Man shoots up Gym in Penn. Killing 3 then himself. THIS is what was going through his mind.

[LaBambaMan]

Some people just can't handle the world around them, and instead of seeking help they lash out and take on the world they feel has shunned them.

 

[-Orgasmatron-]

While it may be a selfish act to them, it's really selfish to those that love them, and to the rest of us who have to go on in life. I've gone through some pretty shitty stuff over the years and I've thought once or twice about just stopping, but I remind myself that it wouldn't be helping me at all, at it would really hurt those around me. I know I wouldn't want people being angry at me, or hurt, because I decided to do away with myself.

From their point of view they're doing the world a favour, so they're not being selfish, it's all about perspective.

 

[Gaderael]

While it may be a selfish act to them, it's really selfish to those that love them, and to the rest of us who have to go on in life. I've gone through some pretty shitty stuff over the years and I've thought once or twice about just stopping, but I remind myself that it wouldn't be helping me at all, at it would really hurt those around me. I know I wouldn't want people being angry at me, or hurt, because I decided to do away with myself.

From their point of view they're doing the world a favour, so they're not being selfish, it's all about perspective.

Yeah, when I wrote "While it may be a selfish act to them", I meant to write selfless. But yes, I agree with you, it is all about perspective.

 

[Dr Ampersand]

Damn he had some problems. Mainly about his perception about what was wrong with him and what his values were. Still, he shouldn't of killed the 3 women and wounded the 9 others.

 

[Lopunny]

Looks intensely fake

Good good, i was starting for feel guilty about thinking it was, it just seems too convienient...

 

[SultanP]

I get it. And that diary could become mine if I would let it, apart from the murdering bit. He took a wrong turn when deciding to kill other people just because he found no enjoyment in life. Also, I think he over simplified his issues, pinning them only on lack of female company. I believe that he did not fit in to society in general, but maybe failed to realize the full extent of the source of his unhappiness.

 

[Biek]

Incidentally, "shooting up the gym" has become a meme on 4chan's /fit/ channel.

But yeah, I read his blog and I gotta say it frightened me. I go to the gym in order to improve my body and with it my self esteem. (im insecure about my body) But unlike him, I socialize quite well with people, have plenty of friends and I have better hobbies than 'browsing google to relax'.

This guy had some serious issues regarding his past though. And I think thats main problem. He was socially completely inept.

 

[quiet_samurai]

How the hell can anyone fell sorry for this psychotic loser? What about the victims? Did anyone ever think for a second that the reason women didn't want anything to do with him is because he was a weirdo? I have a friend who is a 26 year old virgin because of his attitude towards women. They don't like him because he's bitter and he's bitter because they don't like him. I don't relate to him in any way nor feel empathy, his lack of social life was clearly his own doing and because he didn't have the balls to change it he made others suffer for it. He should have just saved himself the trip and only killed himself, or gotten therapy.

Here's my problem: Should certain individuals HAVE to succumb to the wrongdoings of society, change themselves completely, and basically become a completely different person who sacrifices their morals and beliefs...to appease and attain some vague sense of attraction which is such an overrated, exaggerated demand in today's world?

Most men that are virgin's in todays world are, in my experience, typically victims of the ignorance and demand in modern times. I seriously hold NOTHING against virgins due to this fact alone. The more morality you feel, the greater sense of reality you have, and the higher beauty you see above others is marred by the fact that you never bring yourself down to the level of the unworthy.

Did you ever think that maybe it's that one individual person who is the unworthy one? How is it societies fault for certain peoples shortcomings? There is no one standard in society when it comes to finding someone, and people that say there is are either ignorant or suffer from delusions. Finding a girlfriend or getting laid is not that hard to do, you just have to put in the effort and not be afraid of rejection and realize that it may take several tries. Trust me, if you stood out on the sidewalk and devoted an entire day to asking out every girl that walked by you, I guarantee one hundred percent that eventually one will say yes.

Yes, but people also have something called standards. It may be looks, personality, trust, whatever.
Societies standards are a little out of proportion right now, and people lie. A lot.
Society can, and does, eventually find a way to stress the wrong things in life. Like how looks are more important than personality, or how bigger breasts mean a better girlfriend, or how a guy that looks like X acts the way he dresses and is therefore going to be a better catch.
People don't want to get to know someone else before they decide if they want to date them, they want to date them now. They want instant gratification.

Yes, you can get laid and find a girlfriend. But guess what, it's getting harder for some people to find a committed relationship in which they feel secure.

The world should focus internally on each other and not just see what's on the outside, I totally agree with you. But that's not how it is. People shouldn't lie, rob, and murder but they do. And your confusing attraction with shallowness or unrealistic standards. Attraction is what makes or breaks your decision to want to date someone, and it happens instantly. Usually if a person does not want to be romantically involved with you from the get go they probably won't later on. That's how attraction works.

 

[quiet_samurai]

Did you ever think that maybe it's that one individual person who is the unworthy one?

Apparently he did. Society certainly encourages such thoughts.

Finding a girlfriend or getting laid is not that hard to do

Getting laid's easy. Go to seedy strip-club. Take much cash. Finding a long-term lover is a very different prospect. Someone who's still a virgin because he was never interested in a half-a-night affair with some drunk from a dark club gets no disrespect from me for that.

--
The above is the opinion of one of those girly-type things that likes eye contact and a personality. Opinions of lager-swilling soccer louts may differ ... widely!

I in no way, shape or form, was talking about prostitution. I was talking about doing it the normal way, by being more social. Jesus he could have tried E-harmony or something. But he focused on his problems by blaming everyone else for them.

 

[Jenkins]

....
I need to get a girlfriend before I go on a psychotic rampage, I guess.

No, seriously...
I'm ridiculously scared for my sanity now.

that is exactly what went through my mind when I read his stuff.


hmm. well better go put on the straight jacket.

 

[SsilverR]

holy crap ... i feel for the guy .. damn that's harsh

 

[SsilverR]

also ... it's very scary to think that sexual frustration can develope into something like this

 

[SsilverR]

For the good of the world I must start dating as many lonely men as possible.

*dons cape* Let's do this boys!

Seriously ladies, blow jobs save lives!

irony is that although that was intended as a joke, there's some massive truth in that ... deep complex psychology that i can't fit in this GUI keyboard (i'm on the PS3's browser anc can't type much)

 

[crypt-creature]

How the hell can anyone fell sorry for this psychotic loser? What about the victims? Did anyone ever think for a second that the reason women didn't want anything to do with him is because he was a weirdo? I have a friend who is a 26 year old virgin because of his attitude towards women. They don't like him because he's bitter and he's bitter because they don't like him. I don't relate to him in any way nor feel empathy, his lack of social life was clearly his own doing and because he didn't have the balls to change it he made others suffer for it. He should have just saved himself the trip and only killed himself, or gotten therapy.

Here's my problem: Should certain individuals HAVE to succumb to the wrongdoings of society, change themselves completely, and basically become a completely different person who sacrifices their morals and beliefs...to appease and attain some vague sense of attraction which is such an overrated, exaggerated demand in today's world?

Most men that are virgin's in todays world are, in my experience, typically victims of the ignorance and demand in modern times. I seriously hold NOTHING against virgins due to this fact alone. The more morality you feel, the greater sense of reality you have, and the higher beauty you see above others is marred by the fact that you never bring yourself down to the level of the unworthy.

Did you ever think that maybe it's that one individual person who is the unworthy one? How is it societies fault for certain peoples shortcomings? There is no one standard in society when it comes to finding someone, and people that say there is are either ignorant or suffer from delusions. Finding a girlfriend or getting laid is not that hard to do, you just have to put in the effort and not be afraid of rejection and realize that it may take several tries. Trust me, if you stood out on the sidewalk and devoted an entire day to asking out every girl that walked by you, I guarantee one hundred percent that eventually one will say yes.

Yes, but people also have something called standards. It may be looks, personality, trust, whatever.
Societies standards are a little out of proportion right now, and people lie. A lot.
Society can, and does, eventually find a way to stress the wrong things in life. Like how looks are more important than personality, or how bigger breasts mean a better girlfriend, or how a guy that looks like X acts the way he dresses and is therefore going to be a better catch.
People don't want to get to know someone else before they decide if they want to date them, they want to date them now. They want instant gratification.

Yes, you can get laid and find a girlfriend. But guess what, it's getting harder for some people to find a committed relationship in which they feel secure.

The world should focus internally on each other and not just see what's on the outside, I totally agree with you. But that's not how it is. People shouldn't lie, rob, and murder but they do. And your confusing attraction with shallowness or unrealistic standards. Attraction is what makes or breaks your decision to want to date someone, and it happens instantly. Usually if a person does not want to be romantically involved with you from the get go they probably won't later on. That's how attraction works.

I'm not confusing attraction with shallowness, since I was implying that a lot of people are basing their "attraction" on their shallowness (or selfishness).
Example (a real example), a man dates a girl that, while he does find her good looking, he is doing so more because he is bored.
Interest in a person happens instantly, real attraction takes a lot longer than that.

But again, a person who doesn't want to be romantically involved with a person can still date them, that doesn't mean that they will stay with them. If it gets more serious than they care for, they leave. If they get bored with the person, they leave. That is quickly becoming a "normal" situation with people these days. A lot of people have unrealistic standards, young or old, and it's becoming more common.
My point was, people are letting their unrealistic desires blind-side their 'attraction' towards others more often than they probably should be.