MGS4 and Fallout 3 Quotes

[Tharwen]

You can't say humanity don't advance; for in every war, they kill you in a new way.

COD 2 FTW

 

[Neotericity]

"OBSTRUCTION DETECTED. COMPOSITION: TITANIUM ALLOY SUPPLEMENTED BY PHOTONIC RESONANCE BARRIER. PROBABILITY OF MISSION HINDRANCE... ZERO PERCENT!!"
- Liberty Prime

 

[the protaginist]

" Mah boys are out huntin' 'Lurks!"

-Grandma Sparkle

 

[jboking]

The Fallout 3 one is more realistic. The point of war has always been to gain some advantage over your enemy.

For some, war can simply be a method to defend your homeland from invaders. Which means for them, it is not about an advantage, it is about keeping what is theirs.

also,
[HEADING=2]"So, you like to play Castlevania?"[/HEADING]
That is all.

[HEADING=2]"You like men!"[/HEADING]

[HEADING=2]"You can see into my mind!"[/HEADING]
I love egoraptor.

 

[jboking]

"War has changed."

"War...War never changes."

Which idea do you subscribe to?

Personally, I can't decide. I'm too torn. I'm tempted to say the latter, what with human aggression being so common, but the themes presented in the former and the idea of PMC's controlling a world economy, well, that's a scary thought.

Ahem, anyway...you thoughts?

War has obviously changed as warfare has become more technical. Overall however, war doesn't change. Enemies kill each other until one side is either all dead, or surrenders.

Great thought there, war never changes, cause otherwise it wouldn't be goddamn war. Saying something is still its definition is stupid. Its like saying "the French are still from France".

You can also consider who said the line. Snake, a soldier who was used to honorable fights (the kind he had with Gray Fox), now has to work with soldiers who aren't fighting for any cause other than that nice fat PMC paycheck. They all use ID tagged weapons instead of the traditional ones. For him, war had changed.

 

[sms_117b]

The Fallout 3 one is more realistic. The point of war has always been to gain some advantage over your enemy.

For some, war can simply be a method to defend your homeland from invaders. Which means for them, it is not about an advantage, it is about keeping what is theirs.

also,
[HEADING=2]"So, you like to play Castlevania?"[/HEADING]
That is all.

[HEADING=2]"You like men!"[/HEADING]

[HEADING=2]"You can see into my mind!"[/HEADING]
I love egoraptor.

[HEADING=2]"No!"[/HEADING]
The Awesome series is just that, awesome!

 

[jboking]

The Fallout 3 one is more realistic. The point of war has always been to gain some advantage over your enemy.

For some, war can simply be a method to defend your homeland from invaders. Which means for them, it is not about an advantage, it is about keeping what is theirs.

also,
[HEADING=2]"So, you like to play Castlevania?"[/HEADING]
That is all.

[HEADING=2]"You like men!"[/HEADING]

[HEADING=2]"You can see into my mind!"[/HEADING]
I love egoraptor.

[HEADING=2]"No!"[/HEADING]
The Awesome series is just that, awesome!

[small]"Fuck."[/small]

Indeed

 

[Squiggers]

The Fallout 3 one is more realistic. The point of war has always been to gain some advantage over your enemy.

yeah cause any of us surviving a nuclear war is completely plausible.
In my opinion, none of those to are remotely possible, maybe 100 years from now, sure we'll have power suits by then. The most realistic apocalypse game(I count MGS because it is) is Left 4 Dead, probably thats not who would survive.

I suggest you watch a certain British film called "Threads". Theres a damn good reason why that only got released 25 years after it was made by the British Government - it was too plausible for their liking.

Anyway.

I go with Fallout's version. Wars will always be fought to gain some form of supremacy, resource, or currency. That is the way it is, and always will be. The weapons and tactics may change, but the underlying reasons? They'll stay the same.

 

[iggyus]

You can't murder children? I can be the scourge of humanity and shit down people's throats...but I can't kill children.

Don't forget brutally murder and eat everyone they've ever known, leaving them to fend for themselves in the Wasteland, which actually won't be hard for them because they are immortal. And when they turn 18, they'll be outfitted with power armor and be top level, so being evil turns out to help the children!

Power armor wont save them from my shotgun!

 

[IxionIndustries]

I absolutely love the Mr. Handy and Mr. Gutsy quotes.

"I'd rather be dead than red!" -Mr. Gutsy
"There's nothing I like better than making some other poor bastard die for his country!" -Mr. Gutsy
"By god, If I had hands, I would strangle the life out of you!" -Mr Handy

 

[echelon3]

I believe that the MGS4 line and the Fallout 3 line, although opposite in the literal sense, are actually saying the same thing. MGS4 says that war has changed but it is still ever present, while Fallout 3 is saying that war never changes as in it never goes away, that humanity wont let war die. There can never be a human utopia. Stephen King's book "The Stand" labels that pretty clearly, and out lines sociological crap about how even after a purging of the human race, be it disease or a nuclear apocalypse, the survivors will gravitate towards each other and slowly reform a crude society. It won't be long before they start up their old shit again and start fighting with each other. It is inevitable. It is the downfall of us being a very social species.

 

[rockingnic]

"Snake, you need to change to disc 2... oh wait it's blu-ray!" -Otacon
"Dammit Otacon!" -Snake

Not word for word but basically what is mentioned after the *SPOILER* Crying Wolf Boss fight in Shadow Moses.

All the parodies in MGS4 are hilarious and always made me wish they made the game longer with more parodies!

 

[Aries_Split]

COMMUNISM IS THE DEFINITION OF FAILURE

CALCULATING THREAT TO MISSION: ZERO PERCENT!!

CHANCES OF RED CHINESE VICTORY: ZERO PERCENT!!

DEATH IS A PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE TO COMMUNISM!

 

[kibayasu]

I don't remember the exact wording, but this is from Otacon in Metal Gear Solid 4:

"Snake, to continue, you have to find the disk labelled "Disk 2"... You can't find it? Oh wait, you are playing on a Blu-Ray disk on the PS3!"

That just tickled my Sony fanboy interior and that's the lines that pretty much say no to the game appearing on the Xbox 360.

Until Konami gets fed up with the poor sales on the PS3.

What poor sales were those?

 

[Tony Grande]

I've thought about this topic. I have to say that Fallout gives a better argument then Metal Gear Solid. Fallout pretty much says that weapons, tactics, locations, and reasons might change but it doesn't change the fact that real men go out to stare death in the face; Metal Gear Solid says (I think! I haven't played it yet, just seen some cutscenes!) that war is everywhere and the tactics have changed.

Not tactics, reasons. War has gone from a last resort to the basis for the world. We no longer kill to live, we live to kill, dancing to the Patriots tune. And control comes down to just a few lines of code.

Hmm...Did you pay attention to your history lessons? Did the Romans invade Gaul as a last resort? Were the crusades a last resort? Was the American Independence a last resort? Was World War 2 a last resort?.

Yes, every one of these wars they were unable or unwilling to resolve their differences by negotiations and had to resolve to whoopass!

Stop trying to teach someone else a lesson by what you have been taught as the truth!

 

[MartinPeiM16]

Two mutants are eating a clown, and one asks the other "does this tast funny to you?"
Your personal robot in your Megatown house.
LOLZZz

 

[Soulgaunt]

"I once visited a crematorium with a discount for burn victims."
"A irradiated cat has 18 half-lives."
I blew up Megaton just so I could get Godfrey.

 

[CheeseSandwichCake]

COMMUNISM IS THE DEFINITION OF FAILURE

CALCULATING THREAT TO MISSION: ZERO PERCENT!!

CHANCES OF RED CHINESE VICTORY: ZERO PERCENT!!

DEATH IS A PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE TO COMMUNISM!

COMMUNIST SCUMBAG DETECTED!

 

[Khazoth]

War never changes.

The nature of mortal creatures down from the lowly chimp to the highest harvard graduate is one thing.

Competition. War is competition. Violence is just another way animals communicate.


War started with one of two reasons.


Caveman One: "MINE"
Caveman Two: "NO! IT MINE"

Or..

Caveman One: "ME TOUGH"
Caveman Two: "ME TOUGHER"


War has always started because of one of those two reasons, we just upgraded to bigger, faster rocks and sticks.

 

[Vanquishuer]

COMMUNISM IS A BACKWARDS STEP TO MANKIND.

AND A POTHOLE TO US SUPERIORITY!