Metal is starting to leave my heart

[Wilko316]

I'd much rather have people listening to Techno than being fans of Slipknot.
Testament, Megadeth, Slayer, Exodus, Venom, Anthrax, Death, Sepultura, Bathory, Morbid Angel and Cannibal Corpse are fucking Metal.
Seriously though, so what? I love Metal, but I still listen to alot of Gorillaz and The Prodigy from time to time.

 

[Nadlice]

Metal is not dying at all. It's mutating and receding from the mainstream. I find this to be a fantastic solution to the outcrop of crappy kindof metal bands the 2000's spawned. This does IMO include Slipknot to some degree.

Black metal seems to be maturing as a subgenre, with a large number of fantastic fusions recently popping up.
Tech death is.... alive... and awesome. If only Necrophagist would release their damn third album.....

TL;DR: Metal is dying in the mainstream as a method of purging itself from commercial influences. Or something like that.

EDIT: Oh right, two part question. I was a listen-only-to-metal-and-mutations-of-it kinda guy a couple years ago, and since then I've done my best to expand into other genres. I suppose most notably would be punk, with Bomb the Music Industry being, IMO, the greatest band ever. It's nice to not pay much attention to the groupings of what you listen to, though, and to try to focus on the individual artists and groups that you are fond of.

I have to wonder... Why the hate against Slipknot? They are good!

Though they do sound quite different from any other popular metal bands the majority of metalheads I've talked to about them dislike the addition of a second drum kit and a turntable. Also many find the songs themselves to be.. well.... dull and soft when compared with death/black metal.

There is the elitist factor, wherin many don't like Slipknot because they are afraid for being mistaked for angsty 13 year olds. You know, that one probably makes up for a lot of it. Metalheads are kindof dicks like that.

 

[Dys]

I have to wonder... Why the hate against Slipknot? They are good!

New age Rap metal. As that kind of music became more popular, it largely signaled the end of thrash metal (metallica, testament). As such, all the down the line metal elitists hate that kind of music, as slipknot is one of the more popular examples of it, it follows that they hate it.

OT: My music tastes vary wildly. I typically listen to a lot of metal (especially pantera, metallica and iron maiden), however I go through cycles. Sometimes I might go through a monthlong obsession with daft punk, or the cat empire, or hilltop hoods. I do, and always have, loved dire straights and the living end. It's normal to like different kinds of music (though I couldn't listen to the techno thing in the OP, I tend to pretty consistently dislike that kind of music).

Anthrax have been superb ever since they started (And have always been better than Metallica)

As good as Anthrax are, they aren't as consistent as Metallica. I mean, sure when you have that much content your bound to have some bad stuff (and Anthrax at their worst are far, far better than Metallica at their worst) but it's a pretty big, and obviously contentious claim to say that Anthrax have always been better than Metallica (not that I agree with the metal is dying claim in any way, didn't metallica just release a new album and finish touring not long ago? Lamb of god anyone? Kreator released hordes of chaos this time last year....hardly a dying genre).

 

[The_Graff]

try some alestorm or disturbed.

 

[jaketheripper]

I was a "hate everything that's not metal" kinda guy when I was younger but Metal has started to get blasted away from me by the loud beats of Techno, Drum n' Bass etc.

One of my favorite songs last year was

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and now it's

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And for added discussion value I'll ask you how have you're taste of music evolved the last year/years?

sorry. im twitching because i want to rage at the slipknot sucks people they are full of fail. but idk ivealways liked metal, it just fluxuates, sometimes i want slayer, sometimes i want disturbed, sometimes devildriver or all shall peroish. rage/BUT I ALWAYS LIKE SLIPKNOT BECAUSE THEY ARE AN AMAZING F###### BAND!/rage

 

[Lem0nade Inlay]

Ahhh, you're like me.
I used to love SlipKnot, I mean I still think they're okay, but they used to be my favourite metal band.

I was into all sorts of metal, from stuff like Blink182 (who are mild pop-rock) all the way to Screamo.

However around about the start of this year I got sick of it, and started listening to more electronic music.

In fact I rediscovered Gorillaz, who I personally think are amazing, as they combine a huge amount of different styles into their music, from dance to hiphop, technopunk to acoustic.

I also got really into rave (not like nn-tss-nn-tss beats like Daftpunk), but more happy hardcore stuff, like Nightcore.

Example:



My music tastes will probably change again, but I always look forward to discovering new stuff!

 

[Ponce Master-General]

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions because you posted a slipknot song as one of your ex favorites, but it could be because you weren't listening to many good metal bands.

HERESY!

What is good metal then?

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These are just a couple of songs, I can't be arsed to add more.

 

[jaketheripper]

see, you liked slipknot and this is why you are starting to dislike metal cause that is shit music with little to no talent.

I suggest looking to the underground metal scene for good metal not mainstream Mtv2 or Mtv3 shit

your an idiot.

OT: go listen to parasitic by psyclon nine, its metal and techno mixed, lost a special somethin to that song too ;D

 

[EmzOLV]

My musical progression has been quite drastic for me, but then again, I guess it all consists of the same musical instruments:

As a listener: I first got into music with the punk pop songs, Lit, Blink 182, etc. I then moved on to more of the emo/pop punk, with a mix of Saves the Day, New Found Glory, Fenix TX, Starting Line, etc. I then moved into more metal, with Raging Speedhorn, Killswitch Engage, Beecher, etc. Then I went to rock and rediscovered (for the first time for me) AC/DC, Aerosmith, Rolling Stones, Pearl Jam etc.

Now I'm stuck as a huge mash up of that!

As a bass player: It's always been motown for me. Always. It's just the best stuff to play and the best stuff to be inspired by. And maybe a little bit of jazz thrown in for good measure

 

[JenSeven]

Anthrax have been superb ever since they started (And have always been better than Metallica)

As good as Anthrax are, they aren't as consistent as Metallica. I mean, sure when you have that much content your bound to have some bad stuff (and Anthrax at their worst are far, far better than Metallica at their worst) but it's a pretty big, and obviously contentious claim to say that Anthrax have always been better than Metallica (not that I agree with the metal is dying claim in any way, didn't metallica just release a new album and finish touring not long ago? Lamb of god anyone? Kreator released hordes of chaos this time last year....hardly a dying genre).

I wonder what you mean by consistent with Metallica. They have been pure crap for about 20 years and the only reason why they get recognition is because they made several decent songs a long time ago, as they are keen to remember us since they play those songs on almost every concert.
So I admit that they are consistent in the amount of crap they produce, and they are way more consistent than Helloween who almost always have the Crap Album - Good Album - Crap Album thing going on. Although in Helloween's case this also seems the include how crappy the album is, since Unchained was a hideous pile of sludge and 7 Sinners is a beast of an album.

 

[jantunen]

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions because you posted a slipknot song as one of your ex favorites, but it could be because you weren't listening to many good metal bands.

HERESY!

What is good metal then?

Look up finnish and swedish melodic death metal. E.g. In Flames, At The Gates, Diablo, Insomnium etc.

 

[Nickolai77]

Metal is as strong as ever, but what i think is happening is that the metal genre branching out into lots of subgenres, moving on from the classics. This has to happen otherwise the genre as a whole will stagnate. The fact that metal is evolving and diversifying is a good thing and shows the genre is very much alive.

Here are a few examples:

 

[jaketheripper]

My theory? Metal is dying. Look at the classics, Metallica, Maiden, Priest. They just don't make music like that anymore.

im sorry i believe you forgot megadeth. -twitch- i hate metallica, kirk only plays scales for the solos. its full of fail.

But honestly, you people with the "hipster mentality" of if its mainstream its bad need to stfu. raining blood made slayer extreemly popular. to mainstream status. do they suck? no so stfu. slipknot is great, so is (most) of the music your sayin.

 

[Something Amyss]

I have to wonder... Why the hate against Slipknot? They are good!

No they're not. Not by a long shot.

 

[Korenith]

I have to wonder... Why the hate against Slipknot? They are good!

Because they are the poster band for an entire generation of musically-talentless bandwagon-jumping-on Nu metal bands that popped up roughly ten years ago. On their own merits they are reasonably solid but because they were the band everybody was obsessed with for a while they sort of represent all the shit that came at the same time. Plus the image got them a rep as posers which confuses me considering all the corpse paint rubbish in Black Metal :S

But as far as losing touch with metal I think you're simply starting to understand your likes and dislikes better now. I mean, stuff I used to listen to sounds like shite to me now but it's only because what I've found since is much better. And I'm crazy into my metal.

 

[smithy_2045]

Slipknot are good, fuck the haters.

 

[Icarion (aka Stockholm)]

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions because you posted a slipknot song as one of your ex favorites, but it could be because you weren't listening to many good metal bands.

HERESY!

What is good metal then?

MUSHROOMHEAD! Just kidding, couldn't help myself. Trivium is definetly good metal. And I'd say Five Finger Death Punch is pretty damn good.

OT:Yeah, its happened/happening to me. I slowly begining to become more tolerant of pop, and I'm getting into more alernative stuff. But I never hated anything that wasn't metal.

EDIT:Just to clarify, I kinda like Slipknot, just not as much as other bands. They're OK metal in my book.

 

[Korenith]

My theory? Metal is dying. Look at the classics, Metallica, Maiden, Priest. They just don't make music like that anymore.

im sorry i believe you forgot megadeth. -twitch- i hate metallica, kirk only plays scales for the solos. its full of fail.

But honestly, you people with the "hipster mentality" of if its mainstream its bad need to stfu. raining blood made slayer extreemly popular. to mainstream status. do they suck? no so stfu. slipknot is great, so is (most) of the music your sayin.

Erm... what!? There are plenty of bands with that sort of quality appearing in the metal genre all the time. Plus there are hundreds of great bands still going strong like Nevermore, Opeth, Iced Earth, Blind Guardian etc. And Megadeth's last album was great so dying? Me thinks not. I agree with jaketheripper, don't talk about something you seem to have very little grasp of.

 

[JenSeven]

My theory? Metal is dying. Look at the classics, Metallica, Maiden, Priest. They just don't make music like that anymore.

im sorry i believe you forgot megadeth. -twitch- i hate metallica, kirk only plays scales for the solos. its full of fail.

But honestly, you people with the "hipster mentality" of if its mainstream its bad need to stfu. raining blood made slayer extreemly popular. to mainstream status. do they suck? no so stfu. slipknot is great, so is (most) of the music your sayin.

Problem I have with MegaDeth, Mustaine can't sing.
It's not that he sings off tune or something, he just can't sing.
Problem I have with Slayer, heard one album, heard them all.
They usually sing about hating the bible or other anti-religious themes, like nailing a bible to a nun, or nailing a nun to a bible and setting it on fire.

Yeah, both Megadeth and Slayer have made several good songs, but neither band really shines in my opinion.

For good songwriting I usually look to Annihilator, who have a good variety in songs and really solid writing in both the music and the lyrics. Armored Saint also has that going for it, and John Bush has a seriously good voice to go with that.