Man kills newborn daughter because he couldn't afford to keep her

[Siberian Relic]

And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.

No, just no.

Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.

A fetus has no cognitive functions and can not feel pain until after at least the 26th week, it's not the same thing as battering an infant to death with a brick.

You have no idea what that fetus might become one day. Want a cure for cancer? Well, the one who would've discovered it was aborted in the '80s, so too bad. How about the next Great American President? Whoops, that one bit the dust before it could "germinate", so no luck there.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

There aren't words to describe how despicable that is. Didn't it occur to him to put the baby up for adoption or even abandon it (alive) in a basket at a hospital/orphanarium? Even that wouldn't have been nearly so cruel. That's evil beyond my ability to comment on.

 

[Iron Mal]

...So what?

People in China drown their kids because of the population control laws there. Kids-especially girls- often get chucked into the nearest river they can find, because they lose a lot of shit in society if they have more than one kid.

I feel nothing. Less than nothing.

Just because a terrible thing happens frequently somewhere else it doesn't mean that act is any less terrible, an innocent child has been killed in a brutal fashion, even worse, it happened in a society that is allegedly 'advanced' and 'enlightened' enough that alternatives should have been avaliable and considered.

Don't take this personally but I'd still call you a cold and heartless person for feeling nothing/less than nothing in response to this.

As to the subject of is this better or worse than abortion, I personally think that abortion is a vastly more humane and acceptable alternative to crushing your newborn daughter's head with a cinder block, an aborted embryo is merely a collection of developing cells, it has no thoughts, no feelings or even a basic level of awareness, a new born baby is a living, breathing person.

I'm not normally one for emotive language but I would safely say that the man responsablefor this is a monster and that he deserves severe punishment for his careless and inhumane actions.

 

[Vykrel]

lets all hope he gets killed in prison, folks... even criminals often have a code: children are off-limits.

 

[Jegsimmons]

And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.

Agreed good Sir

same here...but then again he could have been a bit more humane than that.


also i dont get this.

in todays society of WAY too easy to get government assistance, god knows what charity organization, and the ability to set up adoption or some government funded day care center or some shit,what came over them to come to the conclusion that they needed to kill this poor infant.....its also why i dont understand the logic behind abortions either.

but back to the issue, these people need the death penalty for being such fucked up cold hearted selfish bastards.

 

[Not PvP Flagged]

However, and I'm gonna be hated for saying this, I don't think this guy should be charged as harshly as if he'd killed a grown child or adult. It's only a newborn baby it's not got any real feelings or emotions the same as, say, a 1 year old does.

I hate to agree with you but yeah, the baby really didn't have any feelings or emotions, but the guy should still be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[Smiles]

Isn't healthcare in America really expensive?

 

[Jegsimmons]

And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.

No, just no.

Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.

A fetus has no cognitive functions and can not feel pain until after at least the 26th week, it's not the same thing as battering an infant to death with a brick.

You have no idea what that fetus might become one day. Want a cure for cancer? Well, the one who would've discovered it was aborted in the '80s, so too bad. How about the next Great American President? Whoops, that one bit the dust before it could "germinate", so no luck there.

You also have not idea what the fetus could become one day, saying all those idealistic positive cliches like becoming President and curing Cancer? Please. Unlike you, I consider this, but also that maybe the baby will become something bad, kill somebody, sell hard drugs, commit rape etc.

what? no innocence until proven guilty?
wait until the fucker actually DOES something before passing negative judgement.

 

[SUPA FRANKY]

...So what?

People in China drown their kids because of the population control laws there. Kids-especially girls- often get chucked into the nearest river they can find, because they lose a lot of shit in society if they have more than one kid.

I feel nothing. Less than nothing.

You know, all your really doing is troll-baiting. Do you like people getting pissed at you? You could have kept it all to yourself, but no. Now this thread is just going to get everyone screaming at the top of their lungs at you.

Why does this happen all the time?

Honesty =/= troll baiting. I'm not going to sugarcoat how I feel just to preserve peoples delicate sensabilities, and if stating my opinion makes me bad, then I'm bad. *Shrug* As for liking people getting angry at me, yes and no.

They guy who asked the abortion thing in an earlier post is my definition of trollbaiting.

Fair enough. This sort of attitude really won't make you any new friends, howerver.

 

[OmniscientOstrich]

And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.

No, just no.

Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.

A fetus has no cognitive functions and can not feel pain until after at least the 26th week, it's not the same thing as battering an infant to death with a brick.

You have no idea what that fetus might become one day. Want a cure for cancer? Well, the one who would've discovered it was aborted in the '80s, so too bad. How about the next Great American President? Whoops, that one bit the dust before it could "germinate", so no luck there.

Well as long as we're using wildly unrealistic and extreme examples, what if an 11 year old girl is raped by her father? Should she be forced to keep that child?

 

[Jegsimmons]

Isn't healthcare in America really expensive?

really it depends, and even if you don't have health care many states (including my own) has a program that gives children 12 and under free medical care.


honestly if they'd make insurance to where we could purchase it across state borders it would lower the cost quite a bit....but i digress.
again, it really depends on who your getting it from and pre existing conditions.

 

[Dango]

Poor girl...

Wouldn't it have been better just to put her up for adoption?

 

[Jegsimmons]

And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.

No, just no.

Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.

A fetus has no cognitive functions and can not feel pain until after at least the 26th week, it's not the same thing as battering an infant to death with a brick.

You have no idea what that fetus might become one day. Want a cure for cancer? Well, the one who would've discovered it was aborted in the '80s, so too bad. How about the next Great American President? Whoops, that one bit the dust before it could "germinate", so no luck there.

You also have not idea what the fetus could become one day, saying all those idealistic positive cliches like becoming President and curing Cancer? Please. Unlike you, I consider this, but also that maybe the baby will become something bad, kill somebody, sell hard drugs, commit rape etc.

what? no innocence until proven guilty?
wait until the fucker actually DOES something before passing negative judgement.

You obviously didn't comprehend my post.
And you wait until the 'fucker' (nice word for a baby by the way, good one!) DOES something positive until passing positive judgement.

sorry, but im a believer in the pro-chance stance, every life has a chance to live as a productive member of society.
also, i like useing the word fucker. rolls off the tongue.fucker.

 

[Kadoodle]

This reminds me of the sort of white trash that, when they can't take care of their dog anymore, decide that the best and only option is to put a gun to its head.

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