N. Korea Threatens USA

[Cowabungaa]

Edit: Sorry, the internet here is freaky, excuse et moi for the double post. (if anyone could delete this, thank you)

It's not "exuse et moi," it's excuse (with the acent on the "e") moi. You don't need to make a new post.

That was an edit of said double post, actually. I couldn't delete it. If I could I missed that button. Should've editted that missed c as well though, o well.

Yeah, it really is sad what N. Korea is doing to their own citizens, and what is even sadder is that really we have no governmental grounds to halt it. A government can do what it wants to it's own people, that's part of having national sovereignty. We can attempt to place pressures on them to change, but it's kind of like the Prime Directive, no interference with a culture's way of life. All we can do is try and support citizens that attempt to change the country from within as opposed to forcing it from without.

(For further proof look at how we fucked up Iraq)

Not only that, but switching from ultra, almost comical style communist dictatorship to an open, free country in a couple of days probably will send a shockwave through the country most can't deal with. I saw a documentary about NK a while ago, in wich a Westren eye surgeon was finally permitted to operate on blind people. When the patients could finally take their eye bandages off, they all literally worshipped a picture of Kim Jong Il (while he practically made them blind in the first place). It was so surreal to watch, very scary. They also get preached to every day on how awfull the Americans are, practically brainwashed. I doubt any of us can imagine how it's like to be a citizin there, I bet most people don't even know there was a moonlanding, a whole country isolated to the extreme. What do you think would happen when we barge in and tell them "Hai guys, that evil bastard is gone now, you're free!"

 

[Ripshot]

There's one thing in a game that's very popular in Korea that seems to sum up this entire situation.

Nuclear launch detected.

*insert laughter*

Spoiler

ok technically you're thinking of South Korea, but either way that was clever

on topic: I don't think(hope) this will escalate, as others have said North Korea is acting childish, threatening to retaliate after they broke the rules set for them.

 

[cowbell40]

They know they can't fight against all of us and aren't dumb enough to actually launch a missile at anyone. It just bothers me how North Korea acts like a whiny little annoying child all the time. One of these days, they're gonna end up in trouble.

 

[El Poncho]

I think we will need to be renaming north korea on the map to china

 

[crono738]

If they do anything serious, and even if they do bomb the US, we have so many allies around the world that their country would be wiped from the map less than a day later.

WE don't have that many anymore.

We do, however, have several countries who we owe boatloads of money to, most of which probably wouldn't want to see that money get blown to hell...like China.

 

[dochmbi]

If North Korea tries attacking America, I'm hoping that China, our greatest trade ally begins to see them as a threat. The Chinese could devastate North Korea like no one else could imagine.

Overlord, moving.

 

[Jharry5]

I doubt that North Korea could wipe the US from the map. It's a big country, and North Korea doesn't own that many nukes. I'm pretty sure that the UK and the UN would get involved, as would China, South Korea and Japan. It wouldn't last long.
The might be able to cause some damage (they are nukes, after all), but that's dependant on two things; first, that they be stupid enough to launch an attack. The second, that their weapons have the range to reach the US...

 

[19]

I'd say that they're an almost equal threat to the U.S., but the U.S has more allies than North Korea (Canada, The U.K.) and they've already got got almost 30'000 troops holding down the fort already, I my guess is the U.S. would win.

 

[walkingdead127]

I think it would be wise to not start a fight with the US. We will run in, drop 2 bombs, and declare victory. Didn't they see what happened to Japan in WWII. We have bigger bombs now. The US already have defense systems in Hawaii. I am sure the government can set up enough defenses to protect it's citizens for at least a while during war that should last no more than 6 months.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/06/19/us.nkorea/index.html?iref=newssearch

 

[crabdog62482]

Gary Oldman said it best. "Give my regards to oblivion."

Good bye North Korea. You won't be missed, but in another sense, you will be missed (from the maps). Epic lulz!

 

[Fireyredmullet]

From what i've heard they aren't a threat to the US, due mainly to the size of their nukes (weaker than the hiroshima bomb)which can't fit on missiles, and their missiles can't even reach the US anyway.

But unless NK uses a nuke first the US probably wouldn't due to various war crime issues, in which case it would end up as a ground war in which case it could be equal considering the results of the vietnam war where thousands of US troops were killed and no clear victory (if a victory at all).

i dont know about a ground war, why couldnt we just bomb all their nuke sites strategically, and send in small special forces? no need for the whole army to get up and kick ass when targeted, minute ass kickery will do the job.

 

[superdance14]

I was under the impression that North Korea was cooperating with the USA. What the hell happened?

 

[Nouw]

I'm just happy because of
a. I'm S.Korean
b. They don't intend to have a war with S.Korea
also I have a request: Please say N. Korea because it sounds like you guys are saying Korea as a whole. S.Korea didn't do anything!!! Also I hope if they do have a war they at least get the innocent Koreans in N.K out of this.

 

[black lincon]

Well, if they attack, they probably wouldn't get any support. I'm pretty sure that China hates us, but really doesn't want open war, because then it would most likely turn nuclear and would be bad. But they did assist North Korea against the U.S. and it's allies in the Korean War so who knows.

It would be a dumb descision if they do attack the U.S.

I certainly don't know if anyone said this yet(and I'm not rooting through 6 pages to find out) but china needs us to much for them to hate us considering most of their economy is based off the success of the US economy.

And the Chinese helped North Korea in the beginning of the Korean war because we attacked them first. in fact the americans and Chinese had a treaty that stated that as long as the americans stayed out of china the Chinese would stay out of Korea. Of course the US general at the time didn't care and went into China anyway and then China supported the North Koreans and we ended up about where we started. If we didn't invade China there wouldn't be a North Korea.

 

[Irridium]

Well, if they attack, they probably wouldn't get any support. I'm pretty sure that China hates us, but really doesn't want open war, because then it would most likely turn nuclear and would be bad. But they did assist North Korea against the U.S. and it's allies in the Korean War so who knows.

It would be a dumb descision if they do attack the U.S.

I certainly don't know if anyone said this yet(and I'm not rooting through 6 pages to find out) but china needs us to much for them to hate us considering most of their economy is based off the success of the US economy.

And the Chinese helped North Korea in the beginning of the Korean war because we attacked them first. in fact the americans and Chinese had a treaty that stated that as long as the americans stayed out of china the Chinese would stay out of Korea. Of course the US general at the time didn't care and went into China anyway and then China supported the North Koreans and we ended up about where we started. If we didn't invade China there wouldn't be a North Korea.

actually, we didn't attack China, we just pushed the NK forces all the way to the China border, and China started getting worried that we would invade them, which is understandable since one of the main U.S. generals wanted to and was threatening to.

Hell, China may not even get involved at all if this happens for all we know.

 

[philosophicalbastard]

I believe we should nuetralize them before they become a threat.

 

[black lincon]

Well, if they attack, they probably wouldn't get any support. I'm pretty sure that China hates us, but really doesn't want open war, because then it would most likely turn nuclear and would be bad. But they did assist North Korea against the U.S. and it's allies in the Korean War so who knows.

It would be a dumb descision if they do attack the U.S.

I certainly don't know if anyone said this yet(and I'm not rooting through 6 pages to find out) but china needs us to much for them to hate us considering most of their economy is based off the success of the US economy.

And the Chinese helped North Korea in the beginning of the Korean war because we attacked them first. in fact the americans and Chinese had a treaty that stated that as long as the americans stayed out of china the Chinese would stay out of Korea. Of course the US general at the time didn't care and went into China anyway and then China supported the North Koreans and we ended up about where we started. If we didn't invade China there wouldn't be a North Korea.

actually, we didn't attack China, we just pushed the NK forces all the way to the China border, and China started getting worried that we would invade them, which is understandable since one of the main U.S. generals wanted to and was threatening to.

Hell, China may not even get involved at all if this happens for all we know.

Actually we pushed into Chinese territory. I think I was wrong about us attacking them but we definitely pushed into Chinese territory. All the same though, I think if NK uses a nuke they will definitely join in, they don't want a 4th nuclear power bordering them.

 

[Slash Dementia]

Hasn't ANYONE played Civilization? This whole mess can be forgiven by trading our World Map + 50 Gold.

Awesome.

Seriously, I just hope this war won't happen, but if it comes to it, I don't think North Korea will "wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all. Far from it...