Naked Man In LA Runs Down Street, Tasered, Dies

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He bloody well deserved it. You're running down the middle of the street naked and high? That's fine. But you're taking the risk. You have to be stopped at any cost. You're breaking the law and that's that.

Personally, I think that the police should be free to tazer, hurt and otherwise beat law-breakers.
And suspected law breakers. And people they don't like.
The last one not so much. The first one, only if a court allows it.
There has to be some restraint to the police.

What? You expected me to say something about Metrocops, didn't you?
 

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
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He bloody well deserved it. You're running down the middle of the street naked and high? That's fine. But you're taking the risk. You have to be stopped at any cost. You're breaking the law and that's that.

Personally, I think that the police should be free to tazer, hurt and otherwise beat law-breakers.
And suspected law breakers. And people they don't like.
and people who though about committing a crime and anyone who might possibly go on to commit a crime. In fact screw it; where are Judges Death, Mortis, Fire and Fear? We need some purging here stat.
 

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Well my guess would be that the guy was already fucked up by drugs, so his heart was already screwed up and the taser just finished him off. I don't think the police or tasers are to blame. I'm sure the police knew what they were doing, and if they didn't have tasers they could have ended up having to shoot him, so a taser is better than nothing. And for some reason, I don't feel that this guy's death is too much of a loss.
 

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
Combined said:
He bloody well deserved it. You're running down the middle of the street naked and high? That's fine. But you're taking the risk. You have to be stopped at any cost. You're breaking the law and that's that.

Personally, I think that the police should be free to tazer, hurt and otherwise beat law-breakers.
And suspected law breakers. And people they don't like.
Let's not forget people with slightly different skin-tones now!
 

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Tasers are dodgy because just like medicine people react to a shock with different levels of severity. Especially if they have heart problems or fall awkwardly...
 

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ElephantGuts said:
Well my guess would be that the guy was already fucked up by drugs, so his heart was already screwed up and the taser just finished him off. I don't think the police or tasers are to blame. I'm sure the police knew what they were doing, and if they didn't have tasers they could have ended up having to shoot him, so a taser is better than nothing. And for some reason, I don't feel that this guy's death is too much of a loss.
Ouch. Doubt his family feels the same way.
 

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DeusFps said:
So without tasers what are they meant to do? Shoot him?
Maybe just cover him with a blanket and cushion his head like you do with someone having an epileptic fit? If hes lying down bashing his head against the floor I dont think he was a threat to anyones safety at that time. Of course they could also have tried getting 3-5 police to restrain him, you know like they do everywhere where police don't carry guns?
 

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So if he'd worn clothes, he'd still be alive?

Good argument for following society's conventions, especially if you're allergic to tasers.
 

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Scorched_Cascade said:
DeusFps said:
So without tasers what are they meant to do? Shoot him?
Maybe just cover him with a blanket and cushion his head like you do with someone having an epileptic fit? If hes lying down bashing his head against the floor I dont think he was a threat to anyones safety at that time. Of course they could also have tried getting 3-5 police to restrain him, you know like they do everywhere where police don't carry guns?
yeah but then the officers run the risk of getting attacked by a guy that is possibly high off of some drug.

they dont need to be getting his blood all over themselves and they dont need him spazzing out biting punching kicking..what ever it is.

have you ever tried to take down a man thats high out of his mind on pcp or heroin or any other kind of hardcore drug like that?

its like fighting the incredible hulk.
 

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TheBluesader said:
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Well my guess would be that the guy was already fucked up by drugs, so his heart was already screwed up and the taser just finished him off. I don't think the police or tasers are to blame. I'm sure the police knew what they were doing, and if they didn't have tasers they could have ended up having to shoot him, so a taser is better than nothing. And for some reason, I don't feel that this guy's death is too much of a loss.
Ouch. Doubt his family feels the same way.
Well if they cared about him that much they should have done more to keep him off the drugs/get him the medication/counseling he required.
pigeon_of_doom said:
DeusFps said:
So without tasers what are they meant to do? Shoot him?
Arrest him maybe?
The point of them using the taser was that they couldn't subdue him, which is understandable considering the state he was in and the actions he was taking. Without a taser I doubt they would have been able to subdue him at all, or atleast not without risking the safety of the officers. If he didn't calm down, or got even more crazy or violent, they may have had to shoot him. The taser was the in-between that unfortunately did not work as intended in this case.
 

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Remember kids, streaking kills.

Cops HAVE to stop the person from thrashing their arms around, for the threat of the criminal grabbing their guns and shooting them. 1/3 of police deaths/shootings are done by their own guns, issues like this caused the DONT TASE ME BRO guy.
 

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mattttherman3 said:
Well with a Taser, you may or may not die, but in the vast majority of cases, you won't die. When an officer uses a Taser, it is usually his last option before his gun, take away the Taser and then the officer must go for his gun, I would rather be tasered then shot.

In this case, the officer could have just tackled him I guess.
Its amazing how outside of America, in the UK, the police manage to arrest unarmed suspects without a taser or fire arm. The argument the taser was the right option as otherwise theyd be forced to shoot him is BS. Americans are fire arms mad, I know, I lived in Texas.

As far as him deserving it and being no great loss, lets hope no escapists run into personal problems, mental health issues or a dependency problem. Statisticly a few of us already have or will. Its more common than you think. I just hope there are no heavy handed police there when you do.
 
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Scorched_Cascade said:
DeusFps said:
So without tasers what are they meant to do? Shoot him?
Maybe just cover him with a blanket and cushion his head like you do with someone having an epileptic fit?
Remind me not to go anywhere near you when I have one.

Anyway...If he was having an epiletic fit at the time, a taser shock could quite easily have killed him. If they took him down on his face, that could have killed him as well, taser or not. But from my experience, I'd say epilepsy is almost certainly not what happened; the chance of you saying anything during a fit is minimal.
 

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bjj hero said:
mattttherman3 said:
Well with a Taser, you may or may not die, but in the vast majority of cases, you won't die. When an officer uses a Taser, it is usually his last option before his gun, take away the Taser and then the officer must go for his gun, I would rather be tasered then shot.

In this case, the officer could have just tackled him I guess.
Its amazing how outside of America, in the UK, the police manage to arrest unarmed suspects without a taser or fire arm. The argument the taser was the right option as otherwise theyd be forced to shoot him is BS. Americans are fire arms mad, I know, I lived in Texas.

As far as him deserving it and being no great loss, lets hope no escapists run into personal problems, mental health issues or a dependency problem. Statisticly a few of us already have or will. Its more common than you think. I just hope there are no heavy handed police there when you do.
I agree you Americans do seem to have a "shoot em all and let God sort em out" attitude going on. On "blues and twos" type shows they have on sky over here, "streetcrimeUK" being a major one of them, you can regularly see suspects drugged up or buffed up (loads of muscles) resisting arrest. What normaly happens is one policeman to each arm, one takes the legs out and then another 2 or so pile on to the guy. The all proceed to pick him up and chuck him in the back of the police van. If the cops were worried about the guy grabbing their guns they could have left them in locked in the cars?
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Scorched_Cascade said:
DeusFps said:
So without tasers what are they meant to do? Shoot him?
Maybe just cover him with a blanket and cushion his head like you do with someone having an epileptic fit?
Remind me not to go anywhere near you when I have one.
Huh? Correct first aid procedure for someone having an epileptic fit is to cushion the area around the casualty so they don't brain themselves. If you are refering to the blanket I apologise; I mentioned that in regards to his nudity and my grammar was indeed bad enough so it looked like I was relating the two.
 

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All lawbreakers, are you kidding me?
Oh yeah, I'm arresting you on suspicion of littering, that's an on-the-spot sentence of BEING SHOT THROUGH THE HEAD
makes perfect sense