Monster Monpiece Censored for Sexual Imagery of Girl Monsters

[Itsthefuzz]

Which is stupid whats next banning content that disrespects gays or blacks?

There's a difference between banning something that's unpopular and likely offensive for a country (Like if a game had a racist message entwined in it.)

And then there's banning something that's unpopular, probably offensive, and also centered around something that's legally wrong.

Saying racist/homophobic comments in America? Well, that's kind of a dick move but it won't get you thrown in jail.

Things related to sex and minors? Pretty illegal.

 

[mindfaQ]

Monster girls, so boring.

I'm starting to wonder if Japan's suffering from a epidemic of sexual frustration due to its own social structure, especially on the male side, but nobody's willing to admit it...

Well certainly the women there start to complain about the guys getting more feminine. And a good number of guys don't wanna put up with their behavior and escape into media consumption.
Look up this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men
It is at least part of the whole story. There is a lot to talk or speculate about, but as long as you've not grown up there it is hard to come up with a reliable in-depth analysis of whats going on in Japan .

 

[Chemical Alia]

If I were king, I'd have that game censored based on the sounds in that video alone, that probably has the power to actually hurt people. That music, eughh.

 

[Playful Pony]

Being gay I certainly apreciate some nicely rounded (even animated) tits, and although this kind of game isn't for me I have definently seen much 'worse' on websites and in media that I do in no way frequent *cough*. I guess it's a ratings thing? They couldn't get the rating they wanted so they removed the sources of concern in order to get that rating?

Can't help but notice that in the trailer one of the characters boobs are constantly jiggling even as she stands still. Ohw you.. [http://newnation.sg/wp-content/uploads/oh-you-dog.jpg]

I DID however, find this

Shit... I'd be a master at this game, I'm so used to that "control scheme"

Thats... Thats... WTF?

I guess it's a familiar 'control scheme' -as you call it- for males, but it is a bit overt, isn't it? As with all things like this masturbating is certainly implied even without that feature, but I can't for example imagine someone playing this game on the bus, or even outside a locked room with no windows...

 

[Floppertje]

'master, I am at your service'... Is it just me or does this whole game seem incredibly sexist? collecting a different species of 'girls' that apparently exists to serve humans and they get more naked as they become more powerful? and that control scheme... what the donkeypants is this?

 

[Krantos]

Ya...no its Mature material but nothing higher than that...the US is so messed up...

You level girls up by stripping them. And you do this by rubbing them repeatedly. And several of the girls are of questionable age.

....and you think we're the ones messed up. :/

granted we are, just not in this instance.

OT: kind of a "Oh, Japan" type story.

 

[1337mokro]

Because America. Shoot a guy in the face and say he was kind of scaring you and everything is cool, but if you show a nipple! 20 years in jail.

It's also a WTF Japan moment, but really when you import this game what do you expect?

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Ya...no its Mature material but nothing higher than that...the US is so messed up...

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Well Child Porn is kinda an absolute theres no real redeeming factor to it. Fake child porn on the other hand harms no one its just easier to ban it all under a blanket mentality than deal with things the various circumstance the real world throws at you. Sorry about it being posted in a qoute it all just messed up on me...

Which is stupid whats next banning content that disrespects gays or blacks?

There's a difference between banning something that's unpopular and likely offensive for a country (Like if a game had a racist message entwined in it.)

And then there's banning something that's unpopular, probably offensive, and also centered around something that's legally wrong.

Saying racist/homophobic comments in America? Well, that's kind of a dick move but it won't get you thrown in jail.

Things related to sex and minors? Pretty illegal.

Fake minors are not real desu. My point being we give up so much with blanket mentalities than transpose to law that no one wants to change because its unpopular to do so.

But ya this is not that its jsut set me off.....oh humanity when can I rage quite you....

Ya...no its Mature material but nothing higher than that...the US is so messed up...

You level girls up by stripping them. And you do this by rubbing them repeatedly. And several of the girls are of questionable age.

....and you think we're the ones messed up. :/

granted we are, just not in this instance.

OT: kind of a "Oh, Japan" type story.

Banning, fou banning ,forced censorship to sell something,ect,ect of fiction because you disagree with it is far more sick and disgusting. After all the Nazis did alot of good for Germany common morality went up for a time,crime rates went down the economy blossomed,ect,ect only that did not end so well. And you might think this is a minor thing but as the old saying goes they came for you I did nothing, they came for everyone else I did nothing they came for me because I did nothing. Never diminish ones tastes and rights to something so minor its okay to restrict or destroy because you and what you like to do will be next.

 

[JoJo]

Ya...no its Mature material but nothing higher than that...the US is so messed up...

You level girls up by stripping them. And you do this by rubbing them repeatedly. And several of the girls are of questionable age.

....and you think we're the ones messed up. :/

granted we are, just not in this instance.

OT: kind of a "Oh, Japan" type story.

It's just an unabashed sexual fantasy, I don't really see what's messed up about that, it's perfectly natural for a species such as ourselves who depends on reproduction to sustain our population to enjoy some mindless sexual fantasies every now and again. It's quite literally inbuilt. Questionable age, well it's lucky then these are fictional characters who are impossible to harm rather than real girls.

 

[WindKnight]

Ya...no its Mature material but nothing higher than that...the US is so messed up...

At least one of those girls was certainly underage, or rather has the body of a young girl.

I'm thinking it's the loli content that's the issue here.

If it's just sexual imagery, it's silly, because if you buy this game, you are buying it for that sort of stuff.

Which is stupid whats next banning content that disrespects gays or blacks?

Banning(even fou banning) things never works and works against society in general over time as more things need to be banned.

Unless you can find direct constant harm things do not need to be banned....


/pissed off

Loli-con stuff has a possible 'grooming' aspect to it. Its potentially a tool for a pedophile to use to normalize abuse - 'look, its OK sweety, the girls and boys in this game/cartoon/comic are doing it, its totally ok.'

 

[EyeReaper]

Hmm.. I can only wonder why this was censored. *cue eye roll*

Lolis have never been a problem in my eyes. for a couple of reasons.

1) Lolis are usually of age, but with a younger looking body, or at least in most of the games I've played. They're kinda like really cute midgets with giant eyes.

2) With how hyper-stylized everything is in anime nowadays, it really is hard to tell the age of characters just by eye-balling. It's better to assume they are over age than it is to assume otherwise. At least, that's the way I roll.

Hmm.. I'm not sure if I'll get this game or not. On one hand, If it takes any cues from Monster Girl Quest, It'll probably be a good story, and the non-touching up gameplay looks kinda like Duelist of the Roses, my favorite yugioh game. On the other hand, depending on how vital the feeling up aspect is, I might not want to take it outside, which is usually a negative for a handheld game.

 

[MerlinCross]

Yeah I'm gonna take a stand on this. Just from a different perspective. Stripping girls down to power them up? Given how video games tend to portray females, this was gonna happen sooner or later. Look at all the web based games that advertise half naked girls anyway. But that's not what I want to talk about. Looking at the actual game play(the card battles), it looks interesting. That's why I'm upset about this;

The following cards are limited to their level 1, 2, or 3 evolution form due to "the strong sexual nature of the card images": Vampire, Kraken, Goblin, Cockatrice, Kobold, Skeleton, Titania, Bahamut, Fia, Brownie, Pegasus, Mandragora, Mau Sibau, Rafflesia, Death Scorpion, Phantom, and Tengu.

I have way to little infomation here, but this could potentially nerf some cards.It's usually understood that leveling up makes it stronger so those that are stuck to only level 1 out of say 2-3 are gonna really see their usage plummet. Normally I don't mind censoring if it's doesn't effect gameplay, but this could completely re-balance these cards. Now I don't have more info; what the cards do per level and actually mechcanics of battle, so this is just a guess.

 

[JoJo]

Ya...no its Mature material but nothing higher than that...the US is so messed up...

At least one of those girls was certainly underage, or rather has the body of a young girl.

I'm thinking it's the loli content that's the issue here.

If it's just sexual imagery, it's silly, because if you buy this game, you are buying it for that sort of stuff.

Which is stupid whats next banning content that disrespects gays or blacks?

Banning(even fou banning) things never works and works against society in general over time as more things need to be banned.

Unless you can find direct constant harm things do not need to be banned....


/pissed off

Loli-con stuff has a possible 'grooming' aspect to it. Its potentially a tool for a pedophile to use to normalize abuse - 'look, its OK sweety, the girls and boys in this game/cartoon/comic are doing it, its totally ok.'

The same could be said about regular live-action adult pornography, in-fact more so as rather than your 'potentially' claim it's known to be regularly used by predators to groom minors, would you be in favour of banning of regular adult pornography for hindering grooming opportunities too? (Not that sexual predators tend to be that fussed about following the law anyway...)

 

[WindKnight]

Ya...no its Mature material but nothing higher than that...the US is so messed up...

At least one of those girls was certainly underage, or rather has the body of a young girl.

I'm thinking it's the loli content that's the issue here.

If it's just sexual imagery, it's silly, because if you buy this game, you are buying it for that sort of stuff.

Which is stupid whats next banning content that disrespects gays or blacks?

Banning(even fou banning) things never works and works against society in general over time as more things need to be banned.

Unless you can find direct constant harm things do not need to be banned....


/pissed off

Loli-con stuff has a possible 'grooming' aspect to it. Its potentially a tool for a pedophile to use to normalize abuse - 'look, its OK sweety, the girls and boys in this game/cartoon/comic are doing it, its totally ok.'

The same could be said about regular live-action adult pornography, in-fact more so as rather than your 'potentially' claim it's known to be regularly used by predators to groom minors, would you be in favour of banning of regular adult pornography for hindering grooming opportunities too? (Not that sexual predators tend to be that fussed about following the law anyway...)

So... live action adult pornography features underage characters drawn in a cutesy way that children may see as being like the cartoons, comics or games they play every day? You really didn't think that argument through very well did you.

 

[otakon17]

At this point they're just censoring an artstyle. They're fictional non-existent female character of undetermined age that's getting censored because they "look" underage. But at least the game is coming over here. But really it's already rated mature, do they really need to censor it? God of War had torture, violence, nudity, lesbian love fests and there wasn't any mosaic in that. But got a chick who's drawn in a very stylized way with no real curves and suddenly it's treading dangerous ground. I don't get it, it's not gonna bother anyone that is going to buy it for crying out loud who are buying it for the eye-candy.

 

[Hagi]

Considering it got a 12 rating in Europe it strongly points to it not being an "oh, Japan" story but rather an "oh, America" story.

I mean don't get me wrong, the only thing of any value lost here whatsoever is the time spend censoring this game, albeit considering the people who consider this worthy of being censored and/or worthy of being made that's no great loss at all.

But still... time wasted. It's just a random likely bad video game. Not worth the time censoring it, not worth the time playing it. But hell, if anyone wants to waste their time on this I don't believe anyone has the right to stop them or censor this... whatever it is...

 

[vagabondwillsmile]

Despite having zero interest in the game (I despise that kind of pandering, as well the whole "master" schtick, and they can say what ever age the character is all they want, if they look twelve the image alone creeps me out. But I'm willing to say it's just not my thing in acceptance of cultural differences concerning art style.), it's strange to see the comparative focus of the ESRB in what it wants to protect everyone from. They don't really care about how much people tear each other apart or how many holes they put in each other - slap an M rating on it sure - no need to change or cut anything though; but they draw the line at weird game mechanics and boobs, by God. Yep, ladies keep evil under their shirts.

In Europe, you might be watching a family comedy at the cinema and see nudity. Examples: Rien à Déclerer, or L'arnacoeur, or Bienvenue à Board. I think a lot of people in the states might have seen Amélie. I know this last one was rated R in the U.S. It was a general audiences film in France and Germany. Granted the presentation of nudity there is a little different what is seen in the U.S. The presentation seems more natural, and less pandering like, "Everybody has them. Big deal." (I digress - it's hard to explain, you kind of have to spend time there or at have some exposure to their films to see the differences in presentation.) And American movies that make their way to Europe get different ratings - Friends with Benefits, for example, was rated R in the states but it was less strict in France and Germany - maybe the equivalent of PG-13. But Europe is tougher on people killing each other in entertainment when it comes to ratings. Go figure.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

..."However, Western society is not as lenient as that of Japan when sexual images are involved - especially images of humanoids that appear to be younger than a socially acceptable age."

If there is any solid, peer-reviewed literature that explains why things like this are seen as acceptable in Japan, please do not hesitate to recommend it. Japan is obscured from my eyes and requires further understanding.

I'll second this because I've never understood how their culture works. They seem to be oddly prude and lewd at the same time from what I can tell, and very backwards regarding the treatment of women. Granted this is all from an American point of view take it as you will. I may not be your "typical American" though.

I took a class on this in college, and to sum it up shortly and without going into massive details and writing a paper on it that still wouldn't do it justice, it comes down it, "It just is." They are so different from the Western World in ways that simply boggle Westerners' minds. The teacher was Japanese, and she would often tell us that many things we do over her are still strange to her.

On topic, even if this game interested me, I don't think I could play it. I would be too embarrassed, even if I was playing by myself with no one else around. I just wouldn't be able to do it.

 

[CloudAtlas]

..."However, Western society is not as lenient as that of Japan when sexual images are involved - especially images of humanoids that appear to be younger than a socially acceptable age."

If there is any solid, peer-reviewed literature that explains why things like this are seen as acceptable in Japan, please do not hesitate to recommend it. This requires further understanding.

Can't provide any peer-reviewed literature but I wouldn't be surprised if Japan has different sexual norms to Western countries due to the lack of Abrahamic religions whose typically sex-negative attitudes have permeated our culture for well over a thousand years. I think it wouldn't hurt to learn from some of their attitudes, such as openness to non-sexual nudity and embracing some of the weirder sides of sex, though their society isn't perfect either, they can be very prudish and traditional in other ways and have problems with the way women are treated, see the groping in trains situation.

Japan was sexually quite liberal before it came in touch with the West. Gay sex, sex with kids, sex with more than two participants, that wasn't such a big deal. Then our puritan morals slowly seeped in. Maybe that's why they have this weird mix of prudishness and perviness today.
But I don't really know either. I think a bit more "prudeisheness" in some areas, what with all the tentacles and rape and groping and borderline pedophilia stuff,and a bit less in others, like being gay, would be healthy.

 

[hazydawn]

"However, Western society is not as lenient as that of Japan when sexual images are involved - especially images of humanoids that appear to be younger than a socially acceptable age."

You know, at least our porn is uncensored.
It's all bullshit of course but if I had to choose...