N. Korea Threatens USA

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Helnurath

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If North Korea tries attacking America, I'm hoping that China, our greatest trade ally begins to see them as a threat. The Chinese could devastate North Korea like no one else could imagine.
With the most populated country in the world. I would think they could.
Well, Remember what happened in the Korean War, when we pushed the NK troops all the way to china, the Chinese sent 100,000 troops swarming over the river and pushed us straight back down to the current DMZ. What I'm saying is now that china is effectively on our side, (they have openly dismissed North Korea due to their recent 'experiments') they would send those 100,000 troops again, but against them, not for them.

This is simple speculation on my part, they just might stay with NK in which case we'd be screwed.
China would be on our side. Wal'mart would make sure of it.
 

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I would be against the use of nuclear weapons, but I wouldnt care if chemical and biological weapons are used on their military. Asian countries and their customs and traditions are far to valueable to lose to some moron dictator.
 

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I think Obama should make a video were he's just standing near a pile on nuclear missiles, saying "Can you SMEEEEEEEEEELL... What Barack... is... cooking!"
Kim Jong needs to know his role and shut his mouth.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
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Besides, that's about as absurd as a plot out of a James Bond movie.
Hrrrmm...I wonder if Daniel Craig is available. And we could have Jackie Chan as Kim Jong...
Root my friend, there's money to be made. ;¬)
 
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ChromeAlchemist said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
ChromeAlchemist said:
Besides, that's about as absurd as a plot out of a James Bond movie.
Hrrrmm...I wonder if Daniel Craig is available. And we could have Jackie Chan as Kim Jong...
Root my friend, there's money to be made. ;¬)
I wouldn't worry too much about it anyway. Scuds have a 99% inaccuracy of upto 10% of their course.
Of all the Scuds fired into Kuwait from Iraq, 1 hit it's target, and that was an ocean liner.
 

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Well we are allready in Afganastan, and still in Iraq (moving out though), The US doesn't need to have a war with North Korea we need some one else to handle it this time, infact if any one should have a war with North Korea, it should be some one in Europe *Cough* UK *Cough*. If the US does have to handle it I'm sure they could cut off all economic resources to North Korea assinate the Kimy2 (Kim Jong Il) and liberate the North Korean people. Of course China could be backing North Korea up on munitions and such, that may be why the're being so cocky, and then things would get complicated.

Once thats over with there should be a fully legitamite vote on whether the North Korea should become part of South Korea or remain its own country, then if it chooses to remain its own country it would then it would have its own election and would become democratic.
 

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Plazmatic said:
Well we are allready in Afganastan, and still in Iraq (moving out though), The US doesn't need to have a war with North Korea we need some one else to handle it this time, infact if any one should have a war with North Korea, it should be some one in Europe *Cough* UK *Cough*. If the US does have to handle it I'm sure they could cut off all economic resources to North Korea assinate the Kimy2 (Kim Jong Il) and liberate the North Korean people. Of course China could be backing North Korea up on munitions and such, that may be why the're being so cocky, and then things would get complicated.
*Cough*GTFO*Cough*
 

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Plazmatic said:
Well we are allready in Afganastan, and still in Iraq (moving out though), The US doesn't need to have a war with North Korea we need some one else to handle it this time, infact if any one should have a war with North Korea, it should be some one in Europe *Cough* UK *Cough*. If the US does have to handle it I'm sure they could cut off all economic resources to North Korea assinate the Kimy2 (Kim Jong Il) and liberate the North Korean people. Of course China could be backing North Korea up on munitions and such, that may be why the're being so cocky, and then things would get complicated.

Once thats over with there should be a fully legitamite vote on whether the North Korea should become part of South Korea or remain its own country, then if it chooses to remain its own country it would then it would have its own election and would become democratic.
Oh right, so the UK hasn't been in Afghanistan or Iraq for years too? I see, it's the US versus the world. Plenty of UK soldiers have lost their lives fighting the same war on terror the US is. Give me a break. Then you wonder why plenty people around the world think Americans are arrogant. There are MANY countries from Europe involved with the very same war the US is. It's hugely disrespectful to suggest otherwise.
 

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..., but if we had to invade them it would be a long and bloody invasion.
Based on? The vast majority of their equipment is WW2 era or at best 1960's era without updates. Add to that, the population are extremely oppressed beyond even East German levels of oppression. Its doubtful the population would really rise to defend the nation.

As for their nuke's, those are potientally a real threat - however, US anti-missle Boeings (the ones with the huge lasers inside), long range anti missile missiles, and the short range Patriot anti-missile missile could probably intercept those attacks.
 

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Rev Erebus said:
About time someone stood up to America.
What, like Iran? Oh wait, no, so long as its a brutual dictator who's been beating the living shit out of their population for 50+ years, thats alright.
 

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TerribleTerryTate said:
Plazmatic said:
Well we are allready in Afganastan, and still in Iraq (moving out though), The US doesn't need to have a war with North Korea we need some one else to handle it this time, infact if any one should have a war with North Korea, it should be some one in Europe *Cough* UK *Cough*. If the US does have to handle it I'm sure they could cut off all economic resources to North Korea assinate the Kimy2 (Kim Jong Il) and liberate the North Korean people. Of course China could be backing North Korea up on munitions and such, that may be why the're being so cocky, and then things would get complicated.

Once thats over with there should be a fully legitamite vote on whether the North Korea should become part of South Korea or remain its own country, then if it chooses to remain its own country it would then it would have its own election and would become democratic.
Oh right, so the UK hasn't been in Afghanistan or Iraq for years too? I see, it's the US versus the world. Plenty of UK soldiers have lost their lives fighting the same war on terror the US is. Give me a break. Then you wonder why plenty people around the world think Americans are arrogant. There are MANY countries from Europe involved with the very same war the US is. It's hugely disrespectful to suggest otherwise.
Wow you like to take complements as insults, next time dont be an ass-hat. What you just said explains why I said UK, and not other countries in the Euro area, youre the only ones who can do somthing. I suggest you rethink your post, as well as how your own point of view can be changed so future ignorant comments like your last don't pop up again.
 

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I love the Orthodox Historical view point that pervades this column / Western view point towards relations with North korea as a whole. Though it is undeniable that the actions of North Korea in recent events have been incredibly inflammatory, this state of affairs have not come about solely through North Korean actions, with North korea in many ways being a victim.

But before all of you obviously intellectual History buffs try to beat me to death with the stereotypical 'West is Best' attitude that has dominated popular opinion towards this conflict, I ask you to look past the basics of this failiure in international relations and the simplistic view towards the Korean war to the dark underbelly of Cold war relations that spawned it and the post war hangover from World War 2.

With the defeat of Japan in World War 2, Korea, one of the victims of Japanese agression, was forcibly annexed by the Allied forces in a way similar to that of Germany, with the Capitalist forces consolidating in the South and Communism in the North. As in Germany, the sheer proximity of such two diametrically opposed ideologies again led to great tension, with each side attempting to 're-educate' their section of the korean peoples in an attempt to achieve ideological dominance, putting in place governments that in no way represented popular political opinion. This act occured in both North and South, with it from the onset that the USSR and, in this case most importantly,the USA to blame for the inability for this splinterd nation to reform.

When an attempt at reformation finally did occur, the USA again interefered. The USA had no right to interfere in the Korean war, which in reality started as little more than a long deserved Civil War, in which both North and South were willing participants, with the South itself having already drawn up plans to invade the North, but were too slow to enact them.
It was the USA's selfish policy of 'Containment' and 'Rollback' that led to the continuation of the war, with their interference only showing how the West was all to willing to wipe out another nation due to the fact it's political ideology did not follow their own.

The view that the west chose to intervene due to North Korea's credentials as a Dictatorship is also flawed. As was shown in the USA's willing partnership with the Bastista regime in Cuba, the USA was not concerned with Democracy, but only with retarding the growth of Socialism. Even North Korea's infringements of Civil or Human Rights cannot be seen as a valid reason to go to war, with South Korea's credentials towards Human Rights and democracy being almost as bad.

Fast forwarding to today and these attacks continue. The Economic and Social annexation that the West has enacted upon the North has brought the country to the brink of destruction and created a siege mentality within the Nation. the West claims this regime has gone mad and I believe it may very well have done so. But wouldn't you have lost touch with reality if for the last fifty years you had been surrounded by enemies, South Korea, Japan and the USA and that your sole Ally, China, is now hell-bent on distancing itself from you as much as possible. There is nothing left for this country other than weapons tests and parades as the nation has been rendered impotent by an uncaring world order that is stuck in the Cold War, which has mutilated an enitre nation and made it so that a once stable nation as Korea is now locked in a game of perpetual violence and hatred that has no forseeable ending. You may choose to blame one side for this state of affairs, but in my eyes the culture of threat and possible violence is one that acts in both directions.
 

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Plazmatic said:
TerribleTerryTate said:
Plazmatic said:
Well we are allready in Afganastan, and still in Iraq (moving out though), The US doesn't need to have a war with North Korea we need some one else to handle it this time, infact if any one should have a war with North Korea, it should be some one in Europe *Cough* UK *Cough*. If the US does have to handle it I'm sure they could cut off all economic resources to North Korea assinate the Kimy2 (Kim Jong Il) and liberate the North Korean people. Of course China could be backing North Korea up on munitions and such, that may be why the're being so cocky, and then things would get complicated.

Once thats over with there should be a fully legitamite vote on whether the North Korea should become part of South Korea or remain its own country, then if it chooses to remain its own country it would then it would have its own election and would become democratic.
Oh right, so the UK hasn't been in Afghanistan or Iraq for years too? I see, it's the US versus the world. Plenty of UK soldiers have lost their lives fighting the same war on terror the US is. Give me a break. Then you wonder why plenty people around the world think Americans are arrogant. There are MANY countries from Europe involved with the very same war the US is. It's hugely disrespectful to suggest otherwise.
Wow you like to take complements as insults, next time dont be an ass-hat. What you just said explains why I said UK, and not other countries in the Euro area, youre the only ones who can do somthing. I suggest you rethink your post, as well as how your own point of view can be changed so future ignorant comments like your last don't pop up again.
You effectively said that the UK should handle it this time. Implying they haven't been trying to handle the current war they are stuck in. If I misread your post, as some kind of hidden compliment then I apologise, but you made it sound very much like a dig to me.
A - 'we're sick of having to fight everyone's battles, maybe the UK should try this time, the lazy batards.'
 

Plazmatic

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no I was saying that if we asked help on the Euro nations the only one capable would be the UK. Possibly the only one with the balls to do it as well.
 

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Not that bothered. If they do start anything with the USA, Britain will join in as we brits love the americans so would help out and 'pop a cap in the koreans ass'!

Haha!

But I couldn't care less!