out whilst a horde is coming.
The gore is lovely.
I like the new rifle

However I don't think the charger does enough damage. He really didn't seem like a threat, even on expert. First time I played expert he charged into 2 of my teammates catching one and smacking the other one out the way, I was expecting them to be near death but it must have taken off about 20 each. (We killed it before it started pounding) 20 each is only twice as much as a common infecteds hit.

I love the spitter, I like how damage isn't done straight away, so you have a second or two to move. Would be overpowered in VS I think otherwise.

Jockey is weird, but I did see him ride one of the survivors off the scaffolding and killing him, so I really want to be him and see if he is useful.

I'm off to play it some more.

 

[Valkyira]

I loved it, you can tell its going to be much better than the first. I looove the new pistol sound! And the pump action shotgun is pretty amazing. It looks the same as the first but the gameplay instantly strikes you as being different.

 

[Phoenix Arrow]

I miss Zoey.

It could've just been an addon, tbh.

You don't know very much about game development, do you?
I can't be bothered to go into it, but how can a game with 5 new maps, 2 new gameplay modes, 3 new special infected, a VASTLY imporved AI system, 4 new characters, at least 10 new guns, a new melee combat system as well as god knows how many weapons for that, new textures, new models, new sound and a whole new way of doing things be released as an add-on? It's not possible. An add-on could be a new map and maybe a new gameplay mode at a push. If they released it as an add-on, they'd have wasted all that manpower for all that time, it would've been more productive to just throw some cash out the window.

 

[Rusty Bucket]

fire graphics have been improved.

To be fair, this wasn't difficult. They were absolutely appaling in the first, they looked like a damn GIF.

 

[dtthelegend]

Unfortunatly, Beautiful is the only sufficient word to describe it.