Most Obvious Plot Holes (spoilers ahoy!)

[RowdyRodimus]

In TDK Batman took the heat because it would show that Gordon and his men were incompetent and couldn't keep the Joker from getting Harvey after he went after the mob. This way it shows that someone Gordon trusted and let inside turned on him and did it in a way that was unforseen. Batman had to take the fall instead of the Joker or noone would have faith in the cops or be willing to do what's right from fear of not being protected.

 

[Josh123914]

In Uncharted 2(and most games with regenerating health)
In a cutscene a cameraman is shot in the thigh and in the next level you have to haul his sorry butt through hoards of enemies,what annoys me is in the previous level with him he regenerates health like everyone else but in the cutscene he doesn't, not to mention the fact that whenever I hauled him through the level(and I remember) I got shot numerous times in the head and other parts of the body yet somehow suvived. If anything, I need the handicap

 

[SliverBlade]

Revenge of the Sith. At the end, Anakin has his legs and one of his arms chopped off, he is burned from lava, and was left untreated for at least half an hour. He lives from "medical science" while Padame dies from being choked and from child birth. I just don't get that.

I think you mean THE ENTIRE PREQUEL SERIES, is just one gigantic plot hole.

That too. I didn't think the first one was that bad though.

 

[flipsalty]

I want to point out the entire plot of CoD:MW2.

Oh, example? Well, the catalyst for the invasion of America is the terrorist attack in a Russian airport where there was one American corpse..... Okay.

To think that Russian security was so lax there that they didn't check the cameras to see who else was involved, or that American intelligencia wouldn't be out there doing a massive CYA job to prevent such an invasion from happening by their fault is lowbrow thinking at its utmost.

The entire plot for Modern Warfare 2 was one big facepalm after another.

Don't forget to add how easy it was for Russia to invade America.

I'd say 'this' many times over. In fact it even shows you how easy it is to invade the US in Infinity ward's heads.
"Hey, I'm picking up around 100 to a possible fuckload of Russian based Aircraft that have got through the last 400 miles or so of radar, are you picking them up

"Well, yeah it's on the screen but surely they can't all be Russian planes, I mean, that would be silly right?"
"Oh well, fucked on the both of us all 900 planes just opened fire on the West Coast..."

It just baffled me how ALL those planes just sort of went...poof! And appeared all over the US like a dirty rash. Score 1 for top-notch hardware.

The plot made sense just fine. How would the security cameras be able to point out that the other hit squad members weren't American? Theres a reason the mission was called "No Russian" and why it was said at the start. All of them spoke English and not Russian which would further point to the United States. The Russian Ultranationalist party was looking for a reason to attack the United States so they used this.

For the second point, the Russians stole the ACS module which prevented the planes from being picked up on long range satellite scans so the radar operators thought it must be a glitch for so many planes to all of a sudden show up on short range scanners. And once the planes were within that short range theres not much the US could do except possibly scrambling fighters. It's not like there are AA batteries along the United States' coasts.

 

[Nomanslander]

In Uncharted 2(and most games with regenerating health)
In a cutscene a cameraman is shot in the thigh and in the next level you have to haul his sorry butt through hoards of enemies,what annoys me is in the previous level with him he regenerates health like everyone else but in the cutscene he doesn't, not to mention the fact that whenever I hauled him through the level(and I remember) I got shot numerous times in the head and other parts of the body yet somehow suvived. If anything, I need the handicap

You can't confuse game logic to plot logic, there's certain things the game play is going to have in order to work, and if you take it into perspective of the plot no game would end up making sense.

In Fallout 3, I can pretty much freeze the game with VATS even when I'm being jumped by Enclave and change clothing, repair items, so on so forth. That's gameplay logic you just gotta let slide...=/

 

[Smagmuck_]

The only issue I have with MW2 is...

When Sheperd stabs MacTaverish in the chest. Judging by where it penatrated, wouldn't have it punctured/cut/lacerated the heart? I mean yeah, if you were hit there you'd have at least a few seconds of life before dying but not almost a solid five minutes. Also, wouldn't it be extremly painful/hard to remove a serated blade from such an area?

 

[flipsalty]

In Transformers 2,

(WHICH SUCKEDDDD)

The little RC Decepticon? Remember him? Well, after they went inside that one temple, HE DISAPPEARED FROM THE MOVIE. Seriously, just, poof. It aggravated me so much after I noticed it.

Don't forget when they go into the air and space museum in Washington DC and then exit the back into the airplane graveyard in Arizona. The movies just full of plot holes, I think wikipedia has a list of them.

 

[flipsalty]

I want to point out the entire plot of CoD:MW2.

Oh, example? Well, the catalyst for the invasion of America is the terrorist attack in a Russian airport where there was one American corpse..... Okay.

To think that Russian security was so lax there that they didn't check the cameras to see who else was involved, or that American intelligencia wouldn't be out there doing a massive CYA job to prevent such an invasion from happening by their fault is lowbrow thinking at its utmost.

The entire plot for Modern Warfare 2 was one big facepalm after another.

Okay, really? People STILL DONT GET IT?

Spoiler

Makarov is a TERRORIST FOR HIRE. Using American weapons and having an American body makes it look like the CIA funded and supported the "No Russian" terrorist attack (which the CIA is actually quite famous for, such as when the CIA supplied arms to Jihadists in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation and death squads in South American countries.). Also, the Russian government is run by the Ultranationalists, the antagonists of CoD4.

My problem with the scenario, and other similar ones, is that there is no way the USSR or any nation that could represent a plausible threat would be able to attack American Soil with any kind of speed. Things like "ACS modules" and "bypassing the American Early Warning system" miss one of the major reasons why the US is such a military power:

We pretty much own the oceans.

See, the US owns all these little islands all through both oceans, as well as maintaining a number of island nations like Guam, Samoa, Puerto Rico, etc... as Territories of the United States.

The thing is that we use these islands for logistics and security. The US having not only a large Navy, but the abillity to keep it constantly supplied and pretty much reach anywhere in the world is one of our major advantages. What's more we prevent other nations from using these same islands, and have made a good portion of the world dependant on the good will of the US when it comes to ocean travel. Allied nations and the UN heavily rely on the US infrastructure for their activities, and this is ALSO why an Embargo from the US is a big deal because we really can police shipping/trade if we choose to do so.... a short version, but that's the basic situation.

Simply put there are security protocols in place, and nobody is going to get a massive navy/military force to the US without it being noticed. Even if some systems were bypassed a bunch of Russians moving enough hardware to successfully give the US a headache from East to West, especially with a fictional "ultra megalomaniac" group in charge, just isn't going to happen.

The US's seperation from the rest of the world by the oceans, is one of the things that makes it so powerful, since the US can project it's power (and has been able to since World War II) but other nations cannot do so feasibly. This is also why those with an eye for such things are concerned about China's naval build up, which is theroized to reach the level of a viable threat to that infrastructure if it continues.

Also one of the things to consider is that Mexico largely acts as a buffer state (like it or not). We'd notice anything big enough to be a threat like this coming in from either ocean, and heading to any nation around here. The thing is though that anyone landing an army south of us is going to probably have to do it in South or Central America, and then get those troops through Mexico, and chances are that means they are going to be engaged there (by us, even if the Mexicans object). Basically they aren't getting onto US soil easily. Even if Canada somehow sold out, again we'd have plenty of warning before enough forces to launch a signifigant invasion could be brought there...

However getting the troops to the American continent isn't the only problem, you've also got to supply them, and that's where the US stranglehold on the oceans comes in. Chances are to launch a viable invasion FIRST someone is going to have to spend years and years fighting the US Navy and digging us out of all those islands, and there goes your "surprise attack".

All these massive military bases we have in places like Japan and Guam are there for a reason, and that's not counting the small little little island set ups we have.

Consider the Cuban Missle Crisis was basically because Russian ships were interdicted on their way to bringing missles into Cuba.... if anything it's gotten much harder since then.

All of that Navy support means nothing when you consider that it was aircraft that invaded the United States. And all of those small islands are great and all except they're all south of the continental United States, doesn't really help when Russia is north of the United States and doesn't have to pass over these islands.

 

[flipsalty]

Bioshock:

Spoiler

Dying causes you to be instantly revived in the nearest VitaChamber, because you are close enough to Andrew Ryan's genetic code and he can use VitaChambers. When he commits suicide-by-player, his personal VitaChamber in his office is off. Presumably this was to make the point that Ryan doesn't give a toss anymore because his city has gone to Hell and there's nothing to be done so he wants to die. However, the game spawns you in the closest nearby VitaChamber. Since that one was off it would just mean he would be routed to the next closest chamber. So obviously Ryan spawned in a chamber just outside his office, then ran away before shit hit the fan with Fontaine.

Tldr: science happened in Bioshock, Andrew Ryan is still alive...?

Good question, and somehow, I never asked myself that until now... three years later...

Andrew Ryan simply turned the vita chambers off, duh, he was going for the brass balls achievement

 

[flipsalty]

4) Because the story of Harvey Dent the man is important to keep hope of a better Gotham alive. Batman 'doesn't exist' and is already considered a vigilante, so he's able to take the heat instead of ruining the legacy of the good Harvey Dent.

And they didn't blame Dent's crimes on the Joker because? ?

I can't think of a good reason; I think this is still a plot hole.

I can answer this one if it hasn't been yet. The Batman is scary because criminals think he kills. However, they've started to figure out that he doesn't actually kill anyone. Therefore, Batman being "responsible" for so many deaths puts that fear back in the criminal element.

I personally have to say (this is from film) the first Transformers film. Where did the police car (I think its Barricade) go? I mean seriously he's there one minute and then...he's gone. Disappeared. For the whole film. Argh!

Bumblebee killed him at the power plant, I think.

No he didnt

 

[flipsalty]

I want to point out the entire plot of CoD:MW2.

Oh, example? Well, the catalyst for the invasion of America is the terrorist attack in a Russian airport where there was one American corpse..... Okay.

To think that Russian security was so lax there that they didn't check the cameras to see who else was involved, or that American intelligencia wouldn't be out there doing a massive CYA job to prevent such an invasion from happening by their fault is lowbrow thinking at its utmost.

The entire plot for Modern Warfare 2 was one big facepalm after another.

Okay, really? People STILL DONT GET IT?

Spoiler

Makarov is a TERRORIST FOR HIRE. Using American weapons and having an American body makes it look like the CIA funded and supported the "No Russian" terrorist attack (which the CIA is actually quite famous for, such as when the CIA supplied arms to Jihadists in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation and death squads in South American countries.). Also, the Russian government is run by the Ultranationalists, the antagonists of CoD4.

Spoiler

My problem with the scenario, and other similar ones, is that there is no way the USSR or any nation that could represent a plausible threat would be able to attack American Soil with any kind of speed. Things like "ACS modules" and "bypassing the American Early Warning system" miss one of the major reasons why the US is such a military power:

We pretty much own the oceans.

See, the US owns all these little islands all through both oceans, as well as maintaining a number of island nations like Guam, Samoa, Puerto Rico, etc... as Territories of the United States.

The thing is that we use these islands for logistics and security. The US having not only a large Navy, but the abillity to keep it constantly supplied and pretty much reach anywhere in the world is one of our major advantages. What's more we prevent other nations from using these same islands, and have made a good portion of the world dependant on the good will of the US when it comes to ocean travel. Allied nations and the UN heavily rely on the US infrastructure for their activities, and this is ALSO why an Embargo from the US is a big deal because we really can police shipping/trade if we choose to do so.... a short version, but that's the basic situation.

Simply put there are security protocols in place, and nobody is going to get a massive navy/military force to the US without it being noticed. Even if some systems were bypassed a bunch of Russians moving enough hardware to successfully give the US a headache from East to West, especially with a fictional "ultra megalomaniac" group in charge, just isn't going to happen.

The US's seperation from the rest of the world by the oceans, is one of the things that makes it so powerful, since the US can project it's power (and has been able to since World War II) but other nations cannot do so feasibly. This is also why those with an eye for such things are concerned about China's naval build up, which is theroized to reach the level of a viable threat to that infrastructure if it continues.

Also one of the things to consider is that Mexico largely acts as a buffer state (like it or not). We'd notice anything big enough to be a threat like this coming in from either ocean, and heading to any nation around here. The thing is though that anyone landing an army south of us is going to probably have to do it in South or Central America, and then get those troops through Mexico, and chances are that means they are going to be engaged there (by us, even if the Mexicans object). Basically they aren't getting onto US soil easily. Even if Canada somehow sold out, again we'd have plenty of warning before enough forces to launch a signifigant invasion could be brought there...

However getting the troops to the American continent isn't the only problem, you've also got to supply them, and that's where the US stranglehold on the oceans comes in. Chances are to launch a viable invasion FIRST someone is going to have to spend years and years fighting the US Navy and digging us out of all those islands, and there goes your "surprise attack".

All these massive military bases we have in places like Japan and Guam are there for a reason, and that's not counting the small little little island set ups we have.

Consider the Cuban Missle Crisis was basically because Russian ships were interdicted on their way to bringing missles into Cuba.... if anything it's gotten much harder since then.

Ugh, wall of completely irrelevant text.

You're overall problem is that you are taking a fucking video game too seriously. This is a video game, not a fucking documentary and not a fucking Pentagon war strategy simulation.

Unlike a documentary or war simulation, players need a certain amount of suspension of belief to play video games. We know that it's impossible for soldiers to heal over time if their not damaged, but we accept that's how it works in the game. We know that soldiers aren't deployed for the sole purpose of capturing an enemy's flag as many times as possible.

Likewise, we know that a Russian invasion of the US is improbable. BUT THAT'S PART OF THE FUN OF A VIDEO GAME. So stop taking a video game so fucking seriously.

Edit: While it's your right to criticize MW2's plot, it's also my right to criticize your opinion.

Why are you getting so bent out of shape when people point out plotholes in a thread about plotholes? Yeah it's quite possible to ignore the plot and enjoy the game despite its glaring flaws, but that's not the point of this thread, is it?

Originally, Johnnyallstar said there was a "plot hole", of which said "plot hole" is (Imo) a matter of his inadequate understanding of the plot (whether it's really a plot hole or not is subjective).

Now, Therumancer isn't pointing out a plot hole, but rather plausibility. There's a difference between a disconnect in plot, and a disconnect in reality, which Therumancer expounded on in a long post, as seen above.

And I'm getting bent out of shape by the apparent bashing of MW2 by people who seem to not fully understand what exactly went on (which is definitely a mistake on part of IW).

Well, my point is that Modern Warfare 2 makes pretensions of being set in reality more or less. It's using real players, and trying to present a "this could happen", "five minutes into the future", type techno-thriller approach.

The issue is that it's using groups like the USA and Russia pretty much as they are now, under the theory of a fanatical goverment taking control of Russia. When the plot doesn't account for key elements of what makes the USA a world power and an enemy to Russia (which
is pretty much reliant on people knowing who/what the US is and can do), you pretty much have to look at all the things they aren't accounting for as plot holes in the story.

Modern Warfare 2 isn't my time of game, I've seen a decent portion of it now, and tinkered with it a bit (but don't own it). I'm not bashing it really, but this subject is on plot holes. Simply put the plot of "America and Russia go to war" is fine, but given the reliance on real world knowlege, how those Russian troops magically get onto American soil and what's more penetrate as far as DC irregardless of the natural barriers making "Fortress America" a pain to invade even if someone was to land (and once they hit the beaches it's no longer a "surprise") represents a major plot hole. Okay the ACS thing they have might have helped with some things, but it wouldn't have accounted for everything. Heck if these guys are landing on either coast they are going to have to basically contend with armed civilians in swamps and mountains along with national guard and everything else. They aren't getting to DC in a hurry. Living here in peace time doesn't do justice to the experience of what it would be like to fight through some of this, especially if a lot of the bridges and stuff people use casually nowadays were knocked down intentionally. Let's just say I wouldn't want to be the guy tasked with trying to get through the Appalacian Mountains, you think our troops in Afghanistan have a problem...

I'm rambling again, but I think it's a fair criticism.

Now if you want to get technical almost everything has plot holes, even "Citizen Kane". As Spider Robinson explained, if a certain important character died alone (important plot point) how did anyone hear his final words (another important plot point).... Some things are tighter than others, but I haven't found anything I could consider truely airtight.

I just personally think Modern Warfare 2 is one of the biggest WELL KNOWN plot train wrecks out there. I could probably pick apart anything (I did this because others nmentioned it), although truthfully the worst offenders would probably be obscure games that few people would have heard of because of how bad they were.

The Russians parachuted in, they didn't land on the shores.

 

[Therumancer]

All of that Navy support means nothing when you consider that it was aircraft that invaded the United States. And all of those small islands are great and all except they're all south of the continental United States, doesn't really help when Russia is north of the United States and doesn't have to pass over these islands.

Planes have to land for fueling and such, which is why things like Aircraft Carriers and/or island bases are important.

Also we *DO* possess a lot of islands and territories between here and Russia, jockeying for position is what "The Cold War" was all about. We were winning it by leaps and bounds too, which is part of what caused the USSR to collapse, though there were a lot of factors.

The straw that broke the Camel's back so to speak was "Desert Storm" which was pretty much the US Vs. USSR junior. The USSR was backing Saddam and had trained and equipped his guys. The US was by and large behind not only it's own forces, but the allied nations as well. So basically what we got to see was USSR tech vs. American tech, and Russian training vs. American training. What some expected would be an epic battle, turned into a massive slaughter, largely because the USSR was lying about what it could do, and assumed we were doing the same, when we understated things. We were also pretty confident of this because we pretty much reamed them a new one on the espionage/black ops front as well and they knew pretty much only what we wanted them to know.

With the economy and everything else, this demonstration of the goverment's lies, and ineffectiveness of the USSR military the people sacrificed everything for because "it was the best" caused a massive loss of faith.

The relevence of this is pretty much that when the USSR collapsed the US pretty much took everything we wanted to be on the safe side. This is also one of the big issues right now with the current Russia... when the USSR collapsed we started ignoring Cold War treaties over things like missle defense technologies and the like, as well as where we would place troops.

During the whole "Georgia" thing this sort of came to a head because we put a missle defense base in Poland. Russia was blowing a gasket about it and actually suggesting it might nuke Poland over it, and I believe that even though it was an interception base it was being compared to a "reverse Cuban missle crisis" by some at the time. The big complaint being that peace is maintained by MAD, but given the USA's abillity to intercept missles nowadays putting a base right there would limit the abillity to fire missles into allied European countries, or wind them intercontentally. Both sides having a "clear shot" for MAD being sort of the intent of some of those treaties, that compared with all of the territory we more or less took over/fortified, makes Russia feel a bit hedged in (which they are).

I can agree that the whole idea of MW 2's "Ultranationalist" party is fairly realistic, we already see stuff like that going on down there. However part of the entire reason why such people are so vocal is because of the very fact that such an attack would be impractical even if someone was to disable our *ahem* "Early Warning System". Russia is a major power and a potential threat, but it's not anything like it was in the USSR days because of actions taken to prevent that, and they miss being taken that seriously.

 

[Therumancer]

The Russians parachuted in, they didn't land on the shores.

... and how pray tell did they managed to keep all of those planes fueled to pretty much get from one end of the world to another with enough troops to make a differance?

Simply put they would have needed to take over a number of islands and brought in carriers in order to do that, and they still probably would have needed a beach head to boot.

Truthfully I think the Coast Guard alone would have done a massive job on them without one.

From what I've seen of MW2, the entire thing seems to revolve around this ACS system and the idea that with this one mystical device, and a total lack of common sense or additional security, Russia is basically able to disable all of the defenses of the US and somehow magically get troops from one end of the globe to the other without anyone in between here and there noticing, and penetrate all the way to the US Capitol....

Stop and think about this for a second.

They wouldn't be in it alone, of course, but consider that we have an entire branch of the military that uses rather large and heavily armed cutters, and other sea faring craft, combined with helicopters and an aviation division, to patrol the waters around the US. The Coast Guard, acts as police, rescue, and is tasked with Homeland security. Even if one was to argue that our Satellites and such were offline, someone moving these massive clouds of planes which are probably reliant on aircraft carriers close enough to the US to land Paratroopers is *not* going to be unnoticed. Oh sure, in a pitched battle a couple dedicated task forces of the Russian Navy and Airforce would decimate the US Coast Guard... well unless of course they aren't going to bother even hitting the beaches or something dumb like that.. I mean the Coasties aren't intended for that kind of engagement. One thing that they would do is prevent a surprise attack of this sort (which is part of the point) and they could make themselves a bit annoying to deal with while the real military got involved.

Or to put things into perspective, simply using where I live in Connecticut as an example. We have a Coast Guard Academy, and a Naval Submarine base. If something like that happened off our coast line, I sort of think they would talk to each other. There is going to be a fight. The same is probably going to apply to just about any other coastal area/state.

... and that's kind of ridiculous too, because again, I don't think they'd get accross all that ocean unopposed or unseen.

 

[Dancingman]

I want to point out the entire plot of CoD:MW2.

Oh, example? Well, the catalyst for the invasion of America is the terrorist attack in a Russian airport where there was one American corpse..... Okay.

To think that Russian security was so lax there that they didn't check the cameras to see who else was involved, or that American intelligencia wouldn't be out there doing a massive CYA job to prevent such an invasion from happening by their fault is lowbrow thinking at its utmost.

The entire plot for Modern Warfare 2 was one big facepalm after another.

Okay, really? People STILL DONT GET IT?

Spoiler

Makarov is a TERRORIST FOR HIRE. Using American weapons and having an American body makes it look like the CIA funded and supported the "No Russian" terrorist attack (which the CIA is actually quite famous for, such as when the CIA supplied arms to Jihadists in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation and death squads in South American countries.). Also, the Russian government is run by the Ultranationalists, the antagonists of CoD4.

Spoiler

My problem with the scenario, and other similar ones, is that there is no way the USSR or any nation that could represent a plausible threat would be able to attack American Soil with any kind of speed. Things like "ACS modules" and "bypassing the American Early Warning system" miss one of the major reasons why the US is such a military power:

We pretty much own the oceans.

See, the US owns all these little islands all through both oceans, as well as maintaining a number of island nations like Guam, Samoa, Puerto Rico, etc... as Territories of the United States.

The thing is that we use these islands for logistics and security. The US having not only a large Navy, but the abillity to keep it constantly supplied and pretty much reach anywhere in the world is one of our major advantages. What's more we prevent other nations from using these same islands, and have made a good portion of the world dependant on the good will of the US when it comes to ocean travel. Allied nations and the UN heavily rely on the US infrastructure for their activities, and this is ALSO why an Embargo from the US is a big deal because we really can police shipping/trade if we choose to do so.... a short version, but that's the basic situation.

Simply put there are security protocols in place, and nobody is going to get a massive navy/military force to the US without it being noticed. Even if some systems were bypassed a bunch of Russians moving enough hardware to successfully give the US a headache from East to West, especially with a fictional "ultra megalomaniac" group in charge, just isn't going to happen.

The US's seperation from the rest of the world by the oceans, is one of the things that makes it so powerful, since the US can project it's power (and has been able to since World War II) but other nations cannot do so feasibly. This is also why those with an eye for such things are concerned about China's naval build up, which is theroized to reach the level of a viable threat to that infrastructure if it continues.

Also one of the things to consider is that Mexico largely acts as a buffer state (like it or not). We'd notice anything big enough to be a threat like this coming in from either ocean, and heading to any nation around here. The thing is though that anyone landing an army south of us is going to probably have to do it in South or Central America, and then get those troops through Mexico, and chances are that means they are going to be engaged there (by us, even if the Mexicans object). Basically they aren't getting onto US soil easily. Even if Canada somehow sold out, again we'd have plenty of warning before enough forces to launch a signifigant invasion could be brought there...

However getting the troops to the American continent isn't the only problem, you've also got to supply them, and that's where the US stranglehold on the oceans comes in. Chances are to launch a viable invasion FIRST someone is going to have to spend years and years fighting the US Navy and digging us out of all those islands, and there goes your "surprise attack".

All these massive military bases we have in places like Japan and Guam are there for a reason, and that's not counting the small little little island set ups we have.

Consider the Cuban Missle Crisis was basically because Russian ships were interdicted on their way to bringing missles into Cuba.... if anything it's gotten much harder since then.

Ugh, wall of completely irrelevant text.

You're overall problem is that you are taking a fucking video game too seriously. This is a video game, not a fucking documentary and not a fucking Pentagon war strategy simulation.

Unlike a documentary or war simulation, players need a certain amount of suspension of belief to play video games. We know that it's impossible for soldiers to heal over time if their not damaged, but we accept that's how it works in the game. We know that soldiers aren't deployed for the sole purpose of capturing an enemy's flag as many times as possible.

Likewise, we know that a Russian invasion of the US is improbable. BUT THAT'S PART OF THE FUN OF A VIDEO GAME. So stop taking a video game so fucking seriously.

Edit: While it's your right to criticize MW2's plot, it's also my right to criticize your opinion.

You seem to be taking his being too serious too seriously, stop whining and clean up your language, honestly do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

Oh, "stop whining and clean up your language"... totally relevant and mature answers.

And really? "OMG U SAID FUCK ON THE INTERNET!!!" I'm just going to quote Yathzee:

"Mailbag Showdown" Video, 1:07-1:13

By the way, it's alright to swear on the internet, your mum probably isn't going to read it. I know, because she's too busy being fucked by me.

Ah, quoting some other person's amusing joke, yeah no, sorry, I'm not going to retreat into my room put my head on my pillow and cry. Also, I would hardly call myself someone with Puritanical values who can't hear a swear without wincing, I just figure dropping an f-bomb every odd sentence or so doesn't make your argument look any more reasonable or good. Also, in response to cussing being an "internet" thing, that's true, but it's also a Tu Quoque fallacy, just because other people are doing it doesn't mean its completely acceptable.

 

[Truehare]

Dead Space had a pretty unforgivable one.

Spoiler

If Isaac possessed any intelligence at all he could have just looked at the first letter of every chatper to see that "NICOLE IS DEAD" instead of being surprised by it later.

Fool.

Ummm...
The chapter titles were for the player's benefit, not Isaac's.
All Isaac was seeing on those screens was "medical ward" or "engineering" or whatever.
What ship would actually put up chapter titles?

Anyway... the worst plot hole I've encountered?
Sorry, I don't know how to use the spoiler code, so just stop reading here.

After you finish the main quest in Oblivion, you literally leave the entire place without an Emperor, or any heirs to speak of. This wouldn't be much of a problem, except that up to that point, the game keeps selling you on the idea that the royal blood line is needed to preserve the magical barriers between Tamriel and Oblivion. Well, by the end of the game, Martin, the last remnant of the royal bloodline sacrifices himself to kill Mehrunes Dagon. Trouble is... now that the bloodline is gone forever, what's to stop the Daedra from launching another invasion?

For the record, I never finished Oblivion (didn't like the game that much), so I don't know the details, but I guess we'll know the answer to that in The Elder Scrolls V... That doesn't sound so much like a plot hole, more like a cliffhanger.

(In a totally unrelated note, I don't believe you guys are still going on about MW2...)

 

[Truehare]

The ending in Watchmen.

Spoiler

How is it that the most powerful American weapon (and basically middle finger to the entire world for decades) going berseker and killing millions of people all over the world is supposed to make people come together in world peace instead of blaming America for unleashing a god upon them

Thats why the comic book makes so much more sense... Although I uderstand how impossible it would be to

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weave all the details of Veidt's plan leading up to the "alien invasion maneuver" into the movie without making it an hour longer...

Pity... I would have loved to see the first pages of Watchmen 12 come to life...

EDIT: Yeah, I know, double post, sorry about that...