The irony demonstrated here and in many other posts in this thread is astounding.silver wolf009 said:
my mom HATES violent video games
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I recommend that you add a new element to your arguments. It is called emotion, it is an excellent tool for 'guilt-tripping'. What you need to do is have another discussion with her about it (keep it civil) but whenever she says anything like 'You're too young' or something which is an over-simplified version of an actual issue that may or may not exist in your case, turn it all into a personal attack at yourself (she says 'You're too young', you say 'Are you implying that my opinion is invalid merely because of my age, despite the fact that I am more mature than many adults?'). Anyways, you do things like that, and if your mother is a 'heart' person (as opposed to a 'logic' person) then it will make your arguments carry more weight by making her feel more wrong (as in, your arguments won't seem more right, but her guilt and the way in which she appears to be hurting you emotionally will make her feel more wrong).
Well, I never had that problem, I was about 7-8 when I started playing violen games, today I'm 16. And before that I saw violent movies, like The Terminator^^ In fact, she was quite intrested in some of the games O.O! Guess I'm lucky
However, I don't think you could fight your mom on this, them parents can be quite stubborn...
However, I don't think you could fight your mom on this, them parents can be quite stubborn...
My future sister in law gets around this by watching other people play in Youtube videos. She's 12 but she only has a DS. I admit she doesn't get picked on by her friends for not playing 'M' rated games, but she likes to know what goes on so she can hold her own in the conversation. I would say it was pretty sad, but it's also pretty smart.
If you're suffering because you can't play multiplayer... then I wouldn't recommend you go on XBL anyway. What violence and vulgarity is in the content of the game does not compare to some of the spew that comes out other people's mouths. I hate microphones. It might even be better if they weren't practically chewing on them while they were screaming obscenities. Then at least I'd be able to decipher what they were saying in their hormonal rage, lol.
I was allowed to play 'M' rated games for as long as I can remember. It didn't really bother me as my parents were pretty easy going. I still went out and played with friends. Still did my school work. To be fair, they knew I was mature enough not to copy what I saw in games:
1) I do not own a gun or any such weapons.
2) I do not possess any superpowers.
So for me to copy what I saw was near enough impossible. I used to watch WWE and that got me in trouble a couple of times. Never games though. But at least I wasn't on the streets drinking from bottles of Strongbow and getting women pregnant. I waited until I got to my final year of university before I did that.
Coincidentally, I wasn't really playing any video games at that time. Woe! If only I'd be tearing someone limb from limb in a video game, I probably would still have all my free time to myself instead of looking after an 8 month old girl!
If you're suffering because you can't play multiplayer... then I wouldn't recommend you go on XBL anyway. What violence and vulgarity is in the content of the game does not compare to some of the spew that comes out other people's mouths. I hate microphones. It might even be better if they weren't practically chewing on them while they were screaming obscenities. Then at least I'd be able to decipher what they were saying in their hormonal rage, lol.
I was allowed to play 'M' rated games for as long as I can remember. It didn't really bother me as my parents were pretty easy going. I still went out and played with friends. Still did my school work. To be fair, they knew I was mature enough not to copy what I saw in games:
1) I do not own a gun or any such weapons.
2) I do not possess any superpowers.
So for me to copy what I saw was near enough impossible. I used to watch WWE and that got me in trouble a couple of times. Never games though. But at least I wasn't on the streets drinking from bottles of Strongbow and getting women pregnant. I waited until I got to my final year of university before I did that.
Coincidentally, I wasn't really playing any video games at that time. Woe! If only I'd be tearing someone limb from limb in a video game, I probably would still have all my free time to myself instead of looking after an 8 month old girl!
I think I can explain why she took it away:
Now, you can wax lyrical about how you don't HAVE to kill anyone, or the plot, or anything, but when a parent sees THAT level they will freak out. Any parent. They don't want their kids seeing that sort of thing at such a young age, even if you do have an APPARENT IQ of 134.
You're 13, play Sonic Adventure, play with your dog and go on a paper-route. When you hit 17 you can start gunning down innocent people.
In one level you play as a Terrorist and gun down innocent civilians as they cry desperately for mercy
Now, you can wax lyrical about how you don't HAVE to kill anyone, or the plot, or anything, but when a parent sees THAT level they will freak out. Any parent. They don't want their kids seeing that sort of thing at such a young age, even if you do have an APPARENT IQ of 134.
You're 13, play Sonic Adventure, play with your dog and go on a paper-route. When you hit 17 you can start gunning down innocent people.
Guys a lot of you are still saying that shes saying no as a matter of maturity but that isn't it as she has said multiple times that she believes and knows that it wouldn't damage me and that I'm mature enough to play it. Also to the person that said it's probably because of the airport level that she won't get it again, I played through the campaign the first time I got it before she took it away. I told her this and she acknowledges the fact that since I already beat the game and have it still saved on the ps3 that I would really only be playing the mp which in general is less violent, sure there can be heavy language in the mp but she is fine with that.
Also, she does let me see R rated movies (well most) including violent ones such as Public Enemies. I also found that I have already tried exactly, or something very similar to about 90% of what has been suggested.
Also, she does let me see R rated movies (well most) including violent ones such as Public Enemies. I also found that I have already tried exactly, or something very similar to about 90% of what has been suggested.
Tell her you can turn the blood off if you get the game works all the time and if still doesn't let you, buy it then put it in a E rated case
Edit: Wait your 13 then she might be right shes not being unfair just a parent im 16 and my parents check my games if there M rated, when i buy them
Edit: Wait your 13 then she might be right shes not being unfair just a parent im 16 and my parents check my games if there M rated, when i buy them
She also doesn't want her son exposed to fun. It just shows that she doesn't trust that he's mature enough to handle some violence without becoming a phsycopath.Gxas said:
The problem being: shut your face up or you get thrown out!Nillz said:
Unless it was a Glass Menagerie like thing, Tom, the only one paying the bills' mother confiscates his at-the-time racy books.
...Just, don't abandon your sister and follow your father into a life of shame. Err...
If this was the age of Gamecube or before, Xbox games not included, I would agree with you. However, in this day and age we have this thing called Online Multiplayer. And the most annoying thing about online multiplayer is, you guessed it, annoying whiny 13 year old brats. You may think you aren't one now. But in about 4-5 years, you'll be playing with the 9 year olds of today and be sorry for those that you subjected to grinding ear-rappage with your pre-pubescent voice and sense of humour.
That's my only problem with this. You may say you won't play online, or only with friends. But inevitably you'll end up in the main servers. Inevitably, someone will say something that you disagree with and you will speak. And once a child in your age group speaks, it does not stop.
So remember: You won't destroy your own sanity; you'll destroy someone else's.
That's my only problem with this. You may say you won't play online, or only with friends. But inevitably you'll end up in the main servers. Inevitably, someone will say something that you disagree with and you will speak. And once a child in your age group speaks, it does not stop.
So remember: You won't destroy your own sanity; you'll destroy someone else's.
Same here...with my dad.
For years he wouldn't let my play video games, and he blamed it on not being able to afford a console. But he absolutely despised ANYONE who played video games, and thought they made kids kill people. Then by a great set of circumstances, I built a PC with my own money and now he is sort of interested...he kept asking me to let him play.
For years he wouldn't let my play video games, and he blamed it on not being able to afford a console. But he absolutely despised ANYONE who played video games, and thought they made kids kill people. Then by a great set of circumstances, I built a PC with my own money and now he is sort of interested...he kept asking me to let him play.
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Props to your mum, it's good to know that amongst the pre-pubescent idiots who shriek down the mic whenever they get killed, there's a parent who's making sure we don't have to listen to that. Raising a male kid as a single mum is never going to be easy, but she seems to be able to set boundaries and rewards.
Oh, speaking of rewards actually, let me tell you a couple of things. My first console was a Gameboy. My first proper console was a Dreamcast, which I bought for £30 with a bunch of games 6 months ago. When I was 7, my mum got me a PS1 for Christmas. My dad decided it would glue me to the TV for too long, so he made her take it back. I only ended up with the Gameboy because I managed to break my arm and cause massive nerve/muscle damage, my physiotherapist recommended that I got one to help the muscles and nerves re-knit quickly.
I had no internet in my room until Christmas 07, and that was when I ignored my dad's decision that I wasn't to have it in my room, bought an adapter and hooked it up myself. The only two TV's in the house are in my parents room and the main one in the lounge. If I'm watching something in the lounge and one of my parents wants to watch something different, I'd better find something else to do.
TL;DR- Stop being a butthurt. Your mum has bought you an expensive console and is letting you play it on her TV. Find a game that isn't rated for people above your age, kick it like that for a few years. You might want to take a look at how you treat your mum too, if you think losing your dad was hard, imagine losing someone you love enough to raise a child with.[/quote]
I just want to reply to part of your comment personally, A. Thanks I won't and didn't shriek every time I got killed in mw2 mp when I had it originally. B. how you described growing what electronics you had growing up, is actually quite similar to mine, so I think I'll just run down on it, my first console was a N64. Though it really wasn't even mine, but my brother's. The first gaming system that was really "mine" was a GameBoy Advance, and even though I got it as a birthday present I ended up paying for half of it's price and all the games I got for it. The next console I got was a used and pretty beat up GC, since it was only like 30 dollars I didn't have to actually pay anything for the console itself but I still had to buy all my games. After that in 2005 I got a PSP that was originally given to my brother for his birthday but he gave it to me when he went to college (I still have it today).
In late 2008 I got a PS2 (which I again had to pay half the $130 price tag regardless of the fact that it was a "present" and had to pay for all my games). At this point I was using my brothers old bedroom as my "gaming room" because it had a T.V. in it (albeit an old one), and was still using the same bedroom I'd been using. I got a new T.V. for that room (it was 30" flat screen HD) as a Christmas present in 2008 but had to pay for half of it, and then one day mid 2009 I came home to find that it was gone. I found out the next day that my brother (who goes to college about an hour from hour house) had taken the T.V. and sold it on Ebay because he was running low on money, and he didn't give my mom or I any money back from selling it.
So as a result of that we ended up getting another new T.V. where I again had to pay half of the price tag. Then I got a PS3 for my 13th birthday last year, but again I had to pay for half of it and all the games I get for it. It would also be worth noting that I still don't have a computer in either my bedroom or the gaming room, and I don't have a T.V. in my bedroom and the T.V. in the gaming room isn't hooked up to cable so I can only play games and watch movies on that one. Also that I have never had allowance and that all the money I have made for games, consoles, computers, etc. has been from manual labor or helping neighbors with computer problems and stuff like that.
Props to your mum, it's good to know that amongst the pre-pubescent idiots who shriek down the mic whenever they get killed, there's a parent who's making sure we don't have to listen to that. Raising a male kid as a single mum is never going to be easy, but she seems to be able to set boundaries and rewards.
Oh, speaking of rewards actually, let me tell you a couple of things. My first console was a Gameboy. My first proper console was a Dreamcast, which I bought for £30 with a bunch of games 6 months ago. When I was 7, my mum got me a PS1 for Christmas. My dad decided it would glue me to the TV for too long, so he made her take it back. I only ended up with the Gameboy because I managed to break my arm and cause massive nerve/muscle damage, my physiotherapist recommended that I got one to help the muscles and nerves re-knit quickly.
I had no internet in my room until Christmas 07, and that was when I ignored my dad's decision that I wasn't to have it in my room, bought an adapter and hooked it up myself. The only two TV's in the house are in my parents room and the main one in the lounge. If I'm watching something in the lounge and one of my parents wants to watch something different, I'd better find something else to do.
TL;DR- Stop being a butthurt. Your mum has bought you an expensive console and is letting you play it on her TV. Find a game that isn't rated for people above your age, kick it like that for a few years. You might want to take a look at how you treat your mum too, if you think losing your dad was hard, imagine losing someone you love enough to raise a child with.[/quote]
I just want to reply to part of your comment personally, A. Thanks I won't and didn't shriek every time I got killed in mw2 mp when I had it originally. B. how you described growing what electronics you had growing up, is actually quite similar to mine, so I think I'll just run down on it, my first console was a N64. Though it really wasn't even mine, but my brother's. The first gaming system that was really "mine" was a GameBoy Advance, and even though I got it as a birthday present I ended up paying for half of it's price and all the games I got for it. The next console I got was a used and pretty beat up GC, since it was only like 30 dollars I didn't have to actually pay anything for the console itself but I still had to buy all my games. After that in 2005 I got a PSP that was originally given to my brother for his birthday but he gave it to me when he went to college (I still have it today).
In late 2008 I got a PS2 (which I again had to pay half the $130 price tag regardless of the fact that it was a "present" and had to pay for all my games). At this point I was using my brothers old bedroom as my "gaming room" because it had a T.V. in it (albeit an old one), and was still using the same bedroom I'd been using. I got a new T.V. for that room (it was 30" flat screen HD) as a Christmas present in 2008 but had to pay for half of it, and then one day mid 2009 I came home to find that it was gone. I found out the next day that my brother (who goes to college about an hour from hour house) had taken the T.V. and sold it on Ebay because he was running low on money, and he didn't give my mom or I any money back from selling it.
So as a result of that we ended up getting another new T.V. where I again had to pay half of the price tag. Then I got a PS3 for my 13th birthday last year, but again I had to pay for half of it and all the games I get for it. It would also be worth noting that I still don't have a computer in either my bedroom or the gaming room, and I don't have a T.V. in my bedroom and the T.V. in the gaming room isn't hooked up to cable so I can only play games and watch movies on that one. Also that I have never had allowance and that all the money I have made for games, consoles, computers, etc. has been from manual labor or helping neighbors with computer problems and stuff like that.
Not quite. I mean, its the same thing as my dad. He doesn't like rap. He says that he doesn't want it played in the house where he can hear it. So we don't listen to rap in the house. Its a rule that he set. Its not that he doesn't think we're mature enough for it, or wants us to be miserable. Its that he doesn't like it and doesn't want to hear it. The OP's mom doesn't like violent videogames, so she doesn't want them in her house. I really cannot believe that you're still arguing this. It has nothing to do with the fact that she doesn't want him having fun, its that she doesn't want him playing them in her house.nathan-dts said:
Read the bolded part of the last thing you quoted of mine. I don't think you read that part before responding, because you obviously aren't doing it.