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neuromasser

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mentor07825 said:
It's not a paradox really, it just makes sense. I've read the Chaos theory from the Chaos Codex and Daemon Codex, which are simpler versions of the Chaos theory. I've also skimmed through the works of Chaos theorists (one has inspired me for a tattoo someday) and read the works of Terry Pratchett.

All I can say is that it makes sense, and is best not thought about.
Actually it can help in understanding how things work but nevermind.

Care to share your tattoo idea?
 

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PlasticTree said:
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Also, seriously... What's up with Jesus.
In what context? Where he stands in the Chaos Theory? I don't have a clue what you are asking here.
In all of them...
Duuuuuuude. In all theories? Even I don't have that much time. :)
Not just all of the theories... All of the different contexts as well!
 

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FreelanceButler said:
Death.
That's another 100% chance thingy..
All things require a universal definition, such as platos perfect forms before pre-conception. Though in my view descartes "god is perfect- therefore god is" is such a copout, the pretext for being perfect does not define one for existence. Death to you might mean when our mortal existence passed and we no longer have being, but this could be different for someone else. Therefore death has not occured, within the same constraints

Perfection is un-acceptable in a world with existence, flaweless is the correct term one must use. Flawless and perfect, although used similarly are completly different altogether. For something to be perfect, it must therefore meat all requirements for said object and be truly perfect in the mind of all who behold it. For something to be flawless it mearly needs to not contain errors within itself, I.E not having anything wrong, instead of activly having to have something right.
 

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Captain Pancake said:
"There is a certainty in uncertainty, a chance for every random occurence, and an absolute for nothing."
-Myself
Quoting yourself is the one of the most stupidly redundant things you can do.
 

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Delicious said:
Captain Pancake said:
"There is a certainty in uncertainty, a chance for every random occurence, and an absolute for nothing."
-Myself
Quoting yourself is the one of the most stupidly redundant things you can do.
You're only saying that because you didn't think of it first. :p

But to be on topic, the only certain and exact variables are those that have already happened.

although i predict someone else's logic will disprove this too...
 

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All I know about Chaos is...

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

Sorry, had to do that. Really though, I had a lecture on this a few years ago, before I came to university, I attended a lecture about Chaos Theory on an open visit to Leeds Uni and it went straight over my head. Hence, I'm kind of unsure what the OP is on about, although I'll hopefully understand more when I attend the module on it in the next few years :)
 

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In things like this when examples of loopholes come up with basic logic, then either the way you're understanding the concept or the concept itself is flawed.

If there is no 0% and no 100%, then "chaos" and "certainty" become thresholds, not 0%/100%, respectively. Maybe call "chaos" at less then 10% and "certainty" at above 90%.

Or maybe "chaos" and "certainty" don't have any place in something where there is neither. "Possibility" may be all that exists in this regard- nothing is certain, but nothing is chaos. Predictions can always be made, and they are not always right.
 

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Captain Pancake said:
Delicious said:
Captain Pancake said:
"There is a certainty in uncertainty, a chance for every random occurence, and an absolute for nothing."
-Myself
Quoting yourself is the one of the most stupidly redundant things you can do.
You're only saying that because you didn't think of it first. :p

But to be on topic, the only certain and exact variables are those that have already happened.

although i predict someone else's logic will disprove this too...
I... I could've thought of it!

I just didn't want to. Yeah.
 

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mrpenguinismyhomeboy said:
ColdStorage said:
thats the thing, Chaos theory itself knows that by its own rules it can be broken, and thats the beauty of it, when Chaos theory is broken by its own laws then it was chaos theory that broke itself.

Its the theory that everything is uncertain, including, its own formula that it isn't strictly governed by.
Again sorry for being an ass about this, but I study these things in my free time. You are thinking of the uncertainty principle. Chaotic things can be predicted with accuracy, but only up to a certain time. The uncertainty principle states that nothing can be certain, but even the uncertainty principle isn't uncertain about it self. That's a philosophical argument, not a scientific argument, because there is no evidence to support that the principle is uncertain of itself. It would be ridiculous, because the implications of that would suggest that the uncertainty principle flops in and out of existence at times which we cannot be certain about either, and so because we couldn't even be certain about when you could be certain and when you couldn't, it would just be disregarded.
Its Quantum mechanics at its basic level.
 

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aww, I thought you were talking about someone named "major paradox"
That would've been awesome.

But yeah, Paradoxes are all over the place. I broke a religion with a paradox and a few strips of duct tape once, ah, those were the days.
 

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mentor07825 said:
If I ever did a tattoo, it would be done based on the works of Michael Moorcock. I'm thinking of something of the Symbol of Chaos on my left shoulder on my back, with a tall majestic woman blindfolded clasping her two hands on a large sword pointing down on the middle of my back, with golden scales in front of her and the Symbol of Law on my right shoulder. Each symbol will have a small faint glow of their colour around them, and the scales being the biggest symbol, because it's Order and thus the most profound aspect.
Nice :)

I thought about having just Symbol of Chaos tattooed, but I somewhere along the way my interest in tattoos dropped, so meh :p
It's a shame really, because my feelings, interest in things, growth and other things function like circle and Chaos star combined.

Also good luck with explaining that concept to the tattoo artist :p
 

ArcWinter

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I'd say the Chaos Theory doesn't matter. Do you know why? Event horizon. Think about it. Then imagine it. You can't.