Man shoots up Gym in Penn. Killing 3 then himself. THIS is what was going through his mind.

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Mstrswrd

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WHile this is most definately a tragedy (the killing part), from a purely psychological standpoint, it's actually interesting to read and see, as bad as he was, how his mind slowly became even more... screwed up (for lack of a better term) as he got closer and closer to actually committing the murder's.
 

quiet_samurai

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crypt-creature said:
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crypt-creature said:
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Arsen said:
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How the hell can anyone fell sorry for this psychotic loser? What about the victims? Did anyone ever think for a second that the reason women didn't want anything to do with him is because he was a weirdo? I have a friend who is a 26 year old virgin because of his attitude towards women. They don't like him because he's bitter and he's bitter because they don't like him. I don't relate to him in any way nor feel empathy, his lack of social life was clearly his own doing and because he didn't have the balls to change it he made others suffer for it. He should have just saved himself the trip and only killed himself, or gotten therapy.
Here's my problem: Should certain individuals HAVE to succumb to the wrongdoings of society, change themselves completely, and basically become a completely different person who sacrifices their morals and beliefs...to appease and attain some vague sense of attraction which is such an overrated, exaggerated demand in today's world?

Most men that are virgin's in todays world are, in my experience, typically victims of the ignorance and demand in modern times. I seriously hold NOTHING against virgins due to this fact alone. The more morality you feel, the greater sense of reality you have, and the higher beauty you see above others is marred by the fact that you never bring yourself down to the level of the unworthy.
Did you ever think that maybe it's that one individual person who is the unworthy one? How is it societies fault for certain peoples shortcomings? There is no one standard in society when it comes to finding someone, and people that say there is are either ignorant or suffer from delusions. Finding a girlfriend or getting laid is not that hard to do, you just have to put in the effort and not be afraid of rejection and realize that it may take several tries. Trust me, if you stood out on the sidewalk and devoted an entire day to asking out every girl that walked by you, I guarantee one hundred percent that eventually one will say yes.
Yes, but people also have something called standards. It may be looks, personality, trust, whatever.
Societies standards are a little out of proportion right now, and people lie. A lot.
Society can, and does, eventually find a way to stress the wrong things in life. Like how looks are more important than personality, or how bigger breasts mean a better girlfriend, or how a guy that looks like X acts the way he dresses and is therefore going to be a better catch.
People don't want to get to know someone else before they decide if they want to date them, they want to date them now. They want instant gratification.

Yes, you can get laid and find a girlfriend. But guess what, it's getting harder for some people to find a committed relationship in which they feel secure.
The world should focus internally on each other and not just see what's on the outside, I totally agree with you. But that's not how it is. People shouldn't lie, rob, and murder but they do. And your confusing attraction with shallowness or unrealistic standards. Attraction is what makes or breaks your decision to want to date someone, and it happens instantly. Usually if a person does not want to be romantically involved with you from the get go they probably won't later on. That's how attraction works.
I'm not confusing attraction with shallowness, since I was implying that a lot of people are basing their "attraction" on their shallowness (or selfishness).
Example (a real example), a man dates a girl that, while he does find her good looking, he is doing so more because he is bored.
Interest in a person happens instantly, real attraction takes a lot longer than that.

But again, a person who doesn't want to be romantically involved with a person can still date them, that doesn't mean that they will stay with them. If it gets more serious than they care for, they leave. If they get bored with the person, they leave. That is quickly becoming a "normal" situation with people these days. A lot of people have unrealistic standards, young or old, and it's becoming more common.
My point was, people are letting their unrealistic desires blind-side their 'attraction' towards others more often than they probably should be.
You don't base you attraction on anything, it's just a natural element that you have absolutely no control of. You don't necessarily have to act on it, but that doesn't mean it's not there. If you could chose what you were attracted to you wouldn't have people that find jam covered feet sexy, or those that find sheep erotic, or even homosexuals for that matter. Attractions may change over time, yes, but not because you consciously chose too.

Your talking about emotion and attachment; you can develop a strong attachment to someone and very deep emotions, even if you don't necessarily find them appealing at first, but they are not the same as attraction.

If attraction took so long to develop then how can you explain when a person will date someone or sleep with someone when they know they obviously shouldn't? Why is it they say nice girls like bad guys, and they will be with a person that constantly makes them unhappy? Attraction will short out your brain and is such a powerful force that it can cause you to completely ignore your common sense and other various emotions.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
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Poor guy, i just feel sorry for him. Im sure this will end up in one of my psychiatry classes next semester.
You feel sorry for him? What about the women he murdered?

I understand him being despondent to the point of suicide, but the moment he chose to take another person's life, he lost all claim to sympathy.
I rather agree with this
 

Simriel

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Izzil said:
For the good of the world I must start dating as many lonely men as possible.

*dons cape* Let's do this boys!
Most guys on here need all the help they can get.
-Orgasmatron- said:
Seriously ladies, blow jobs save lives!
I should kill you where you stand
 

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Cliff_m85

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It wasn't just women turning him down. That didn't lead him to go on a killing spree completely, what added to that is a very telling quote....

"Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the penalty was ALREADY paid. People judge but that does not matter. I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them."


With that mentality mixed with severe depression and mental problems you can see why he went on a spree.
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
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But again, a person who doesn't want to be romantically involved with a person can still date them, that doesn't mean that they will stay with them. If it gets more serious than they care for, they leave. If they get bored with the person, they leave. That is quickly becoming a "normal" situation with people these days. A lot of people have unrealistic standards, young or old, and it's becoming more common.
I think it's more that people are realizing that 'hey I probably won't die as young as my parents so I might spend twice as long married as the people in any other generation of history so I better make sure this is going to last'.

I mean, when most people dropped dead of stuff like TB and ass cancer at 50, they could afford to be a little less choosy when it came to who they were going to spend the rest of their life with.
It feels like some are realizing that, while the number of those using it as an excuse to just sleep around to feed their own ego seem to be on the rise.
Some still just rush into things blindly, but that will always happen.
 

Simriel

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-Orgasmatron- said:
Simriel said:
then I shall use a complex system of pulleys
Real classy, suspend a defenceless paraplegic guy and then kill him.
I shall wear a waistcoat and a bowler hat. Any man wearing a waistcoat and a bowler hat is instantly classy.
 

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It shocks me how other animals have to give off a pheromone to find a mate, yet for us, it takes this whole long ass process that easily can fuck people up.
 

Sparrow

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What the fuck? How does having a crap life justify killing three innocent people?

Oh, and lets not forget "It's totally ok becuase I'll be in heaven". All this media frenzy that revolves around sex and being macho. I hope not everyone thinks they have to be like this. To be honest, sex is "meh" in my words. Call me old fashioned, but one night stands are a ticket to STD Land, calling off platforms I'm An Alcoholic, I Should Work Out and My Peeps Not Working Because Of All This Viagra.

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