Most Obvious Plot Holes (spoilers ahoy!)

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Zhukov

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Dormin111 said:
He probobly caught bits of sleep occasionally, maybe an hour per night or so. Plus as the doctor says "no, you can't die from insomnia."
Actually, complete lack of sleep will kill you. But it takes about three months.

I have never seen the movie Fight Club so I don't know if that constitutes a plot hole.
 

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SliverBlade said:
Revenge of the Sith. At the end, Anakin has his legs and one of his arms chopped off, he is burned from lava, and was left untreated for at least half an hour. He lives from "medical science" while Padame dies from being choked and from child birth. I just don't get that.
I think you mean THE ENTIRE PREQUEL SERIES, is just one gigantic plot hole.
 

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I got a couple from the Matrix movies.

Okay, so in the first movie Morpheus explains that the machines keep humans alive so they can harvest their body heat. Fair enough. But why use humans? Why not use sheep instead? They're less prone to rebellion. And if you really must use humans, why would you plug them all into a huge artificial reality? Why not just keep them sedated?

Also, in the last movie the machine attack Zion with a whole crapload of those flying squid robot things. Why not just pump some gas down there? I realise it's all just an excuse for a huge action scene, but still...
 

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henritje said:
Terminator 3
if the technology for xkynet was COMPLETLY destroid in T2 how can it exist T3?
The US airforce took over the skynet project and by using super-duper American magic were able to carry on the research where it was left off, regardless of whether the cyberdine building was trashed or not :p
 

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The Seldom Seen Kid said:
The only one I can think of is The Dark Knight (I know, it's not really gaming, whatever.)
As much as I love that movie, it's just littered with inconsistencies.
Why would Joker give two different versions of how he got his scars?
When would he find time rig two entire boats?
How can he join a soldier parade without anybody noticing the big lip scars?
Why is Batman taking the heat for Two-Face?
And most importantly: Why is defeating ten henchmen single-handedly more difficult then a single person with a knife? Or a dog, for that matter?

EDIT: I found a gaming-related one:
If Isaac's wife, from Dead Space, is a product of his imagination: HOW COULD SHE HAVE OPENED A DOOR FOR HIM VIA A COMPUTER NETWORK?!
Really? I mean really?
Joker gave two different versions of the story, because he doesn't people to know the truth of how he got them?
As for rigging the boats, he has henchmen.. it seems logical he got them to rig it -.-
In terms of the soldier deal with the Joker, the whole thing is his makeup was so well done that nobody noticed. Also would it be that hard to believe a soldier had those sorts of scars? they lose limbs all the time, it could be he copped it from grenade shrapnel or something else along those lines.
Batman took the heat for Harvey, because in death he was a symbol of power that they could use to carry on the ideals and goodwill they were planning to. If he had taken the flack for everything he caused, then all their plans would have fallen to pieces on the word of a dead corrupt politician.

From your post.. it sounds like you completely missed the point of that entire film, but regardless... for me playing Dead Space I noticed that plothole too, but the entire game weird shit happens as well as people hallucinating (if you've read the comics).
It would make perfect sense to think that Isaac was literally losing his mind and because all of the conversations with Nicole were tied to the artifact, you can clearly see by the end of the game he has lost his mind.
That's just further evidence of that fact.
 

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8bitlove2a03 said:
Bioshock:
Dying causes you to be instantly revived in the nearest VitaChamber, because you are close enough to Andrew Ryan's genetic code and he can use VitaChambers. When he commits suicide-by-player, his personal VitaChamber in his office is off. Presumably this was to make the point that Ryan doesn't give a toss anymore because his city has gone to Hell and there's nothing to be done so he wants to die. However, the game spawns you in the closest nearby VitaChamber. Since that one was off it would just mean he would be routed to the next closest chamber. So obviously Ryan spawned in a chamber just outside his office, then ran away before shit hit the fan with Fontaine.

Tldr: science happened in Bioshock, Andrew Ryan is still alive...?
Actually, the answer to that is explained in the sequel.
Needless to say, killing yourself isn't when you get revived. It's when a sudden trauma to the body occurs, then the Vita-chamber revives them. People can kill themselves but not be revived because when they die they aren't in a state of severe traum to the body.
 

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The Seldom Seen Kid said:
EDIT: I found a gaming-related one:
If Isaac's wife, from Dead Space, is a product of his imagination: HOW COULD SHE HAVE OPENED A DOOR FOR HIM VIA A COMPUTER NETWORK?! [/spoiler]
Nicole is dead she wasn't just a figment of his imagination her opening the door didn't happen Issac only imagined that she was the reason for the door opening even thought it was third person we were still seeing events as Issac does
 

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Dead Space had a pretty unforgivable one.

If Isaac possessed any intelligence at all he could have just looked at the first letter of every chatper to see that "NICOLE IS DEAD" instead of being surprised by it later.
Fool.
Since when does the main character know that they are in a game much less what the chapters are called
Since Eat Lead: The story of Matt Hazard was developed, lol....
 

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sagacious said:
In Half-life 2 *prepares for flame* Near the end, when Gordan Freeman is infiltrating the citadel, why doesn't he grab onto the BACK of the coffin-cart? at least that way when he gets up to Breen's office he will be free and able to move around.

p.s. I don't know how to do a spoiler box.
He couldn't have done this because the Combine and the Striders and EVERYTHING ON THE WAY TO BREENS OFFICE would have spotted him. Inside the coffin thing he was entirely inconspicuous.
 

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Actually thought of a better one for Dead Space isn't it a bit silly how easily Issac dispatches multipull Necromorphs but a single one manages to take on Valor a fully staff military vessel and win
 

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Zhukov said:
I got a couple from the Matrix movies.

Okay, so in the first movie Morpheus explains that the machines keep humans alive so they can harvest their body heat. Fair enough. But why use humans? Why not use sheep instead? They're less prone to rebellion. And if you really must use humans, why would you plug them all into a huge artificial reality? Why not just keep them sedated?
SNIP
On top of this, the whole 'negative return' thing. 'They liquefy the dead to feed to the living' (or whatever it is). Think about how much useable material there is on a human body, then think about how many adult humans you would have to consume just to reach adulthood yourself, nevermind if you live 80 years or so.
 

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I still have two plotholes from the Halo trilogy that need explaining.

Halo 2:
When the Prophet of Regret retreats from Earth with In Amber Clad in hot pursuit he stumbles upon another Halo. Granted we now all know that he came to Earth in search of the Ark or at least the Portal which was clearly the main thing the Covenant had been seeking up until this point but if he was aware that there was a Halo ring then why didn't he just go for that in the first place?
Oh wait, he jumped the gun so the ring was 'plan B'... never mind I think I may have just answered my own question.

Halo 3:

The Gravemind pursuing them onto the Ark which was beyond the rim of the Milky Way galaxy. Cortana mentioned the solution on the other side of the portal that could stop the flood, however that solution ended up being a Halo Ring which would in turn if activated kill all sentient life in the galaxy hence the only way that plan of hers could work would be if the Gravemind went in there in the first place. So my only remaining solution was that she was hoping the Gravemind would read the message and follow and luckily this plan succeeded but still.... you'd think a highly intelligent AI wouldn't put so many high stakes up to chance.
 

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Serioli said:
Zhukov said:
I got a couple from the Matrix movies.

Okay, so in the first movie Morpheus explains that the machines keep humans alive so they can harvest their body heat. Fair enough. But why use humans? Why not use sheep instead? They're less prone to rebellion. And if you really must use humans, why would you plug them all into a huge artificial reality? Why not just keep them sedated?
SNIP
On top of this, the whole 'negative return' thing. 'They liquefy the dead to feed to the living' (or whatever it is). Think about how much useable material there is on a human body, then think about how many adult humans you would have to consume just to reach adulthood yourself, nevermind if you live 80 years or so.
Using humans as batteries is a silly idea anyway even without considering the tremendous ammounts of power it would take just to keep the Matrix running let alone have enough power leftover for the rest of the machines
 

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The only one I can think of is from a movie, Star Trek: Generations.

Picard is told by Guinan that he can go back to any point in time to stop Sauron's plan, and he goes back to enlist Captain Kirk (Only for Kirk to die later because of this) for help, instead of going back to when they found Sauron originally and phasering his punk ass right then.
 

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Also the entire final boss of KH2, I could kinda understand the first boss of KH1, but the final boss in KH2 was just one long "Wait wut?"
 

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shadyh8er said:
God of War 3

Athena tells Kratos the reason Zeus was so obsessed with killing him was that he was overcome by the evils released by Pandora's box. Really? It wasn't because Kratos was being a douche and killing everything just like Ares? Not to mention Athena clearly stated in God of War 2 that Zeus wanted to end the whole "son killing father" trend. I interpret this to be a sad attempt to make Kratos look like a hero.
^This.

I was fairly disappointed with God of War 3, this being one of the reasons.
 

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the_maestro_sartori said:
henritje said:
Terminator 3
if the technology for xkynet was COMPLETLY destroid in T2 how can it exist T3?
The US airforce took over the skynet project and by using super-duper American magic were able to carry on the research where it was left off, regardless of whether the cyberdine building was trashed or not :p
it doesnt fit with the first two skynet was based on parts from the terminators but EVERY part of them was destroyd in T2 wich makes that impossible
 
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HT_Black said:
Splinter Cell: Conviction has two massive holes:

Firstly, Reed had to know that Grim was a mole, because the game wouldn't have happened otherwise. Sam is in Valetta looking for his daughter's killer, although he doesn't have a name for his target. Grim is the one who alerts him to the mercenary presence in the town, and from there he learns who Kobin is. But the thing is, Sam had no idea who he was looking for, and Kobin would've had no idea he was there unless Reed (who had surveillance one Sam) told him. And the only reasons he would do that, instead of allowing Sam to go his merry way, are clinical retardation or knowledge that Grim was working against the third Eschelon.

Secondly, why would all the Splinter Cells suddenly go psycho like they did? it's established canon that all agents of 3E have to have been special forces operatives at one time or another, for an extended duration, yet they all attack the white house without remorse. Attacking Sam I can understand (he was a rogue agent), but why would they do something like that?
Attacking the White House with your old organisation is the best way to go if you want to appeal to players who like guns and have no patience.

It would've been a better plot if Reed had been in the games previously, because really him and his men seemed like they'd been randomly inserted in for a plot. I can't think of any previous Third Echelon character that could've fit the bill as a future traitor. Grim's role completely and insanely changes, it would never be Lambert's style (I miss Lambert), William Redding was a techie, Frances Coen wasn't that mean-spirited, and Vernon Wilkes Jr. died. And yet still, even if there had been a random mention of someone in Third Echelon, it could've been used, like with Abrahim Zerkhezi's being mentioned in Pandora Tomorrow (although the first three games did pretty well at interweaving plothooks with each other - the ISDF, Black Wednesday, the committee on the Masse Kernels etc.).

Games that use characters from previous games as traitors instantly gain more emotional connection from me. Reed was a "mole", but I never met him before then, so why would I even care? All I know is he was a bad guy, that was it. Even Assistant Director Williams from the last-gen versions would've increased emotional links, even if it didn't suit him.

Here's my favourite example of a betrayal done well: Chaos Theory is one of my favourite video games ever, mainly for the plot, and especially the character of Douglas Shetland, who was in Pandora Tomorrow. You rescue him, establish an emotional link, and this is strengthened by his assistance in the Kuantung camp operation. It also proves he has combat experience and isn't just some flabby CEO. It fits his later role on Chaos Theory.

Now I know just putting in random people as traitors can seem like the ultimate of ass-pulls but Shetland's future role is actually slightly alluded to during Pandora Tomorrow, which actually seems to be setting up the shady dealings of Displace International and the ISDF (I do hope you've played the other games, otherwise I'm ruining things for you), and you don't notice it at the time. Shetland's betrayal at the hands of the US government, Displace's seemingly innocuous involvement with the Smallpox containers, the Kuantung Pilot's mention of the ISDF, which you dismiss as paranoia - it adds up and complements Chaos Theory, and really helps it, along with the better gameplay mechanics, to be my favourite Splinter Cell game.

To summarise: Reed was a nobody. It annoys me.