Paragon Fury said:
lacktheknack said:
hiks89 said:
lacktheknack said:
hiks89 said:
Project_Omega said:
Exorcism is real, but it can be hard from distincting a demonic possession from mental illness sometimes. We are only human after all.
yea...no its not real sorry
Because you've never seen one, right?
no because the idea of a demon possessing someones body is completely RETARDED also why do demons only posses people that live in a family THAT BELIEVES IN DEMONS
You don't believe it, thus it's retarded? It's a pretty longstanding belief that's extremely widespread (often appearing simultaneously out of places that had no contact without the help of the other), plus, many people claim to have witnessed possession/exorcism. Clearly they're ALL lying/mistaken, because that would interfere with your precious preconceptions. Also, who says they only affect families who believe? Maybe previous skeptics believe in demons because family members get possessed.
"But it doesn't happen in Western society!"
Actually, it sometimes does. See: Ouija board mishaps, Bloody Mary mishaps, demonic summonings gone horribly right, non-demonic summonings gone horribly wrong, etc. You know, stuff you refuse to believe happens. Not wide-spread enough for you? Well, why would demonic forces need to show their wrath when a giant wave of anti-theism, partly caused by a lack of demonic action, is doing a better number on religion than they ever could?
LegendaryGamer0 said:
Should I just start a dedicated exorcism thread? XD
Meh, it's what this thread has already turned into.
Its not believed because it is not
fucking real.
Show beyond the shadow of a doubt a case of supposed "possession" that can not be explained by a severe mental or biological disturbance (or some combination thereof) or some other "demon"-related event that wasn't spirited away before objective scientists could get their hands on it for study.
Its not the anti-theists or the supposed lack of "activity" doing away with the belief - its the crushing lack of any evidence or proof that these things actually occur and aren't just an elaborate hoax or trick.
And even if demons do exist I'm sure these guys will have it covered.
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I can't provide you any proof, I'm some random guy on the internet. Anything I post will be sloughed off as a hoax.
I've read a few books (I've forgotten which ones, D
that indicate that middle-eastern Africa is a hotbed for demonic activity, but I can't prove this as I've never been to Africa (and don't wish to go).
I have a friend who messed with an Ouija board at a party and woke up the next day feeling like she hadn't slept at all, and the friend she was sleeping in the house with said she had woken up to see my friend leering down at her with her eyes rolled back in her head, and when she screamed, my friend simply left. Of course, you won't believe this either.
You can read my half-convo above with Rin Little, where she mentions a "shell" quality about the person and an enormous burst of strength (you know, classic possession signs), as well as a SUCCESSFUL exorcism thereof, but of course, that's pure unadulterated BS, because you didn't see it yourself.
What do you want me to do, break into your house with an Ouija board, some tarot cards and a dead goat?
There's a line between skepticism and fanatical denial, and a significant percentage (the lion's share, really) of the Escapist's users solidly hit the "fanatical denial" section. You doubt the stories? Fine. You think they're all lies? Close minded, but OK then. You shove your opinion that "IT'S NOT FUCKING REAL" at me, and/or think all believers of the phenomena are inherently dumber? Good job, you're far more fanatical than they'll ever be.
