Nylis said:
gjendemsjo said:
He's a troll at times, just watch some of his Game overthinker episodes where he says that Halo is shit and everyone who plays Halo is an idiot and how everyone who enjoys realistic games are idiots and so on.
These people are just mad because of Bob's "hurtful insult". You'd think with all the time they spend on internet forums and listening to Yahtzee's reviews they'd be immune to things like this.
You'd think so but no. The main reason is that Bob's verbal attacks on Halo are far more hurtful than Yahtzee's because his are more 'serious'.
With Yahtzee, everything's a joke. He gets a game, makes some criticisms and uses witty metaphors to make his video a five minute joke and because he pretty much makes fun of every game franchise known to man, including ones he himself likes, it doesn't give off an impression that he is biased against Halo or its fanbase. They are just another in a long line of games and people associated with games waiting for a spoofing.
With Bob though, he doesn't
joke about the Halo community, he just
insults it. He doesn't end it with a ba-dum-tish (and if he does it's usually at the end of a really mean joke) he just bluntly says it. He more or less declares loudly that Halo is the worst thing ever invented and whenever he gets the chance, no matter how irrelevant to the subject matter, he goes out and says it. Take a look at the Nightmare on Elm Street review and ask yourself if that tidbit about Halo at the end was in any way needed or if he could just finish the review after he was done talking about the actual
movie?
Instead he ended with a mocking of Halo and that became all that was discussed in the comment page. I myself got caught up in it myself and I'm not proud of that fact but I can't deny it either.
The thing is, for a guy claiming to 'not care' about Halo, he sure does mention it a lot. He made it number 1 in games not to be filmed and every single person saw that coming a mile and a half away because he can't help himself but bash Halo every oppuruntity he gets.
And like I said, it's not so much in the context of a joke as it is in just plain insults. 'Halo is a series famed for being badly designed and poorly plotted'. 'The only way we could make a good Halo movie would be if Halo fans hated it'.
His insults are so blunt you even find people who hate Halo sighing in disdain.
Not just that, he's hypocritical. Say what you will about Yahtzee but when the guy decides he hates/likes a certain aspect of gaming, he sticks with it. He never goes back on his own statements and praises one game for, say, over-the-top gore but then insults another for the same reason. In all reviews of gory games that I've personally seen Yahtzee do, he is always negative about it or at least sighs about it dismissively.
Bob meanwhile, goes back on so many of his statements as another opportunity to bash Halo arises.
For instance, in his Avatar review and most other subsequent reviews Bob makes a point to address the issue that in this modern day of storytelling it is impossible to avoid some form of cliche in story telling and when it comes right down to it there are only so many versions of so many stories that exist in the world and some are bound to be similar. So blaming Avatar for having a similar plot to Pocahontas shouldn't be a big deal.
Then we hear him respond to Halo with a:
"Halo is essentially the same plot as Starship Troopers with no originality or new ideas thrown in. Just a bunch of standard sci fi conventions and cliche plotting."
He
breaks his own rules and doesn't practice what he preaches just to mock Halo.
In other examples he dedicates a good portion of his Halo Legends review to complaining about how Halo is obsessed with high end machismo and then goes on a random tangent in the A-team review to praise the machismo in 'Smokin' Aces' and even suggests in his 'film these games' piece that on the basis of its machismo status, Gears of War should totally be made into a movie.
But the worst of all, for me anyway, is how he responded in his Halo Legends review. Even though he ultimately gave it a positive review he spent almost the
whole damn thing insulting Halo and the fanbase with a fierce, foaming mouth excitement like he had been waiting for this opportunity for God knows how long.
So apart from demonstrating a complete bias or lack of foreknowledge about the franchise except for the bare minimum (he knows about Masterchief, Spartans, the Covenant and what a Brute is. That's about it) he then proceeds to believe that this is all he needs to know and unwittingly makes himself look the fool by praising how much of an insult this is to the franchise to add female Spartans to the mix.
Unaware that every Halo fan has known about there being female Spartans since the book 'the Fall of Reach' came out. He also claims Homecoming is the best because it 'undermined' the franchise by showing the dark side of the Spartan Project.
Unaware that this is known by Halo fans as well.
But the worst thing about it was how he was constantly maintaining that anything that the fanbase
doesn't like about Legends is a point in its favor. First suggesting that this means he genuienly thinks that the Halo community are unintelligent and second that he thinks that for reasons unknown, they deserve to have their beloved franchise messed up and that he has earned the right to mock them in the process.
That it's only good because it 'undermines' the franchise and pisses off the fanbase and that the Halo Community are totally being whiny babies crying about how their favorite 'spaece marien shooter gaem' is being ruined by people who don't understand the subject matter.
Apparently forgetting that he himself once dedicated an entire review to complaining about how Michael Bay ruined his beloved eighties toy commercial cartoons about morphing car robots. But of course that's not Halo so that's totally different and he had a right to be mad about what Mr. Bay did to his Transformers but the Halo community they should totally shut up and stop whining about how the Japanese are destroying their favorite game franchise.
Honestly, all that blunt insulting, double standards and plain lack of restraint
seriously piss me off in a way that Yahtzee never could. Just to make it clear I still like his videos, I find them funny and well thought out and usually informative about movies and in fact if it hadn't been for him I would never have discovered some truly great obscure classics out there like Ginger Snaps and Six String Samurai.
But still every time he has a mean insult for Halo to deliver and then follows it up with a picture of that smiling yellow face I just want to punch him.
OT: Yes I agree with Bob that the movie looked like crap in all ways possible but is my above rant was any indication, I don't like how he insults people. I say blame the lack of publicity for Scott Pilgrim and the fact that it was principally made to appeal to a smaller audience then the Expendables was. You don't have to refer to people watching it as 'sheep'.
