Krion_Vark said:
Zio_IV said:
Krion_Vark said:
Zio_IV said:
I did 4 years in the Marines and you know what I found out in that span of time?
Marines are mostly scum. A good number of them are the exact opposite of the sort of people the GP (General Population) think would join up. Of course there are a few decent people here and there as well (as with any facet of society, really), but all things considered, the majority of people I met during my time in the corps were not the greatest.
I guess that's just my long-winded way of saying that I'm not surprised by this video. I've seen stuff just as bad in person, honestly.
My only question is what was your MOS.
I don't really think it matters, does it? The opinions I've stated came from my experience with all the different jobs in the corps, from admin to infantry, and (almost) everything in between.
Besides, with the way you ask your question, you give off the impression of someone who is still in the corps and maybe wants to find the people I'm talking about so you can give them a negative counseling or whatever. I'm not saying that's your intention, but that's the way you're coming off.
Actually no. My brother was in the Corp but got out this past July. My friends exboyfriend is still in the corp. The people my brother met are all good/decent people while the people my friends exboyfriend knows are all kind of douchebags. The difference there is that my brother worked on vehicles while my friends exboyfriend is an infantryman. I was just wondering if it had to do with your MOS or maybe its just the group that was around you all the time.
Alright, fair enough, no ill will intended. The only reason I made that accusation is because most higher-ups would relish the chance to cause a scandal and generally make their subordinate's lives worse, and they do use the internet to look for potential cases and such. I've seen more than enough of said cases that I've become slightly paranoid about stuff like that (not necessarily without good reason, though). But hey, that's another story not related to this topic.
In any case, to answer your question, I was in logistics, 0481 specifically. I worked along plenty of motor T and mechanics because of it. A few of them were pretty decent people. You are right in thinking that those in that line of work (fixing vehicles and whatnot) are somewhat relaxed. They certainly are in comparison to a lot of other jobs. Infantry, on the other hand, is a very strange mixed bag. Some are nice, most are dicks, but all are missing a screw or two. I personally attribute that to the job, though. Not the fighting part, however, most grunts are actually okay with all that. No, the thing that makes grunts a little screwy is all the stupid ridiculous training they have to do when they're NOT fighting. I mean hell, I've had rough times in the corps, like a 9-month period where I was ganged up on and beaten every week just for being the new guy, but grunts? They probably have it worse overall.
The thing that the public doesn't see is that most Marines hate their job and want to get out. This is true of all jobs, and all ranks (it just means it took them longer to realise it) but the reason for this is not because of fighting, like a lot of people I've talked to about this have thought. No, it's because the daily life of a marine sucks. I spent 4 years in there, did two deployments during that time frame, and the only marketable skill any of us practised on a daily basis were janitorial skills. Rest assured, when you join the Marine Corps, even if you are infantry, you will hold a broom more than you ever hold a gun. And when you're not training, you do nothing. You don't get to go home if there's nothing to. You get to stay at work and twiddle your thumbs for the whole 10-14 hours you spend at your workplace. And since the whole "marine" thing is to always be doing something, this causes higher-ups to create meaningless tasks for the workforce to carry out for no reason other than "Well, we can't just send you home, can we?" Most of the time they will have you do the opposite of something you had just finished doing eg. taking apart a vehicle after just having finished putting it together at the same person's request.
That is how most days play out in the corps, for ALL jobs (except maybe admin). It causes marines to become disgruntled and overall creates rifts in boss-subordinate relations, resulting in reduced motivation and productivity. This wouldn't be so much of a problem, if it weren't a corps-wide phenomenon. Everywhere you go, from Pendleton to Okinawa, you hear the same story from every marine you come across. It's also part of the reason why even some of the nicer marines turn into dicks over time (like me).
Wow, I ended up saying way more than I thought I would.
TL;DR: Most marines are jerkwads because the job itself freaking sucks.
