Man kills newborn daughter because he couldn't afford to keep her
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A dude drops a cinderblock on a baby's head and you blame the mother for getting pregnant? Wut?Malo_Tux said:
They're obviously both inhuman, stupid, and incapable of understanding birth control, but the man's a freaking monster.
"She reportedly had 5 other children by different men."Dags90 said:
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Ontopic, it doesn't really phase me because this happens a million times a minute in China, but he really should've just put it up for adoption.
What the fuck is wrong with you. Human life is human life. He deserves life in prison, nothing less.The Plunk said:
Although this woman seems to be rather careless (understatement) >_> with birth control I would just like to point out that things can be rather random.
My sister is married and both of her kids were accidental she was on the pill and they used a condom I think it can just have small chance of happening at any point.
Plus my brother in law is clearly Duke Nukem or something. :|
My sister is married and both of her kids were accidental she was on the pill and they used a condom I think it can just have small chance of happening at any point.
Plus my brother in law is clearly Duke Nukem or something. :|
Without getting into the debate about abortion entered into above, a newborn is a human life and society rightly, perhaps arguably for your part, assigns it the same value of a human life. However I and most of our societies would argue that babies and the elderly are our most vulnerable and in both cases to be protected and cherished. Anyone who can murder a child, let alone a baby, a disabled person or an elderly person is a coward and criminal of the absolute worst sort, worse than murdering an adult who at least can defend themselves.The Plunk said:
This crime is further compounded by the fact it's his own child. It goes against all forms of accepted human behaviour...biological, societal, religious, moral and legal. He should be nurturing, cherishing and protecting his child. But murder? He couldn't even just leave it in a shopping bag near a hospital as other cowards have done? Children are the future just as our elders are our past and both deserve to live with dignity & security and those who do them harm should be grateful that I for one am not the one passing sentence. He's not a well functioning human being and should be removed from the rest of society.
Whether you support abortion or not, you can't deny there's a difference between a medical procedure to remove an undeveloped, non-sentient cluster of cells, and dropping a cinderblock on the head of a conscious, fully-formed and anatomically independent baby.AlexNora said:
There's also the very real possibility that the woman, who was so poor she gave birth to her child in a parked car, simply can't afford consistent birth control and family planning services. There's a good chance she didn't take prenatal vitamins or do the recommended checkups, either. That doesn't make her a terrible person, it makes her poor.xXxJessicaxXx said:
Honestly, if most women in the US (and most developed countries I'd imagine) suddenly didn't have access to birth control and family planning services, five kids by several fathers would not be particularly uncommon for a 28 year old woman.
I think the reactions are for the same reason so many people go abroad for charity work. Nobody likes to think about the fact that bad things also happen around them(unless they live in an openly unpleasant place, and even then...), so when they're presented with something like this, in "their own back yard", it kind of hits an uncomfortable mental button.The Plunk said:
I disagree with you on the matter of leniency. I understand your argument about the newborn basically being a blank slate and therefore being "worth" (I know this is probably not the word you would use, I'm just lacking imagination at the moment) less than an older child, but the fact is that the man chose to kill his child in cold blood, despite the alternatives, simply as matter of personal convenience. No matter the age of the victim this is wrong, and cannot become less so. The fact that it was his own, defenceless newborn child just adds to the nausea and anger this story gives me.The Plunk said:
The66Monkey said:
Though I might not agree with the extent some people of faith might go to in advancing their particular views, none of them "pushed" this heinous, rotten sack of pus, into killing his own child. There may be pickets around abortion clinics, but I don't recall there being any around orphanages, adoption homes or, if you're feeling Notre Dame'ish, the local church's steps. You cannot put the blame anywhere but in the hands of that...man.
And I fail to see how you can find ANY good in the manner of the child's death. Even on the grounds of "the quickest way", the very fact that he apparently had to drop the cinder block TWICE attests to a not so instantaneous departure...
Doesn't planned parenthood give them away for free anyway?Jingai09 said:
If you arn't using protection you should have to live by your fucking mistakes. How does someone not learn after however many other children?
The baby was already a live, somewhat autonomous human being while an unborn foetus is a potential human being that is still in development and has no higher brain functions. Plus, even if you completely disregard that point, you should keep in mind that banning it does not keep people from actually getting the abortions, and instead they get it done by unscrupulous businessmen in less than sanitary conditions--it's about dealing with the problem at large, not necessarily about "fixing it" perse by keeping people ignorant and away from the problem, as the only way to do that is with comprehensive sexual education and contraceptive use.Nick Stackware said: