Molyneux Reveals Why Fable 3 Will Piss Players Off

[Amnestic]

Those changes sound...gimmicky. That's really the best word for them. As far as I can tell, the only major real gameplay change is the health thing and it's not as if anyone's a strange to regenerating health in games at this point anymore. Hell, it's not even a first in RPGs.

The weapon thing? I don't think that'll piss me off so much as slightly annoy me. Having weapons decide your appearance is just asking for problem with the kinds of people like me who obsess over their character's looks. I mean, it has the potential to block you off from a myriad of weaponry simply because it'll screw up the perfect appearance you wanted.

 

[mornal]

As interesting as the ideas sound, shouldn't he be working on getting the gameplay longer than a couple of hours?

 

[Enzeru92]

OOOO FABLE 3 is start too look good well from the beginning i was going to get it anyways

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

In addition, there will be a "touch" mechanic in Fable 3 that will allow players to punish or play with children,...

Uhhhh....it's not the players that are going to be pissed off...

 

[Pebkio]

So... will your level depend on how many people you make like and/or hate you? It just sounds like your level goes up depending on your "fame points" (NOT experience points they are being PROGRESSIVE, dammit). You get more famous by doing quests, with the main story quests giving the most fame points. You lose fame points for dying or failing a quest. Basically everything you'd call exp except you don't get any from random enounters anymore.

And you wouldn't get specialized exp depending on what type of combat you want to practice, which would be a bad move. Or maybe your followers would just "expect" you to be better at what style you fight with, and BAM, specialized fame points.

Or maybe it'll be that our level can go DOWN if we just want to play the storyline without bothering too much with interraction. If my level will depend on me impressing a group of people born in the Fable universe, I'd probably stay at level 1; because, well... I just wouldn't give a shit.

Wait... no health meters... no killing monsters for exp... and they'll probably carry on the tradition that money doesn't come from hunting...

What it really sounds like is that they think we want less of the fighting in RPGs and more of the Role Playing. But to Lionhead Studios, role-playing is the same as farting/dancing/flexing/laughing at a group of people. If I wanted to role-play my interaction with every NPC I could... I'd bust out some 20-sided dice.

 

[chstens]

But... I like bars and meters

 

[Terramax]

That fact that Fable 3 is going to be made will upset a couple of people.

 

[Hulyen]

Wait...didn't he say that Fable 2 wasn't going to have a HUD and that somehow the dog was going to handle that? Please tell me I'm not crazy and imagined that in an interview somewhere...

 

[The_Blue_Rider]

there will be a "touch" mechanic in Fable 3 that will allow players to punish or play with children

Fox news will be all over this. "OMG CHILD CRUELTY! PROTECT THE CHILDREN!"

Yeah, I thought the same thing. Well, looks like it's safe to assume at this point that Australia sure as hell won't be getting Fable 3!

Child makes fun of old lady who falls over.
You punish said child with light flick on the ear.
Michael Atkinson: "OH MY GOD, IT'S A CHILD TORTURE SIMULATOR! QUICK! BURN IT! BURN IT WITH FIRE! PROTECT TEH KIDDIES!!

A little off topic I know, but can you explain to me (and everyone else) how Australia works exactly when it comes to banning/allowing games? The rules seem pretty dictatorial for a democracy. Thanks.

Id like to know what the hell is going on with Aussie too! I know that they dont have an R18 rating but how come L4D2 had to be edited, but AvP is being released uncut?

OT: This is actually rather interesting, ill have to wait to see how it turns out but i was gonna buy Fable 3 anyway, some times i feel like the only Fable fan on the internet

 

[Jared]

I bet the PR department is prolly a little miffed at him right now.

Problem is...now he has done that he has done what he always does. Makes alot of pormises and now he will sttruggle to keep em all.

 

[ProtoChimp]

It doesn't sound too bad, but how much do you wanna bet that this is all bullshit, and that fable 3 will be just the same as the last ones.

 

[Pebkio]

It doesn't sound too bad, but how much do you wanna bet that this is all bullshit, and that fable 3 will be just the same as the last ones.

...except now with fame points instead of experience points. Don't forget that...
...and a llama instead of a dog...
...and nothing on the screen to help you remember you aren't playing a Myst game...

 

[jmorourke80]

Alright, so basically the biggest stumbling block is that Australia doesn't have an R18+ (Restricted, 18 years and older) classification for games. We do for other media, just not games: the concept being (originally, at any rate) that games are for kids and therefore an R18+ rating is unnecessary.

That leaves us with G (General), PG (Parental Guidance), M (Mature)... these are all just recommendations and the content itself is legally available to anyone who cares to get it. Then there's MA15+ (Mature Audience - Restricted) this is content that is legally restricted to viewers over 15 years old. Anything that doesn't fit in MA15+ or below gets dumped into RC (Refused Classification) and is legally unobtainable within Australia.

What makes a game fall into RC? Well, here's an excerpt from the classification code:

a) depict, express or otherwise deal with matters of sex, drug misuse or addiction, crime, cruelty, violence or revolting or abhorrent phenomena in such a way that they offend against the standards of morality, decency and propriety generally accepted by reasonable adults to the extent that they should not be classified; or
(b) describe or depict in a way that is likely to cause offence to a reasonable adult, a person who is, or appears to be, a child under 18 (whether the person is engaged in sexual activity or not); or
(c) promote, incite or instruct in matters of crime or violence; or
(d) are unsuitable for a minor to see or play

Nice and vague, eh?

Anyhoo - there's a move to introduce an R18+ classification for games (see here [http://www.ag.gov.au/gamesclassification] for more info) but in order for it to go through it has to be approved unanimously by all the states' Attorney-General one of whom, Michael Atkinson, I think would rather lose his left testicle than ever see it actually happen.

So, that's Australia game classication problem in a nutshell.

 

[Mr Companion]

Here we go again, the hope, the hype...
To be fair I have only felt Peters disappointing bite once with Fable 2. But I have no doubt this is going to be another standard RPG with little smidgens of game design shit all over the place.

 

[brunothepig]

"...Peter Molyneux has yet to grasp that not everyone gives a shit." --Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw

But seriously; no HUD? What about mana, hmm? How is one to keep track of that?

Wasen't there no limit to Mana in Fable 2?

Wait really? That would just be pathetically easy. And what sort of RPG doesn't have a HUD? How about innovating the story? Although some things sound interesting, it could well end up being one of those things where you avoid certain things and what not to keep your character as powerful, or how you like him.

 

[Andronicus]

there will be a "touch" mechanic in Fable 3 that will allow players to punish or play with children

Fox news will be all over this. "OMG CHILD CRUELTY! PROTECT THE CHILDREN!"

Yeah, I thought the same thing. Well, looks like it's safe to assume at this point that Australia sure as hell won't be getting Fable 3!

Child makes fun of old lady who falls over.
You punish said child with light flick on the ear.
Michael Atkinson: "OH MY GOD, IT'S A CHILD TORTURE SIMULATOR! QUICK! BURN IT! BURN IT WITH FIRE! PROTECT TEH KIDDIES!!

A little off topic I know, but can you explain to me (and everyone else) how Australia works exactly when it comes to banning/allowing games? The rules seem pretty dictatorial for a democracy. Thanks.

Well, seeing as I myself am not a member of the classification board, I can't give you the exact method by which they rate/allow games, but I can approximate a guess based on some of the more recent cases.

First of all, they all come into the office wearing scuba-gear and large novelty sombreros, and spend most of the day chatting about football and the most recent episode of Home and Away whilst eating little cucumber sandwiches and fairy bread. Then they put on their favourite Wiggles soundtrack and have a rowdy game of musical chairs, sometimes followed by a round of dead fish, if the mood so takes them, and much frivolity is had by all. Finally, at the end of the day, when they're all saying their goodbyes before they leave for home, someone shouts out "hey, aren't we supposed to be rating a video or something? A game maybe?", to which someone replies "Oh yeah. That game. Um. What's it called again?", whereupon the first man says "Err, I had it written down... um, somewhere here... ah yes. It's called 'Left for Dead'." After several seconds of ponderous silence, another woman in the crowd says "Sounds violent. Just ban it. No-one plays videogames anyway. No-one important, at least." A raucous laughter goes up, and the final stragglers bustle out the door, save for he man who spoke first. Standing alone, he examines the sheet of paper he was given. "Oh wait," he says, entirely to himself, "it's number two. A sequel." He looks at the paper for several seconds longer, shrugs and slams his oversized "BANNED" stamp onto it, and leaves for home.

As I said, I expect I'm missing some of the finer details of the intricate processes that occur within the OFLC, but I'm sure that's pretty accurate.

 

[AvsJoe]

Whatever.

I didn't pay any attention to this guy before either of the first 2 Fables so I'm not going to do so this time around either.

 

[300lb. Samoan]

The Molyneux Everlasting Hype Machine! ::sniff sniff:: Smells like heightened expectations in here already!

Crafty bastard, isn't he? The machine runs on the dreams of fanboys, and what have fanboys been dreaming about lately? Reasons to be pissed off at Peter Molyneux!