Modern Warfare 2 Trailer Criticized For "Going Too Far"

[kommunizt kat]

Patriot much?

I wouldn't cry if seoul tower was burning in a video games trailer. I would say "MY COUNTRIES IN A VIDEO GAME!!!!!!." I'd actually feel pretty good about it.

our country was the first level in CS: condition zero... so i was like, we can now kill those damn terrorists in the south! THATS AWESOME! but it sort of gave the impression that our country was full of terrorists...

True. But everyone knows that S.Korea don't have terrorists. Instead we have a thing called " North Korea"

EXACTLY so what if there was a game wherein you play the korean war continued? If I remember right you're war never really ended right? So what if thise N. korean dudes cross the border and wage war in a video game? That would be kickass and weird.

 

[RelexCryo]

I'm American. No, it isn't going to far, if our government becomes corrupt and oppressive, slaughtering innocent people, and we cannot overcome that through peaceful means, then it is our obligation to blow it up ourselves.

It's not buildings or flags that are sacred, it is what those things represent that are sacred- freedom, human rights, equality.

Okay, so where did you get the idea that trailer showed a corrupt U.S. government being brought down? All it did was show some famous D.C. monuments in a war torn landscape. They didn't actually say what was going on at all. Or are you aware of something about the game that you haven't mentioned?

No. My point is that it isn't the bildings or flags that are really sacred. It is what they represent.Hence, showing the White House getting blown up isn't much worse by my standards than showing a trailer park getting blown up. Such things are nothing more than symbols.

Logically, if the United States were to get attacked by a SERIOUS opponent, then D.C> would get leveled. How is it possible for them to portray the United States as being truly threatened without that happening? Is it so bad for an opponent to actually pose a threat to us, that an enemy in a fictional story having a serious chance of winning is too much?

All of which doesn't answer my original question about your first statement of "No, it isn't going to far, if our government becomes corrupt and oppressive, slaughtering innocent people, and we cannot overcome that through peaceful means, then it is our obligation to blow it up ourselves."
It had no relevance and made absolutely no sense from what was being shown in the trailer. The idea you expanded on in your most recent response (which I think most people would agree on, btw) was only your last sentence. I was asking about the first two.

I already told you: No, I have no reason to think that it would be a rebellion against a corrupt America, but by the very nature of the fact those buildings are nothing more than symbols, and by the very nature of the fact that an opponent has to pose a serious threat to us for their to be real tension, I don't think it is anywhere close to going to far.

So why'd you make the original "Okay to bring down the government if it's corrupt." statement if even YOU had no reason to believe that's what the trailer is about? Why not just say what you just told me? I'm not questioning what you said, I just want to understand why you said it.

My point with, "it's okay to bring down the government if it's corrupt" is that government is not inherently sacred. Hence, showing the government geting blown away is no big deal.

 

[Nouw]

Patriot much?

I wouldn't cry if seoul tower was burning in a video games trailer. I would say "MY COUNTRIES IN A VIDEO GAME!!!!!!." I'd actually feel pretty good about it.

our country was the first level in CS: condition zero... so i was like, we can now kill those damn terrorists in the south! THATS AWESOME! but it sort of gave the impression that our country was full of terrorists...

True. But everyone knows that S.Korea don't have terrorists. Instead we have a thing called " North Korea"

EXACTLY so what if there was a game wherein you play the korean war continued? If I remember right you're war never really ended right? So what if thise N. korean dudes cross the border and wage war in a video game? That would be kickass and weird.

I'd be the first to buy that game.

 

[Anarchy In Detroit]

Oh screw the Christian Shit Monitor.

Tell me oh noble Christians... why is it ok to blow up random Eastern Europeans, random Russians, random Middle Easterners, but not the White House? How many times have we seen the Eiffel Tower get asploded in movies? How many times have we seen Berlin in ruins, playing as Soviets (you know, the people who raped and murdered their way back across what the Nazis already had raped and murdered the hell out of)? GROW UP.

Personally the White House getting ruined makes me actually curious to play this. Defending the US against... someone? Fuck yeah sign me up! Now there's a fight I can actually get behind.

 

[Billy Sastard]

Truth is stranger than fiction - and that's the appeal of the Modern Warfare series. So protesting a game that entertains by depicting a realistic situation means the protest is actually directed at reality. Uh ... good luck with that.

 

[annoyinglizardvoice]

That CSM bloke is a wonderful example of the self-important, hypocritical, ignorant double-standards that give the rest of te world a negative view of America.

 

[dancinginfernal]

I'm here assuming its destruction is mainly your motivation to defeat said foreign enemy.
Speaking of which, has ANYBODY heard of these people? "The Christian Science Monitor"?

 

[GreyWolf257]

I believe I may have just been impregnated by that video's awesomeness.

 

[TheFatman89]

Okay. This has to be THE most irritating thing I have read in a long time. WHY pray tell is it going "TOOOO FAAAR" to show a US city in a state of destruction, but in every other video game that depicts such a scene in the middle east, somewhere in Asia, Japan, China, South America, Africa, Germany, anywhere in Europe, Russia, and ETC it is just PEACHY. Why is it okay to depict their city's being leveled, and/or in states of deplorable disrepair and poverty? I am SO SICK of this attitude. I would dearly love the chance to talk to this subhuman piece of slime, and tell him exactly why he should not be spreading such views, especially in the name of christianity.

 

[Lucifus]

In fact, I burned pretty much every famous DC landmark. Washington Monument? Rubble. Lincoln Memorial? Trashed. Smithsonian Museum? Little more than dust in the wind of a nuclear explosion that rocked the city.

If you also remember they put a stop to that in the game after due to the amount of complaints.

However complaining about being able to blow up monuments OR playing in a ruin of a major city is laughable at best. Come 100 years time when our childrens children are playing Call of Duty: Iraq, issues like this will be quaint at best.

 

[supersixfour]

im am an american and proud to be one, but i really dont think its that big of a deal, like the article said, its not the first time that crap has gone down in the capital, in video games, let alone movies, maybe not on the scale depicted here but it really doesn't matter, I think its an unexpected plot twist that will only add to our anticipation of the game, what's good though is that they let you now in the trailer so that no one complains about it not knowing that D.C.'s is going to be in shambles when the game comes out, which would probably create twice as much contreversy,

 

[supersixfour]

i mean i wouldnt complain but ya know, other ppl might take some offense, i dont know why though

 

[Stormwalker]

Some people will say dumb things to the press just to get their name out there.

 

[HE Starwind]

Some people just don't realise it's a GAME. It's not made by terrorists themselves is it?

Or is it?

 

[Rancid0ffspring]

I wonder if he found it strking when that aircraft carrier struck the white house in the upcoming 2012 film? Or was it striking when that big 'ol green laser beam struck the white house in Indepenence Day

Personally I find the most striking thing to have happened recently was that journalist who struck Bush with his shoe

Forgive the bad grammer but I wanted to use struck & striking as much as possible

EDIT: Also, I think this will add to the awesomness of the game... No offence to you americans but when was the last time you heard of American troops fighting on their home soil? I think it'll add a degree of desperetion to any US side of the story line that you just wouldn't be able to replicate anywhere else

 

[Rancid0ffspring]

I believe I may have just been impregnated by that video's awesomeness.

Me too! This trailer is a cheating whore! lol

 

[KaiRai]

Jeez it's not like it's telling you how to build a bomb and then giving you the co-ordinates for a nuclear strike.

It's just a game dude!!!

 

[mokes310]

The Christian Science Monitor [http://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2009/10/05/modern-warfare-trailer-does-washington-burning-go-too-far/] [...]

Aaaaaaaand, I stopped caring here.

Thanks for saying what I was thinking! Also, did CSM have a problem with Fallout 3?