Metroid represents everything wrong about our treatment of the enviornment.
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Well just because an argument is insane doesn't mean the person making it can't be serious. I suppose there's no way of knowing if he was serious or not. I'm just going to go with my gut and assume he was.Jim Grim said:
Pretty impressive OP; you did a wonderful job of making your point. Though I find it very amusing to see the responses of people who read the title and immediately let out a reply...tl;dr tactics have failed you, gentlemen.
I'd say it's omit instead of emit. Who doesn't read topics? 
Left 4 Dead is about Reverse Sexism
Three of the survivors? Male. Almost all of the Infected? Male. Just Women creating Androphobic fantasies of men killing each other over the lone females, who get to choose among them.
Peggle is about The Royal Family
Even more obvious one this. The Unicorn represents Princess Diana, the Rabbit Prince Charles and the Queen? That Pumpkin Head. You can't see it or you don't want to see it? Peggle KNIGHTS?
Left 4 Dead is about Reverse Sexism
Three of the survivors? Male. Almost all of the Infected? Male. Just Women creating Androphobic fantasies of men killing each other over the lone females, who get to choose among them.
Peggle is about The Royal Family
Even more obvious one this. The Unicorn represents Princess Diana, the Rabbit Prince Charles and the Queen? That Pumpkin Head. You can't see it or you don't want to see it? Peggle KNIGHTS?
Actually that's just a result of me mixing up my vocabulary because I'm a shitty writer. Proofreading doesn't help much when you're a moron and can't see your mistakes in the first placeThe_root_of_all_evil said:I'd say it's omit instead of emit. Who doesn't read topics?
No offense, but why post a complicated (and actually rather true, despite the specific examples of the opposite) opinion on something and then start tearing your own argument to shreds?
Of course, I'm more of a... what might one call it?... archaology-...sopher? Anyway, I love things that are impossibly ancient that might tell more about those who came before. Well, mostly in fiction. Anyway, in this example, Samus is totally mad. She's insane. She'll destroy irreplacable texts and statues of the people whose blood is in her veins, often with no reason other than to kill a foe she was already killing just fine all on her own with conventional bombs and missiles (which again, she will happily fire in enclosed ancient rooms).
Of course, I'm more of a... what might one call it?... archaology-...sopher? Anyway, I love things that are impossibly ancient that might tell more about those who came before. Well, mostly in fiction. Anyway, in this example, Samus is totally mad. She's insane. She'll destroy irreplacable texts and statues of the people whose blood is in her veins, often with no reason other than to kill a foe she was already killing just fine all on her own with conventional bombs and missiles (which again, she will happily fire in enclosed ancient rooms).
Because I was trying to show how easily one can over-analyze something and make a convincing argument surrounding some hidden meaning that doesn't actually exist. Mainly by ignoring the details that would cause this argument to fall apart. I suppose I could have said all this without making that phony analysis, but I was hoping it would help to demonstrate my point. Maybe not, upon reflection.PrototypeC said:
Dude, it's the Internet. Personally I feel it's a bit naive to post this much written word online and expect people to read every single bit. This is a forum; it is to opinions what hookers are to sailors. My recommendation is to put your intention at the beginning if you want people to get what you are doing.Internet Kraken said:
Otherwise, keep putting at the end and pretending to be smarter or making a point no one is really going to get behind (that people don't read it all).
I don't expect people to read the whole thing. However, I do expect that if you're going to make a reply, you would read the whole thing. If someone doesn't feel like reading a long post, that's perfectly understandable. What I don't understand is why someone would bother responding if they don;t even want to read the entire post.Sanctus Hospes said:
And I'm not pretending to be smarter than anyone. If you got that impression, I apologize. Most people around my age on this site are probably smarter than me anyways.
And that's exactly the reason Adam tries to limit your weapons in Other M.
Samus is a bloody walking tank of destruction and death.
While I'm not going to write several paragraphs...
Eternal Darkness is telling us that we should never try and read books of our own, because they are evil. And we should just listen to what the wise priests have to say. Because only they can read from the holy book. And we as simple peasant people shouldn't even bother with books, oh so vile.
Samus is a bloody walking tank of destruction and death.
While I'm not going to write several paragraphs...
Eternal Darkness is telling us that we should never try and read books of our own, because they are evil. And we should just listen to what the wise priests have to say. Because only they can read from the holy book. And we as simple peasant people shouldn't even bother with books, oh so vile.
Excellent thread IK, and as someone who loves to overanalyze things for fun I went to work as soon as I saw the topic.
I've come up with one about everyone's [including mine] crack Minecraft. This game is a Darwinist game because it shows humanity evolving to survive the hostile wasteland that you have been placed in. Everytime you die your kin, aka your respawn, has learned something new about the world and you strive to bring it under control. You work during the day clearing forests and stripmining acres of land that various wildlife inhabits.
Why does your character do this? To survive and adapt to make him the greatest hunter of them all. Soon you have armour and a fortress, traps and barricades to hold off your enemies as you strike them down, taking what you want and need and converting it into your own little empire. Soon though this isn't enough to just have your basic necessities, you want conviences, buildings you create because you can, thus the wastefullness of humanity comes to full power as people create models, statues, fortresses with no purpose but to show that they are the true master of their destinies.
Just a short little blob I had fun with; thanks again for a fun topic to work with.
I've come up with one about everyone's [including mine] crack Minecraft. This game is a Darwinist game because it shows humanity evolving to survive the hostile wasteland that you have been placed in. Everytime you die your kin, aka your respawn, has learned something new about the world and you strive to bring it under control. You work during the day clearing forests and stripmining acres of land that various wildlife inhabits.
Why does your character do this? To survive and adapt to make him the greatest hunter of them all. Soon you have armour and a fortress, traps and barricades to hold off your enemies as you strike them down, taking what you want and need and converting it into your own little empire. Soon though this isn't enough to just have your basic necessities, you want conviences, buildings you create because you can, thus the wastefullness of humanity comes to full power as people create models, statues, fortresses with no purpose but to show that they are the true master of their destinies.
Just a short little blob I had fun with; thanks again for a fun topic to work with.
This over anaylizing thing has got to be an art cause I just don't have what it takes to interpret something like that just from watching it or reading or playing it as the case may be.
When I play metroid I just focus on not freaking out over the giant alien boss that suddenly appears when you are in the area(has not played a metriod game in a decade).
When I play metroid I just focus on not freaking out over the giant alien boss that suddenly appears when you are in the area(has not played a metriod game in a decade).
No one complains when Moviebob over analyzes the subtext of the Twilight series. But then he decides to give Halo that treatment and there's a thread that seems entirely unrelated that decides to take a stab at him near the end. You have to keep in mind that to someone who's not into Halo there's not a very big difference to make dissing one fine but the other heresy.
I haven't read the entire thread, but I think the "overanalyzation" in OP's post is actually pretty close to spot on. While the consequences of Samus' speciesism becomes a plot point at times, she never actually learns. Metroid 2 really *did assume* that it was a good idea to kill an entire species. The X virus from Metroid Fusion was a tacked on retcanon.
Wow, uh, I actually took your argument seriously before I reached the end. [ I've never played the Metroid series before. OH WOE IS ME. ]
But nonetheless, you are right -- omission of details will cause those who know their stuff to completely firebomb your argument, no matter how convincing it may be.
But nonetheless, you are right -- omission of details will cause those who know their stuff to completely firebomb your argument, no matter how convincing it may be.
I think Movie Bob's opinion on Twilight was also pretty ridiculous. Yes, it is a shitty book, but I highly doubt people are becoming dumber just by reading it. It really seems like a ridiculous argument to me. Just because a book might indirectly promote one mindset does not mean everyone who reads it will blindly fall into said mindset. to me that seems about as likely as violent videogame encouraging people to be murderers.Cheesepower5 said: