Movies where the 'bad guy' wins (spoilers be warned)

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Samoftherocks

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daegranos said:
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The original "The Vanishing"....man finds kidnapper of his girlfriend, wants to know how he did it, agrees to be blindfolded and then shown how.......he wakes up buried alive in a coffin. Oh hell yeah, the bad guy won...
i never knew that the original material (the book "The golden egg") was made into a movie.
but yeah, the bad guy won in every single way (noone knowing that it was him and even got the protagonist killed).
Seriously...very creepy. Claustrophobia is a nemesis of mine, so that movie was particularly scary.
 

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"Brazil". Although I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't yet seen it. It's a fantastic film, extraordinarily dystopian movie from Terry Gilliam. Think Monty Python meets 1984, gets drunk and they go for a curry with Blade Runner.
One of my favorite movies. Glad I didn't have to scroll down too far to see it mentioned. Of course Universal spurned Gilliam's curse by making film a happy Hollywood ending too but I will not speak of it further.

I would also like to add another Gilliam masterpiece: 12 Monkeys

Also to not spoil anything a good number of the Harry Potter books/movies end with the bad guy winning, I wont say which ones.

also
The Big Lebowski
Pump up the Volume

All favorites of mine actually "I guess I'm a pretty sick guy."
 

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C Lion said:
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Reillk said:
Not counting the sequels of Evil Dead, just the first one. I'm talking about the Phantasm movies retconning. They always change the ending in the sequel so the heroes get away, when they died in the previous movie.
Ok then, but you still didn't explain what "retconning" was.
A retroactive continuity change.
Thank you.

Just out of curiosity, does that exclude things like the beginning of Alien 3? Where it happens at the beginning of the next movie but still changes how the situation stood at the end of the last one.

AlphaOmega said:
I'm surprised it took so long for someone to say that, I just assumed everyone else thought the
10,000 or (however many there were) guys coming back meant that the Spartans technically won.
of course, I don't consider that a win really, more of an avenging.

Cortheya said:
1984 the bad guy wins and in the last hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy book they win
And that's why I always stop reading at book three or four now.
 

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The main one that springs to mind is Funny Games. There is just nothing given to the audience in the way of hope or relief throughout that entire film.
Oh god, the memories.

Awful, horrible film. Very very good film, but horrible anyway. Don't want to sit through it again if I can help it :x

And yeah, that's about the ultimate example of "Bad guys win".
 

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I think that some of the Kubrick movies are technically "Evil Wins". But besides that - Brazil.
 

AkJay

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Choas Theory, I think that's it, with Jason Stathom. I'de rather not ruin it with spoilers, so try and see it for yourself =P
 

Teh Ty

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The only movie I can really think of is Cloverfield. Because the monster kills all the main characters, or so we think.
 

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Maurauth said:
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debateable
not really, i mean yeah the villan dies at the end, but think of what he does to the protaganist.

protaganist is: kidnapped for years kept in a room and gassed when they give him food, then dumped onto a roof in a suitcase, has to fight quite alot of people, then is told that he been comitting incest unwittingly with his daughter which leads him to cut his own tounge out with scissors, infornt of the villan no less.

if thats not a win for evil then i dont really know what is
Well it depends upon whether you believe that the hypnosis at the end worked or not. If it did then he's still got Mi-do and doesn't know the truth, and the only man out to get him is dead.

Also consider the fact that Oh Dae-su isn't exactly a saint himself.
mind you even if the hypnosis did work out he still doesnt have a tounge. the fact that he has to get himself re-hypnotised at the end to stop himself from going totally insane is, i think, kind of telling you that he been done over
 

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not sure if this counts but "requem of a dream" if you consider the drug addictions as evil winning
 

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Not sure if it's been said as I really don't wanna read through 5 pages right now, but Watchmen ended up with the bad guy winning. Technically it was a "good" ending in the greater scheme, but it was the plot of the bad guy.
 

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The Dark Knight The Godfather (pretty much has no good guys) Star Wars Episodes 5 and 3 and I would say Sweeney Todd(awesome movie) but the ending is not really all that bad when you think about it
 

Calopolis

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Hannibal, In the film he doesn't totally win, but doesn't exactly lose.
In the book he wins all over.
 

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hypercube said:
"Brazil". Although I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't yet seen it. It's a fantastic film, extraordinarily dystopian movie from Terry Gilliam. Think Monty Python meets 1984, gets drunk and they go for a curry with Blade Runner.
Wonderful movie, so beautiful and bleak.

The ending really got me because
you get the fake 'happy' ending first, only to have your relief smashed to pieces
 

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Well, Princess Bride. And you should know why. :p

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! Then we figure out that Westly (or whatever his name is) was a good guy, then he wins in the end.
 

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Calopolis said:
Hannibal, In the film he doesn't totally win, but doesn't exactly lose.
In the book he wins all over.
The film ending was pretty terrible compared to the original, IMO.