Man kills newborn daughter because he couldn't afford to keep her

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LikeDustInTheWind

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Hobonicus said:
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OmniscientOstrich said:
Markgraf said:
And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
No, just no.
Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.
If he really has to explain why murdering a sentient newborn when adoption was an option is different than legally aborting a fetus before the birth, then chances are it would fall on deaf ears anyway.
I understand the difference I just wanted to know his reason for saying no.
 

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Nick Stackware said:
OmniscientOstrich said:
Markgraf said:
And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
No, just no.
Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.
A fetus has no cognitive functions and can not feel pain until after at least the 26th week, it's not the same thing as battering an infant to death with a brick.
 

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OmniscientOstrich said:
Nick Stackware said:
OmniscientOstrich said:
Markgraf said:
And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
No, just no.
Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.
A fetus has no cognitive functions and can not feel pain until after at least the 26th week, it's not the same thing as battering an infant to death with a brick.
Technically newborns have pretty much no awareness for a week or two but I admit this is still really fucking sick. He... He hit a baby with a cement block. There is something horribly wrong with him.
 

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Count Igor said:
Markgraf said:
And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
Abortion happens before the egg is fertilized enough to even be classified as.. I think living, actually. As it hasn't gone through every stage required (I think there are seven... Respiration's one of them). This is a fully conscious baby. It can make noise, have faint recognition and memory. These are two completely different things.
I agree. There is a difference between killing a human and terminating a developing zygote.

As for the real baby-murderer here, he needs to be locked up. Like, now.
 

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Holy fcuking split that is fcuking awful!!! Sick sick sick fucks!!! Hope they both.burn in hell!!! Just read the story again, there is a.special place in hell reserved for this sick sick couple
 

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Dags90 said:
dogstile said:
You clearly didn't read the article
I have and I still think it's fucked up to go about calling her a whore.
Well, you don't think women who, and I quote "reportedly had 5 other children by different men" deserve to be called whores.

I however, do, so we'll have to agree to disagree.
 

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Nick Stackware said:
OmniscientOstrich said:
Markgraf said:
And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
No, just no.
Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.
Abortion != infanticide. Abortion is performed within the first couple of months while the child is still in the womb and has not fully formed. This is taking an already born baby and crushing its head with a cinder block. The fact that you either cant make that distinction or are trying to make a political point by intentionally ignoring the distinction is just plain disturbing.

SUPA FRANKY said:
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Why in the hell did that woman get pregnant in the first place!?
Not to make light of the situation, but sometimes condoms break or aren't put on properly. Sometimes women forget to take the pill. Whole lot of variables.

But what he did was inhumane.
That ceases to fly as a reason when it happens five times. She may have a belief system that forbids birth control.
 

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Hobonicus said:
Nick Stackware said:
OmniscientOstrich said:
Markgraf said:
And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
No, just no.
Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.
If he really has to explain why murdering a sentient newborn when adoption was an option is different than legally aborting a fetus before the birth, then chances are it would fall on deaf ears anyway.
Sentient? I believe not. A newborn child is still lacking in higher brain functions due to lack of development in the cortex and limbic system. The brain stem is still controlling said child, which by most accounts has already developed in the sixth week of pregnancy. Try again.

Canid117 said:
Nick Stackware said:
OmniscientOstrich said:
Markgraf said:
And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
No, just no.
Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.
Abortion != infanticide. Abortion is performed within the first couple of months while the child is still in the womb and has not fully formed. This is taking an already born baby and crushing its head with a cinder block. The fact that you either cant make that distinction or are trying to make a political point by intentionally ignoring the distinction is just plain disturbing.
You've just made my point: by calling the fetus a child it implicitly acknowledges the child's nature as a human being. Regardless of age-based distinctions, taking a life is murder. Quite simply I was drawing attention to the hypocritical social perspectives as to what constitutes human life and what does not.
 

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JESUS CHRIST!

3 Things this couple have done

1. Adoption

2.Abortion..... Actually scratch that Abortilns are for rapes and accidents.. 2. DONT BE A WHORE..

3.WEAR A CONDOM OR GET YOUR TUBES TIED LADY!

Also someone should phone Social Services before this guy loses money at poker and has to kill his other kids
 

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dogstile said:
Well, you don't think women who, and I quote "reportedly had 5 other children by different men" deserve to be called whores.

I however, do, so we'll have to agree to disagree.
Nope. We know she reportedly had sex with anywhere from 2-5 other men. 3-6 sexual partners is not particularly out there for the average U.S. woman her age.

Calling her a whore is lazy, misogynistic name calling.
 

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Mackheath said:
...So what?

People in China drown their kids because of the population control laws there. Kids-especially girls- often get chucked into the nearest river they can find, because they lose a lot of shit in society if they have more than one kid.

I feel nothing. Less than nothing.
You know, all your really doing is troll-baiting. Do you like people getting pissed at you? You could have kept it all to yourself, but no. Now this thread is just going to get everyone screaming at the top of their lungs at you.

Why does this happen all the time?
 

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Dags90 said:
dogstile said:
He's disgusting and she's a whore.

I don't really think there is anything left to add.
What the fuck?

She's a whore for having a child with her longtime boyfriend? DOES NOT COMPUTE.
I was going to say the same thing, but read the article, mate. She had five other kids with other men. Some people should just be fixed at birth.
 

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Markgraf said:
You've just made my point: by calling the fetus a child it implicitly acknowledges the child's nature as a human being. Regardless of age-based distinctions, taking a life is murder. Quite simply I was drawing attention to the hypocritical social perspectives as to what constitutes human life and what does not.
Listen dude, no one is going to solve the pro-choice vs. pro-life debate here of all places, so lets stop having it. People argue insanely about it and neither of you are going to agree. Someone once told me there are three things you should never bring up in conversation with a stranger: religion, abortion and politics. People feel too strongly about their opinions about these things to keep from becoming heated. I originally thought you were just arguing a very poorly made point, but I begin to smell a troll.
 

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Markgraf said:
And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
So an abortion is when you drop a cinderblock on the head a newborn baby twice? Never knew that. -_-
 

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Another guy to add to my list of people who could improve the world by jumping off a cliff
 

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If only he could have taken the baby to a hospital or fire station. Oh wait...he fucking could. If only we had the eye for an eye accountability. He wouldn't die. But it would hurt like hell.