"However, Western society is not as lenient as that of Japan when sexual images are involved - especially images of humanoids that appear to be younger than a socially acceptable age."
Unless you stopped censoring your porn, Japan, I disagree.
Draconalis said:
Don't get me wrong... I'm not a fan of loli content... but it disturbs me how many games are being censored. This is the fourth I know about.
The only difference between games before and games now is that it wasn't news before. So are you disturbed because it's "new," or because it was just brought to your attention?
amaranth_dru said:
I'll second this because I've never understood how their culture works. They seem to be oddly prude and lewd at the same time from what I can tell, and very backwards regarding the treatment of women. Granted this is all from an American point of view take it as you will. I may not be your "typical American" though.
It's a fairly Western point of view, rather than merely American. Granted, as Americans we may be somewhat more prudish than some other cultures, but still.
I'm not sure I care if people fapping to underage girls (pretend or real) are talking down to me, though.
JoJo said:
Can't provide any peer-reviewed literature but I wouldn't be surprised if Japan has different sexual norms to Western countries due to the lack of Abrahamic religions whose typically sex-negative attitudes have permeated our culture for well over a thousand years. I think it wouldn't hurt to learn from some of their attitudes, such as openness to non-sexual nudity and embracing some of the weirder sides of sex, though their society isn't perfect either, they can be very prudish and traditional in other ways and have problems with the way women are treated, see the groping in trains situation.
Most of their changes towards sex laws came to be during the post-WW2 period and were influenced by 'Murricans of the Christian persuasion, so I wouldn't say that was the case. You may also notice that Japan has a lot of hybridised Christianity--actual Christians are a small minority, but Christianity isn't truly that rare in Japan. It used to puzzle me why the culture seemed so obsessed with Christian iconography until I read about that.
Japan was far more sex-negative before the US came along with its Abrahamic culture. And it was also 'Murrica that prompted things like age of consent, which is still relatively new in Japan in a formal sense. And informally, was fairly loose.
Call me an arrogant American if you want, but coming from an atheist who doesn't give a damn about Abrahamic morality, I don't think "don't fuck children" is a bad concept. I'd also note that Western treatment of women has evolved despite the Abrahamic faiths, not because of it. I mean, have you actually read the works that comprise the Judeo/Christian/Islamic faiths? Man, they're bad to women.
ZippyDSMlee said:
Which is stupid whats next banning content that disrespects gays or blacks?
Slippery slope only works if there's a reason to believe there's progression. Since this is nothing new in censorship,yet we've still managed to avoid disappearing down that slope, it's inane.
Banning(even fou banning) things never works and works against society in general over time as more things need to be banned.
How fortunate nothing's being banned. They're doing this because of what the consumer will tolerate. And honestly,I'm kind of glad sexualised underage girls are one of those lines. Even if it means passive-aggressive responses from Japan.
I'm not sure how you compare the voluntary changing of ideas because of free market concepts to the ideology of a brutal regime who actually sanctified those in laws and harsh punishments.
Never diminish ones tastes and rights to something so minor its okay to restrict or destroy because you and what you like to do will be next.
Ignoring the slippery slope (since I already touched upon it), nobody is diminishing anyone's rights. Well, I take that back. Critics of this move are attempting to diminish the rights of the companies involved to both self-determination and commerce. Nobody is entitled to sexualised kids. People are entitled to run their business as they see fit within laws, and to choose whether or not to publish something in a region in such a way as to not be profitable.
otakon17 said:
I don't get it, it's not gonna bother anyone that is going to buy it for crying out loud who are buying it for the eye-candy.
And they don't think enough people would buy it in large enough numbers to jusify keeping it as-is. What's the problem?