Man shoots up Gym in Penn. Killing 3 then himself. THIS is what was going through his mind.

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Soxafloppin

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All of that exercise...wasted.

No offence intended, why does this stuff allmost allways happen in america?
 

Gaderael

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Zand88 said:
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Too bad the coward shot himself.
.. Why do you bother posting?
Because I was stating my opinion that the man was a coward. He had serious issues, yes, but he knew that to the rest of society that killing those women was wrong. He stated so in the very first line of his journal when he stated, "Why do this?? To young girls?"

In his mind, it was a logical course of action. I've read his journal, the man thought he was perfect. He stated several times about how he was attractive, how he smelled good, and that he just could not understand why women did not want to be with him, and then said that thirty million women had rejected him. He could not accept that it was his fault that women wanted nothing to do with him.

As I said, he thought it fine to kill those women, knew that the rest of society would think it was wrong, and instead of facing justice or prosecution, or being told that he was wrong (as it seemed he issues with being wrong), he took the coward's way out and shot himself.
 

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coxafloppin said:
All of that exercise...wasted.

No offence intended, why does this stuff allmost allways happen in america?
Much easier access to firearms makes it easier for something like that to occur. That doesn't mean it couldn't happen anywhere else, a person determined to do something like this will find a way, regardless of the availability of resources.

While he deserves no sympathy for what he did to those women before his suicide, I can in a way, see where he's coming from.

I'm sort of in the same boat, generally ending up in a friendship position rather than a love interest, because I am rather shy and introvert.
It takes months before I trust someone enough to open up to a person, and most will have lost interest by then.
Smooth-talking and seduction aren't my thing, so I'll probably be alone for another 40-50 years (currently 28).
Not that I haven't had relationships, just not many (2) and neither involved sex.

The part I can't understand is the translation into hatred, a specific person can be hated, because of what they did to you, but an entire gender would be somewhat hard, there's bound to be someone that likes you for the person you are. It's that one hope that keeps me going atleast. =)
 

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He quite clearly stated that money was no issue.
Really if he wanted companionship that badly an escort would have been happy to have regular business with him.

I have never paid for those kind of services myself but I think the stigma surrounding it isn't fully justified. Just as the stigma surrounding anything related to mental health isn't deserved.
 

Soxafloppin

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Azhrarn-101 said:
coxafloppin said:
All of that exercise...wasted.

No offence intended, why does this stuff allmost allways happen in america?
Much easier access to firearms makes it easier for something like that to occur. That doesn't mean it couldn't happen anywhere else, a person determined to do something like this will find a way, regardless of the availability of resources.

While he deserves no sympathy for what he did to those women before his suicide, I can in a way, see where he's coming from.

I'm sort of in the same boat, generally ending up in a friendship position rather than a love interest, because I am rather shy and introvert.
It takes months before I trust someone enough to open up to a person, and most will have lost interest by then.
Smooth-talking and seduction aren't my thing, so I'll probably be alone for another 40-50 years (currently 28).
Not that I haven't had relationships, just not many (2) and neither involved sex.

The part I can't understand is the translation into hatred, a specific person can be hated, because of what they did to you, but an entire gender would be somewhat hard, there's bound to be someone that likes you for the person you are. It's that one hope that keeps me going atleast. =)
Just keep your chin up, unlike that guy.
 

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There are currently approx. 305 million people living in the us, and approx. 6 billion in the entire world.

I bet there are plenty of people that feel exactly like this guy does/did. The worst thing anyone can feel is the sting of loneliness in a crowded room.

Though I dont really see the misanthropic part of his life, misanthropes(me included) are not psychopaths and are not mentally unbalanced or mentally ill.

This guy was just lonely and porbably had a bad upbringing from reading the bits about his brother, he was a mentally unbalanced person who probably was socially awkward and so transferred his shortcomings onto society in general and society(women in particular) became an outlet for his feelings of being inadequate. Instead of it beign something wrong with him, it was society and women that had the problems not him. The amount of times he repeated his physical features showed how much he lacked the understanding to function in social settings.

overall, I would probably expect to see more of these types of violent outbursts/suicides start to happen. Especially in a society that pushes everyone to "be" a specific type of individual in order to have any kind of social standing, hell we have been seeing what this guy did in schools for years.
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
Gaderael said:
he took the coward's way out and shot himself.
Maybe if we stopped talking about suicide as a 'cowards way out' of things, more multiple homicides like this would instead be the lesser tragedy of a suicide.
I'm sorry, I had a good friend kill herself. I loved her, a lot of people did, but what she did was cowardly. Instead of facing up to all her stresses, and whatever was depressing her, or letting someone in, she killed herself. That is cowardly. She left so much misery to those she left behind. As much as I miss her, I still get a little angry at times when I think about it.

As for this guy, if he had just killed himself, I would have had sympathy for him. He got a raw deal, and there was never anyone around willing to help him through his problems. He spiraled and got progressively worse. But, the second he pointed those guns at those women, and fired, he lost my sympathy.
 

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dubious_wolf said:
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Did anyone ever think for a second that the reason women didn't want anything to do with him is because he was a weirdo? I have a friend who is a 26 year old virgin because of his attitude towards women. They don't like him because he's bitter and he's bitter because they don't like him. I don't relate to him in any way nor feel empathy, his lack of social life was clearly his own doing and because he didn't have the balls to change it he made others suffer for it. .
and we are talking about a "friend" of yours right? Jeez with friends like you who needs enemies?

also check your spelling dude, no one likes to see poor spelling/grammar cause you sat down and decided to rage type...

My two cents now, I see where the empathy for this guy comes from, but his actions unfortunately do not endear me toward him. the fact that 12 casualties were inflicted by a man who could have solicited a prostitute for the same amount of money as i would take to purchase guns, ammo, and possible time at a gun range is extremely sad.
So to put it plainly I think this whole situation that could have been remedied by legal prostitution.
But a society that looks at mental diseases with more emotion than just blind contempt would be helpful.
Maybe I'm an idiot but I don't see any misspelled words. And I've tried to help my friend, you've never seen how bitter and mean he is towards women who won't go out with him or give him the time of day. It's his own damn fault.
 

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He was unstable. Anything could have put him over the edge.

These kinds of things will always happend and it's nothing but sad.

Life will go on.
 

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Seems like all the guy wanted was a girlfriend. Funny how one thing can ruin a person's whole life.
He might have had false hopes to boot. Pinning all his hopes on one person to wash away his inner turmoil. When he wrote he had a date, I had a sinking feeling. He wanted the world for love and effection. Who knows how much more dangerous he would have been had he gotten it, and found it ripped from his hands. So even if he got what he wanted, I believe he'd discover it wouldn't have been enough, let alone be a solution.

What that guys SHOULD have done was get some help. Any help.
 

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ZahrDalsk said:
quiet_samurai said:
How the hell can anyone fell sorry for this psychotic loser? What about the victims? Did anyone ever think for a second that the reason women didn't want anything to do with him is because he was a weirdo? I have a friend who is a 26 year old virgin because of his attitude towards women. They don't like him because he's bitter and he's bitter because they don't like him. I don't relate to him in any way nor feel empathy, his lack of social life was clearly his own doing and because he didn't have the balls to change it he made others suffer for it. He should have just saved himself the trip and only killed himself, or gotten therapy.
See, you're what's called an asshole. And if someone like George Sodini gunned you down, I'd call it poetic justice.

(Incidentally, this man is what most of /r9k/ will be like in ten or twenty years, which would be a scary thought if shooting sprees weren't so entertaining to read about.)
First off, fuck you for justifying my very own murder. Second you don't know anything about me. I guess feeling sorry for a man who walks in and murders three women who had nothing to do with his plight, and injuring others is the right thing to do. God I'm such an asshole, not feeling sorry for a cowardly murderer. I'm sure if you were there you'd just run up and hug him, yeah that would have made it all better.
 

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Oh fuck that loser had a pathetic life. Nearly as pathetic as mine! (Joking, i actually live a truely blessed life!)
 

MiracleOfSound

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SenseOfTumour said:
Also, I don't believe its all about sex, althought of course that's part of it.

Sure us guys need release regularly, but we're quite capable of doing that alone.

What we really need tho, is the acceptance and human contact of a woman, I think there's pretty much nothing better than just laying in bed with one you love, knowing you're both fully content with each other, and even just a hug can be a big boost to someone who's feeling low.
Or even a smile. I'm glad someone recognises that it is not always 100% about getting laid with guys.

While a lot of us don't admit it, we need emotional support and love too.

This man sounds like he may have been schizophrenic or have extreme psychosis.

Both illnesses can give people extreme, irrational aggressive impulses. It sounded like he was in dire need of help and his family obviously didn't realise it.
 

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UGH!!! FUCKING COWARD!!!

i don't care how messed up you think your life is you have no right to try and take anyone else's. He kept moaning about how young women in their 20s and shit were never interested, but how many 20 y.o.'s want to date old men, regardless of how well presented they think they are, and on top of that the woman he killed were 46, 37, 49, no one anywhere near their twenties.

People like this really piss me off. If you wanna off yourself, go right ahead, just don't drag away the lives of perfectly happy people with you.