Moviebob's Text Review of Batman v Superman and oh boy he is ANGRY!!!

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He's very much on record as disliking Frank Miller and the Death of Superman and the gritty superhero style and Man of Steel and a general hatred for comic book movies for the sake of studios rather than the sake of celebrating and exploring the characters so...

Shock, he hates this film. Everyone seems to be disliking it so far and Bob's pretty guaranteed to hate it more than most other reviewers because he really cares about them being good plus he's just generally the ranter type.

People generally call him a DC-hater but I don't see it personally.
 

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undeadsuitor said:
Honestly, weren't Moviebob's long winded nonsensical whiny rants his most popular videos when he was here?
I don't know, he didn't used to do those kinds of videos. I always watched him because he could actually provide some very insightful reviews while conveying the information in such a way that the average movie goer could follow his thought process. From what I saw of the forums during his reviews, the more and more whiny he got, the less people liked him. Then again, his ranting must have gotten him more views since that seems to be his thing now.
 

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The internet loves a good rant and over-reaction to something. Just look at some popular YouTube channels. I Hate Everything, Your Movie Sucks, Channel Awesome(kinda), Jim Sterling, A Dose of Buckley, and quite a few others. All have over four hundred thousand subscribers and get a large amount of views on every video.

Bob's most likely trying to hit up that market. He may actually be mad about it, but saying "the movie is the biggest disappointment of my life and needs to die in a fire" will attract more clicks than "this movie was a disappointment."
One of those things you mentioned is not like the other, and not only in the sense of not even having said 400k subscribers. Those others I can agree being mostly just about hating on things or overreacting, but not in the case of YMS. I admit to being a subscriber of his, but he is genuinely one of the most thoughtful, knowledgeable, insightful and fair film critics out there, at least on Youtube. And unlike nearly any other "internet reviewer", he actively makes an effort to remove himself from whatever hype may surround the film, his personal nostalgia or preferences, and just look at the films with unclouded eyes.

OT: Well, who'da guessed? Honestly, I rather enjoyed Bob's content during his run here, but seeing the state he is in now makes me question the soundness of his mind in retrospect. There was always a touch of the "lonely nerd who got bullied in high school" in there, but not to the extent where it started to actively bother me (having lived in part through similar experiences may have helped). But since he went off on his own he seems to have lost all restraint when it comes to reviewing stuff he feels passionately about (ie. "Marvel and Nintendo are awesome, grimdark stuff sucks, 80s were the best in everything" etc.). Plus, his series "Really That Good" on Youtube seems just to be an excuse to indulge himself in nostalgia for hours on end.
 

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Eh, I was actually enjoying the review ... until I noticed it was only about halfway through. Don't get me wrong, I quite like angry rants, but a rant that's this angry, this long, and sped up to the point that it's this dense, well, I can barely keep up with what exactly he's even angry about at any given time.

I was ready to return to this thread and question why people felt his review was petulant, but overblown nerd rage began to try my patience by the end. That's the thing about MovieBob, it's kind of hard to tell what extent it's all an act.
 

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bartholen said:
Elfgore said:
The internet loves a good rant and over-reaction to something. Just look at some popular YouTube channels. I Hate Everything, Your Movie Sucks, Channel Awesome(kinda), Jim Sterling, A Dose of Buckley, and quite a few others. All have over four hundred thousand subscribers and get a large amount of views on every video.

Bob's most likely trying to hit up that market. He may actually be mad about it, but saying "the movie is the biggest disappointment of my life and needs to die in a fire" will attract more clicks than "this movie was a disappointment."
One of those things you mentioned is not like the other, and not only in the sense of not even having said 400k subscribers. Those others I can agree being mostly just about hating on things or overreacting, but not in the case of YMS. I admit to being a subscriber of his, but he is genuinely one of the most thoughtful, knowledgeable, insightful and fair film critics out there, at least on Youtube.
Oh shit, he doesn't. Maybe I just said what I think his subscriber count should at least look like. Very recent fan of his and just binge-watched all of his stuff, so I'm not trying to debase him. I agree with everything you've said about him, but he does the same thing as everyone else in his main and most popular series. He spends thirty minutes to an hour shitting on a single film. Everything he says is valid criticism, but it is still just him completely destroying a film in a negative manner. Though again all of his criticisms are again valid, he focuses on the most tiniest of details to harp on because it is funny. He rides the same angry person train as the rest of them, he just does it in a more critical manner.
 

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bartholen said:
Elfgore said:
but since he went off on his own he seems to have lost all restraint when it comes to reviewing stuff he feels passionately about (ie. "Marvel and Nintendo are awesome, grimdark stuff sucks, 80s were the best in everything" etc.). Plus, his series "Really That Good" on Youtube seems just to be an excuse to indulge himself in nostalgia for hours on end.
Those moments were always there, even before he started on Screw Attack or The Escapists when he was on YouTube. It just got worse as the years went by. His fame doesn't really matters at this point, because his career is deader than disco. He may have some harcore fans left here and there, but the majority of internet considers him a joke. His attitude is pretty much the same of why I stopped watching most of the Channel Awesome (formerly That Guy With The Glasses) stuff in 2013. Nostalgia Critc, Spoony (abandoned him years ago), and most other contributors on the site either got too preachy and talked down on anyone that had different opinions than them, or their shows became boring.
 

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Edit: His video review is up.


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I also remember him liking Man of Steel only marginally better than Transformers, a movie he still seems to be finding ways to rant about even years after the fact.
He actually said a lot of good things about it in his review of the film. Basically he said that every was there was something just didn't feel right. I can sympathize because there's a lot of stuff like that. I felt the same way about Inception and Bioshock Infinite - felt good while it was going, despite the missteps, but once you start thinking about it they really start to fall apart. He eventually put it on his list of worst films of 2013, but he stated that it wasn't because it was bad but because it was the most disappointing film of the year.

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Yet he still placed Man of Steel 1# is his top 10 worst movies list of 2013.
Quoting because I just addressed this point before I even read your post.

Context.
Then he should have placed Man of Steel in a top 10 most dissipointing movies of 2013, not Worse.

Even Angry Joe seperates Worse and Dissipointing games.
 

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Wow, in lieu of discussion of the actual review I'm instead seeing a lot of personal attacks on Bob, stay classy guys. Anyway I quite enjoyed his rant, if even half of the main plot as described there is true, then this movie deserves everything he can throw at it and more. Of course, since I don't like the whole grimdark thing DC has been doing, I probably wouldn't have seen the movie anyways. I suppose that makes me a Marvel Fanboy....Anyways, gonna try to put the unpleasantness of this thread out of my mind and go watch a good movie. Maybe a Marvel one.....
In the defense of the people in the thread, Bob spent a great deal of videos (at least five I can recall from The Escapist) insulting everyone who dared think the reviewed movie was decent. Multiple times asking people who watched them to stop driving cars, voting, and basically to kill themselves. Consider it playing on his court.

I could forgive that stuff if he didn't take a tanker full of gasoline and dump it on the GamerGate fire. Hard to rebuke people sending death and rape threats when Bob is telling people to kill themselves and that "there are no bad tactics, just bad targets".
 

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so, WB made another shitty comic book movie and a nerd is getting ranty about it?

explain to me why this matters past 'he is a former content creator for the site' cause i'd love to hear why this needed any extra attention at all
 

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Lunar Templar said:
so, WB made another shitty comic book movie and a nerd is getting ranty about it?

explain to me why this matters past 'he is a former content creator for the site' cause i'd love to hear why this needed any extra attention at all
Because he's one of the internet's biggest punching bags.
 

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Lunar Templar said:
so, WB made another shitty comic book movie and a nerd is getting ranty about it?

explain to me why this matters past 'he is a former content creator for the site' cause i'd love to hear why this needed any extra attention at all
Because he's one of the internet's biggest punching bags.
I'd rather such rage go toward some one/thing more deserving then some fat, ranty movie critic.

like, say Digital Homicide, and shit vendors like them.
 

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Lunar Templar said:
CoCage said:
Lunar Templar said:
so, WB made another shitty comic book movie and a nerd is getting ranty about it?

explain to me why this matters past 'he is a former content creator for the site' cause i'd love to hear why this needed any extra attention at all
Because he's one of the internet's biggest punching bags.
I'd rather such rage go toward some one/thing more deserving then some fat, ranty movie critic.

like, say Digital Homicide, and shit vendors like them.
True to an extent. I hate Digital Homicide as well. Honestly those two are not so different. They are both selfish, whiny, hypocritical jerks, who can't take criticism or hate anyone that contradicts them. When you starting to make people like Jack Thompson (one of The internet's/gaming biggest dart board of hate) look somewhat sane by comparison, then you know there are some serious problems.
 

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I watched MB's review, I haven't seen the movie (and don't plan to, depending on the blu-ray review). Granted his criticisms are more vitriolic, but they are on par with what other movie reviewers are saying about it. From what I have seen in some posts here, people are disagreeing with MB's style of reviews, not the review itself.

As a side note, I wonder if Snyder (or an unnamed WB exec) are planning a lengthy and snarky counterattack to all the bad reviews. I also wonder how many negative YouTube review videos will find themselves targets of DMCA takedowns.
 

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I'll be honest, reading that is an exercise in giving me a migraine, and quite easily. It hurts me to know that shit writing like that can be passed of as any form of valid review or journalism.
Ranting isn't the issue, its the lack of any actual structure and the overuse of descriptive terms. The headache-inducing run-on sentences.
If I were a patron of his work, I'd easily cancel any further funds to that. I expect better from Bob, even if I'm not a fan of his work. Its just low quality work, and its extremely disappointing.
I don't hate his work either, I just stopped caring about it after he departed from Escapist. Unlike LRR, who I still follow, he just didn't garner enough love from me to follow him. Partially due to what I saw as a degeneration of his work ethic, instead of giving a smart analysis of the work he devolved into being pissed off and ranting without much in the way of structure. Instead of intelligent teardowns we get pedantic rants punctuated with smart language that only comes off as a mask for the drop in quality of content.
If its intentional, its still a drop from his original format and quality and I'm not sold on it. I much prefer the smarter analysis of our "new" reviewer, Marter.
Leave the sarcastic coarse uber-nerdy reviews to Yahtzee. At least he's got the skill to make it interesting.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
I felt this way when he reviewed Pixels. Especially how insulting he was the the audiance who did watch this movie to fuck themselves.
One of his most popular post-escapist videos. Do yo not see the irony of saying "that's not how I want my Moviebob reviews?"
 

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Something Amyss said:
Samtemdo8 said:
I felt this way when he reviewed Pixels. Especially how insulting he was the the audiance who did watch this movie to fuck themselves.
One of his most popular post-escapist videos. Do yo not see the irony of saying "that's not how I want my Moviebob reviews?"
He has reviewed like this even on the Escapist.

You do remember the whole The Expendables fiasco right and I was not even in the forums but read the comments.

And Transformers 2, And Green Lantern, and others.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Then he should have placed Man of Steel in a top 10 most disappointing movies of 2013, not worst.
Just as I did not judge your list of which Marvel movies are best and why, I am going to suggest that the person making the list gets the right to define the terms and conditions which make a movie worse than another.