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Jonluw

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Death note turns shit about halfway through. There's no avoiding that. The ending's nice though. It seems to me that the reason you love death note so much is that you only have stuff like Naruto and Bleach to compare it to. Sure Death note is pretty good - the first half is superb - if you ask me - but there are lots of better anime out there.

I suggest you try yourself on something more mature, like Code Geass, Welcome to the NHK, or, if you're really in for an emotional experience, Clannad.

Edit: To clarify After Light gave up the death note to loose his memory of it, the series start declining. There is no suspense anymore; they are just faffing about, trying to deal with this corporation that got a hold of the death note. At that point I was forcing myself to read on, hoping it would return to its former greatness as soon as Light got the death note back, and for a while after he got it back, it did actually return to being the great series I had loved. However, as soon as L dies, the author does all this bullshit, and instead of progressing the story in a potentially interesting direction, he just returns it to the status quo, with poor substitutes for L.

My theory is this: Around the point where Light gave up the death note, the mangaka, began to loose interest in the series, and run out of ideas. If you ask me, the entire sequence where L is chained to Light is clearly written by an uninspired mangaka. My theory is further supported by the scenes after Light gets the death note back (for example, the scene in the helicopter, where he regains his memories). The mangaka had clearly planned, and scripted, these scenes before making Light give up the death note; while he was still inspired. To me these scenes are a bit like a time capsule: A window into the past, to a time where the writer was still in his prime; where he still liked the series.

Then, after this brief comeback, we take a five year leap, and return to the uninspired writing we are all too familiar with by now.

Tl;dr: The mangaka got bored with the series after Light gave up the death note. This is indicated by the sequence of events right after Light got the death note back: A sequence that it is natural to assume he had scripted before writing the part where L and Light were chained together; while he was still inspired.
 

Sacman

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ohellynot said:
Sacman said:
I never really liked Deathnote, it started out fine but by the end it boiled down to, "I knew you were going to do that." countered by, "Well I knew that you knew that I was going to do that, so I did this." and I lost all interest... and then bad ending to finish it off...
Edit: if you want a really good psycho thriller check out Serial Experiments Lain or Paranoia Agent...
I disagree, I thought that Death note was a brilliant sreies untill L died, then it was a pretty good series after that but without him it just seemed less focused.
Never liked SE lain couldn't get into it, after getting a quarter of the way through it just seemed like random incoherent junk. Loved Paranoia agent, yeah that probably was better than death note :3
believe me Lain comes together when they introduce Masami Erie...
 

Dango

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ohellynot said:
I disagree, I thought that Death note was a brilliant sreies untill L died, then it was a pretty good series after that but without him it just seemed less focused.
Never liked SE lain couldn't get into it, after getting a quarter of the way through it just seemed like random incoherent junk. Loved Paranoia agent, yeah that probably was better than death note :3
I disagree with your disagreement! I really liked L, he was the one thing moving the series along, since he was the perfect nemesis for Light (which is why they were idiots for killing him off), but I agree with Sacman, it was just too much of Light going: "Oh yeah, if you do that, I'll do this! What do you say to that?" followed by L going: "This."

And also, when Light came in saying "I could be Kira but I just don't know it!" I really just wanted L to go: "Light, you're smart and all, but if you believe that any of what you just said makes any sense at all, you have a mental illness and are not fit to be part of this investigation". Seriously, how did L fall for that, oh I know, plot convenience!
 

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Dango said:
Shemming said:
Death Note is runing anime for me, all other series i try watch seems worse.[sub]help[/sub]
Do you like catgirls? Do you not mind if an anime is slightly perveted? If so, I recommend "Asobi Ni Iku Yo!", I'm having so much fun watching it. And if not, then watch Bokurano, it's an extremely underrated anime, and it's very good at screwing with your morals.
You had me sold at catgirls. What is this Asobi Ni Iku Yo about?

More OT The second half was a let down, wouldnt it be better if 'L' was a back round mystery charhcter in the first half while some other detective went up agains kira?
 

Dango

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You had me sold at catgirls. What is this Asobi Ni Iku Yo about?
This catgirl
named Eris, who is part of an alien race from the planet Catia, is sent to Earth to learn about our culture. She meets a boy named Kio and after a short series of events, moves in with him. He and a few others then begin protecting Eris from several enemies (who I won't spoil for you). It's still an ongoing series (it's only on episode 8), but lots and lots of hilariously unpredictable events have already occurred. This includes more catgirls arriving, and the establishment of Kio's house as an embassy of Catia. I love it.

Awesome.

EDIT: First episode link http://www.watchanimeon.com/asobi-ni-iku-yo-episode-1/
 

andriod

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its was good and i loved it when Light won (Light fan) I thought L was allright but not the best. It was ruined when they introduce his students coz you know he is gonna die, good ending tho.
 

zarvana

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it's pretty good. i have the full manga series, however it's far from perfect. it's hard to understand for some people, personally i had to read it twice to understand everything, and later it just gets weird. like i said, i like death note, but there are way better manga's, like one piece or tsubasa chronicles. (personal opinion)
 

ForensicYOYO

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I had a hard time deciding between Death Note or Code Geas because the both had similar characters and both rubbed me the same way. Death Note was an amazing anime but believe it or not I felt Code Geas won my vote. BTW L is way cooler then stupid Nero.
 

Jonluw

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zarvana said:
it's pretty good. i have the full manga series, however it's far from perfect. it's hard to understand for some people, personally i had to read it twice to understand everything, and later it just gets weird. like i said, i like death note, but there are way better manga's, like one piece or tsubasa chronicles. (personal opinion)
What parts, exactly, were hard to understand?
 

reg42

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I liked it, though the second half was a lot worse than the first half. If you've watched it then you should know why.
 

zarvana

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Jonluw said:
zarvana said:
it's pretty good. i have the full manga series, however it's far from perfect. it's hard to understand for some people, personally i had to read it twice to understand everything, and later it just gets weird. like i said, i like death note, but there are way better manga's, like one piece or tsubasa chronicles. (personal opinion)
What parts, exactly, were hard to understand?

personally, i didn't find it to hard to understand, only a few thing i had to read once more to understand what they were saying. but my brother had to read it three times before he understood anything during the camera "fight"
 

Bakuryukun

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Likable and realistic? Your joking right? Light is an idiot douchebag who thinks he's a super genius who's going to rule the world as a god. Oh yeah, also he's attractive...and good at sports...and good with the ladies and....well he's pretty much good at everything, especially being a twat.

L is a teenager who is smarter than everyone in the world except for Light with whom he is equal.

Misa is dumber than bricks and it just goes on and on, I found the regular detectives to be the best characters in the show (though really I didn't mind L and Near I suppose)

Sorry to say but likable and realistic aren't the first words that leap into my mind when I think of Death Note characters

I watched AND read the entire series through, I gave it plenty of chances because I had heard such good things and while I found the manga was at least okay, the anime is just downright EMBARRASSING to watch. Like, my god the montages of people dying were laughable and ridiculous it was really overdone, with the dramatic music and the overemphasized pen strokes and occasionally even more ridiculous things like that stupid potato chip scene which I personally think is the dumbest scene I have ever seen in an anime in my entire life. I understand that they were trying to convey that Light's feeling of power while writing the names down, but it still occurred to me as over the top, but not really in a good way.

But the WORST thing about Death Note, is that it pretends to be a thinkers anime, this really annoys me, not 5 seconds can go by without Light or L explaining what the hell it is that they're planning, or what they just did, or what they're going to do, or what they think the other person is thinking. This is NOT good story-telling, This is spoon-feeding. The whole series' is like that one scene from The Princess Bride with the poisoned goblets, only instead of realizing how ridiculous it is, they take it VERY VERY SERIOUSLY. I understand that some of the scenes of exposition are necessary and that's fine, but I think the whole series could have greatly benefited from letting the audience figure out what was going on, instead of flat-out telling them, considering that the series has a horror-like aesthetic I think an air of mystery could have really elevated the whole experience and indeed made it darker and vastly better. I'd even go so far as to say that the show would probably been a lot better if L was the Protagonist from the start and done from his perspective primarily, while only switching to Light's perspective when necessary.

Though to be fair, as the series went on I do feel it got better, and I actually like both the ending in the manga and anime, but overall I certainly could live without Death Note.


Also Light is a twat.
 

EMFCRACKSHOT

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I love deathnote, it was a great manga and anime, at least for the first half. When near came along, it definitely took a turn for the worse.
Personally, i preferred the way the movie ended things.
There is more to it, but this was all i could find, damn youtube xD
 

MasterV

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Good until the half way point. After, I really lost interest. Huge drop in interest.
All that needs to ba said, really. The latter half was just boring.
 

Jonluw

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zarvana said:
Jonluw said:
zarvana said:
it's pretty good. i have the full manga series, however it's far from perfect. it's hard to understand for some people, personally i had to read it twice to understand everything, and later it just gets weird. like i said, i like death note, but there are way better manga's, like one piece or tsubasa chronicles. (personal opinion)
What parts, exactly, were hard to understand?

personally, i didn't find it to hard to understand, only a few thing i had to read once more to understand what they were saying. but my brother had to read it three times before he understood anything during the camera "fight"
The fight between L and Light, you mean?
 

Master Kuja

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First half was good, got shit after L died.
I used to really like the show as a whole, but the more I watch over it, the more I think that it's just...Not as good as all the uber-fans make it out to be, seriously, it's decent but it's not the messiah of all anime.

Frankly, I prefer Monster in terms of logical plot, character development, maturity and just general...Awesomeness.
It's similar to Death Note, just a thousand times better.