Metal Gear Solid 4 On 360?

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MultiPurposeBlue

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never will happen because sony and kojima Productions own the rights "as well as Nintendo aka BRAWL, so don't expect to see MGS4 with a 360 logo on it any time soon.
p.s., even if did it would not fit on a single disk because it takes up the whole blue ray "50 gigs"
 

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greygelgoog said:
If Kojima did manage to fill 50 gigs, expect 32 hours of cutscenes in 40 minute blocks.
In any case, I'd really like there to be a port. But it isn't going to happen and I'm not shelling out the cash for a PS3. MGS4 isn't coming to the 360, but somehow I'll make it through life. Somehow.





20 gigs is apparently audio but don't quote me on it and if u want to play MGS4 mooch off your friends, thats how i beat Halo3 with no 360
 

Lazy Lemon

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kojima said that he wasn't going to release it on 360 or wii because he would rather design a game specifically for those consoles so they are better suited for the audience. and even if the sales are poor, i'd imagine sony would pay a lot of money to keep it exclusive because it would be a huge blow to ps3 if it went multi platform. personaly i'd be really pissed off if it did go to 360 because if i knew it was going to i would have got a 360 rather than ps3 and saved myself £100. and i've just realised that i'm effectively paying £140 to play 1 game. it better be good!
 

tiredinnuendo

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Fire Daemon said:
I think I speak for the Escapist when I say that we have had enough of your blatant console insults. This is a place for intelligent conversations with a theme of videogames, not for flinging waste at your hated companies. If you want to talk about the 360 please make it constructive and less "fanboylike"

If you want to insult a pile of wire and plastic why can't you do that whithout insulting those that bought that pile of plastic and wire.
Actually, it seems to be only you who is feeling this. Previously I have been praised for my fair and balanced appraisal of all three consoles, and the combined Issues. It might just be you affecting me, making me get defensive.
It's not just him. Disliking the 360 is fine. Taking humorous potshots at it ever now and again is okay. For the last week though, most of your posts that I recall reading have had blatant Sony fanboy written in the liner notes, and this isn't the place for that type of thing.

- J
 

PedroSteckecilo

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Kojima always states a loyalty to his "Long term" fan base rather than any specific system. He asumes that most fans of MGS, which previously appeared on Sony Systems primarily, will keep buying Sony Systems, if for no other reason than they expect Metal Gear Games to keep coming out on them. If he were going to change systems my guess is he would tell his "loyal fan base" from the get go, at least, that's what he claims he would do.

Also, the 360 isn't doing so great in Japan, still, and the triumph of Blu-Ray over HD has increased PS3 sales immensely. That and the PS3/MGS4 Bundle is almost a garaunteed system seller. A 360 Version at this point is extremely unlikely, the best 360 fans will get is a "MGS2 Substance" style port about a year or two later.
 

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I imagine that MGS4 staying console exclusive will sell some more PS3's to offset the fact that it is playing third fiddle in the console race. However, I call bullshit on Blu-Ray discs being too small. Most of it is probably going to be devoted to interminable Codec conversations and self-indulgent cinematics. I love the Metal Gear Solid series, but I think that Kojima might be getting a bit too big for his britches.

@Dingo - I second tiredinnuendo in saying that you need to chill with the 360 bashing. Owning a PS3 doesn't make you better than anyone else. Making a jab from time to time is cool, but these constant putdowns are getting old.
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
I have never seen my Ps3 loading for more than 5 seconds, on Assasins Creed, Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, and The Orange Box.
I'm sorry, but what you say isn't true for at least one of those titles.

When I was working at SCEE last year, one night it was my job to measure the loading times of Heavenly Sword (as they had to be under 30 seconds). Some of the load times barely made it under that time, especially when choosing to play a different chapter.

Although installing data will help with load times, it doesn't make them load THAT fast, Warhawk being a great example of this, running completely off the HDD (even the disc version, which requires the disc to be inserted on boot-up as an anti-piracy feature).

A possible reason that Kojima is claiming that MGS4 takes up a silly amount of disc space is that due to BluRay being prolifically slow, some developers repeat the same game data in different parts of the disc so the laser doesn't have to move as much (as doing so would makes load times even slower).
 

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mccormick said:
the way ps3 is going with the low sales it might. assasins creed and some others were only ment to be ps3 releases but they had such low scales. so the mgs4 crew might think for a second and release it on xbox.
You mean these low sales? [http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9946&Itemid=2] Still, thier nothing compared to how the Wii is doing but they certianly have overtaken the 360. As for the "mgs4 crew" thinking about releasing it on the 360; it is not going to happen as it simply isnt possible.
 

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YanniXenobia said:
A possible reason that Kojima is claiming that MGS4 takes up a silly amount of disc space is that due to BluRay being prolifically slow, some developers repeat the same game data in different parts of the disc so the laser doesn't have to move as much (as doing so would makes load times even slower).
Off-topic, but I have to say how interesting that was. Seriously, no sarcasm (it can be hard to tell online) that's a really interesting fact.

- J
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Does anyone here really believe that MGS4 has over four times the amount of data of Crysis, cutscenes and audio whatever included?
Yes.

I mean, thier not going to put 50gb of data onto the disc just for the sheer sake of it. Even if some of the data is redundent it will only be a few gigabytes. There is no way in hell they are going squeeze 50GB into an 8GB DVD. They had enough trouble compressing Assassins Creed onto a DVD and that was only somthing like 10 or 11 GB.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Mojozing said:
j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Does anyone here really believe that MGS4 has over four times the amount of data of Crysis, cutscenes and audio whatever included?
Yes.

I mean, thier not going to put 50gb of data on the disc just for the sheer sake of it. Even if some of the data is redundent it will only be a few gigabytes. There is no way in hell they are going squeeze 50GB into an 8GB DVD. They had enough trouble compressing Assassins Creed onto a DVD and that was only somthing like 10 or 11 GB.
This isn't about fitting MGS on a 360 disc. I don't give two sh*ts whether or not the damn game comes out on Xbox.

The point is, do you really believe the hyperbole coming out for this game? I ask you again, 50 gigs? Do you not maybe think perhaps they said that just to drum up extra interest in the game? Do you not think, even with gaming tech where it currently is, it sounds a bit ridiculous to be talking about 50 gigabyte games?
With any other game (for the moment at least) i think i'd agree with you. However, this is MGS4 we're talking about, probably the most antisapated exclusive for the PS3. Sony have probably been developing this for ages putting as much money/time/effort as they possibly can into making as this will be thier first time to demonstrate what the machine is really capible of.

Infact, the game HAS to sell at least a million copies on release day just to recover the costs of making it.
 

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I may be wrong but i'm getting this major feeling that Indigo is infact a PS3 fanboy. Because of this, I think of his opinion as bias and as such invalid. To answer your question, it is quite unlikely that Konami will introduce MGS4 to the 360, unless the 360 changes over to Bluray or having more than one disk for a game suddenly becomes this century's height of fashion. Also, there will be no MGS5. The guy who makes it has already said there won't be, cleary made out when he said "This will be the last game of the series".
 

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Mojozing said:
j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Mojozing said:
j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Does anyone here really believe that MGS4 has over four times the amount of data of Crysis, cutscenes and audio whatever included?
Yes.

I mean, thier not going to put 50gb of data on the disc just for the sheer sake of it. Even if some of the data is redundent it will only be a few gigabytes. There is no way in hell they are going squeeze 50GB into an 8GB DVD. They had enough trouble compressing Assassins Creed onto a DVD and that was only somthing like 10 or 11 GB.
This isn't about fitting MGS on a 360 disc. I don't give two sh*ts whether or not the damn game comes out on Xbox.

The point is, do you really believe the hyperbole coming out for this game? I ask you again, 50 gigs? Do you not maybe think perhaps they said that just to drum up extra interest in the game? Do you not think, even with gaming tech where it currently is, it sounds a bit ridiculous to be talking about 50 gigabyte games?
With any other game (for the moment at least) i think i'd agree with you. However, this is MGS5 we're talking about, probably the most antisapated exclusive for the PS3. Sony have probably been developing this for ages putting as much money/time/effort as they possibly can into making as this will be thier first time to demonstrate what the machine is really capible of.

Infact, the game HAS to sell at least a million copies on release day just to recover the costs of making it.
Okay.Fair Enough.

Just answer one question.Can you think of a non-JRPG game(Blue Dragon - facepalm) that took up more than 20GB?
 

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Lets be fair... Metal Gear Solid has never really been able to live up to the hype prior to release. I wont lie, MGS4 'looks' impressive but it always does and in my mind it always seems to be missing something that the original had. I hope MGS4 DOESNT come to 360... I mean why should it? Firstly, Sony should have their moment in the sun and secondly think of the countless successes that Microsoft has had (i.e. Halo 3) and then think about all the shit that runs exclusively on the PS3. Also, I am really beginning to hate these never ending sequels (I'm looking at you GTA and MGS) but at least GTA seems to be TRYING something new whereas MGS just... doesn't. They are not classics that will live forever and never die (despite how much we might want them to sometimes) like Sonic the Smeghog and Mario the gay plumber (still dont understand whats so super about him). HATE MGS AND COULDNT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT NUMBER 4!!!
 

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JakubK666 said:
Mojozing said:
j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Mojozing said:
j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Does anyone here really believe that MGS4 has over four times the amount of data of Crysis, cutscenes and audio whatever included?
Yes.

I mean, thier not going to put 50gb of data on the disc just for the sheer sake of it. Even if some of the data is redundent it will only be a few gigabytes. There is no way in hell they are going squeeze 50GB into an 8GB DVD. They had enough trouble compressing Assassins Creed onto a DVD and that was only somthing like 10 or 11 GB.
This isn't about fitting MGS on a 360 disc. I don't give two sh*ts whether or not the damn game comes out on Xbox.

The point is, do you really believe the hyperbole coming out for this game? I ask you again, 50 gigs? Do you not maybe think perhaps they said that just to drum up extra interest in the game? Do you not think, even with gaming tech where it currently is, it sounds a bit ridiculous to be talking about 50 gigabyte games?
With any other game (for the moment at least) i think i'd agree with you. However, this is MGS5 we're talking about, probably the most antisapated exclusive for the PS3. Sony have probably been developing this for ages putting as much money/time/effort as they possibly can into making as this will be thier first time to demonstrate what the machine is really capible of.

Infact, the game HAS to sell at least a million copies on release day just to recover the costs of making it.
Okay.Fair Enough.

Just answer one question.Can you think of a non-JRPG game(Blue Dragon - facepalm) that took up more than 20GB?
No I cant, but I dont know anything about how much disc space any other games require, this is just what i'v heard/read about MGS4.

I think it will however be a long time before another game comes along that will take up a whole Blu-Ray disc.