Naked Man In LA Runs Down Street, Tasered, Dies

[AndyFromMonday]

they guy was probably high off his ass

probably had some bad crack or something...so his heart rate was already racing..

i mean he was bashing his head into the pavement...

better than just straight shooting him..

dunno if anyone has seen the video of this other naked guy..he was high on pcp runnning around naked puching his fist through fences and causing havoc..he didnt feel pain. they ended up tasering him. but like if the taser wasnt legal..then they would have had to shoot him..OR run the risk of getting hurt trying to take him down with just police batons and brute force..

The dude was high big time, I mean bashing his head into the Pavement? Has you said his hearth was racing, he got tased and Bam!, he died.

 

[hungoverbear]

So without tasers what are they meant to do? Shoot him?

Maybe just cover him with a blanket and cushion his head like you do with someone having an epileptic fit? If hes lying down bashing his head against the floor I dont think he was a threat to anyones safety at that time. Of course they could also have tried getting 3-5 police to restrain him, you know like they do everywhere where police don't carry guns?

yeah but then the officers run the risk of getting attacked by a guy that is possibly high off of some drug.

they dont need to be getting his blood all over themselves and they dont need him spazzing out biting punching kicking..what ever it is.

have you ever tried to take down a man thats high out of his mind on pcp or heroin or any other kind of hardcore drug like that?

its like fighting the incredible hulk.

agreed, I had to take down a guy high on cocaine once, and it took me and 3 of the giants that i worked with to take him down (giants as in bigger than any cop you would ever see). When we finally got him to the floor we could barely hold him down. We finally all grabbed him carried him out (which was hard as hell) and slammed him onto the cement were our giant bouncer just sat on the dude, making it so that he couldnt go anywere. Now here is the kicker, the guy was 5'6 and only 130lbs!!! that was cocaine, now imagine that guy on PCP. So yeah i completely understand why the cops taised him instead of tackling him. that and honestly would you want to tackle a naked guy?

 

[BubbleGumSnareDrum]

Do you relize that if this man is in such a state of mind to beat his head on the concreat that if a cop has to go into unarmed combat hes not going to be afraid of the pain so he will fight even more and why are you making it sound like all cops are the trigger happy bastards in the movies

Then you're a better officer than any of the ones who end up on the news. By the same token, my uncle was a cop for 25 years and never once drew his sidearm outside of target exercises. He never needed to, but that's not to say he was never in a situation where a less logical or less experienced officer would have threatened someone with the weapon or maybe even shot them.

 

[deadsparrow]

Do you relize that if this man is in such a state of mind to beat his head on the concreat that if a cop has to go into unarmed combat hes not going to be afraid of the pain so he will fight even more and why are you making it sound like all cops are the trigger happy bastards in the movies

Then you're a better officer than any of the ones who end up on the news. By the same token, my uncle was a cop for 25 years and never once drew his sidearm outside of target exercises. He never needed to, but that's not to say he was never in a situation where a less logical or less experienced officer would have threatened someone with the weapon or maybe even shot them.

where was your uncle a cop though..

you know theres a big difference in being a cop in a nice town and being a cop in a town like los angles. some of these areas are like de militarized zones.

 

[Steelfists]

Thats why tasers are called "less lethal" instead of safe. Its a shame. The man blatantly had mental health problems.

If you hired cops with some social skills instead of nuckle draggers they might have talked him down instead of itching to use their toys.

Well, if they are in some quiet suburban precinct and don't see any interesting action, then they're bound to get bored.

 

[Cowabungaa]

agreed, I had to take down a guy high on cocaine once, and it took me and 3 of the giants that i worked with to take him down (giants as in bigger than any cop you would ever see). When we finally got him to the floor we could barely hold him down. We finally all grabbed him carried him out (which was hard as hell) and slammed him onto the cement were our giant bouncer just sat on the dude, making it so that he couldnt go anywere. Now here is the kicker, the guy was 5'6 and only 130lbs!!! that was cocaine, now imagine that guy on PCP. So yeah i completely understand why the cops taised him instead of tackling him. that and honestly would you want to tackle a naked guy?

Problem is, like what's sad before, drugs like that make your heart go YEEEEEHAAAAWWWWW, send a huge jolt of electricity through that... The cop who fired this taser in this case should've known that, it seems like pretty basic knowledge for taser usage by cops: if the guy is very high, a taser becomes very dangerous weapon. It's not like the fatality chance from a taser is completely random, it's all about the circumstances.

 

[Lukeydoodly]

Stupid cops. They should be put on un-paid leave for over reacting.

 

[mokes310]

[spoiler/] Why don't they have a taser class?[/spoiler]

why did that need a spoiler.
because its easier and cheaper to not have one.

Cuz easier and cheaper is always the best way to go. Go ask all of the Vietnam War Vets what they thought about the M-16, which was easier and cheaper!

Tasers should be an absolute last resort. Wasn't it obvious that he wasn't carrying a weapon? Couldn't a couple cops just tackle him?

 

[bjj hero]

Except the report said he had become belligerent.


The problem is not the taser. This would e the first time I would have heard of someone dying from a taser, and as the report said the death is being investigated. This man would have had to have a pacemaker and been on some serious shit for this to be caused by the stun gun.

Im belligerent most days, doesnt mean I should be tasered. Im saying there were other options other than using weapons on a blataltly unarmed, outnumbered man.

 

[JWAN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUacwSRH79c&eurl=http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=37967

this is why tasers should be illegal.

discuss

your right the cop should have blasted him with the riot 12 gauge shotgun

that would have been much more humane

 

[z121231211]

Well with a Taser, you may or may not die, but in the vast majority of cases, you won't die. When an officer uses a Taser, it is usually his last option before his gun, take away the Taser and then the officer must go for his gun, I would rather be tasered then shot.

In this case, the officer could have just tackled him I guess.

Its amazing how outside of America, in the UK, the police manage to arrest unarmed suspects without a taser or fire arm. The argument the taser was the right option as otherwise theyd be forced to shoot him is BS. Americans are fire arms mad, I know, I lived in Texas.

As far as him deserving it and being no great loss, lets hope no escapists run into personal problems, mental health issues or a dependency problem. Statisticly a few of us already have or will. Its more common than you think. I just hope there are no heavy handed police there when you do.

It's amazing that you assume I am an American, I am Canadian. Don't make mistake that again please. The U.K is a different country with different rules, are you telling me that police armed with billy clubs are going to charge into a building wth drug lords that have fully automatic wepons? I don't think so.

We do have armed police, they are called out when the offender has a weapon, they are the only ones allowed to use tasers also. That is different from every officer carrying a fire arm.

At the opposite end of the spectrum you have a single naked unarmed suspect and hes killed with a weapon. Why does it have to be one size fits all? I was saying it was disproportional.

Im sorry I called you an American, most of the Canadians Ive met have been really nice (so are the Americans for that matter). I do know what you mean. The amount of Americans who refer to us as "Europeans" like its all one country, buy an atlas...

We call you a "European" because you're from the Continent Europe. It's like calling a Chinese person Asian. I can not see why you would be offended by that.

 

[bjj hero]

Police definition of belligerent and your definition, are very different.
And had the police simply tried to detain him and found out that he was much stronger than him, they'd have been in trouble.
I believe this happened in America, and people don't just get naked and run down the street in America. They're usually on something. And no, you can't beat up someone who's even drunk.
The report was very vague on the events, so you're just speculating that they were "just itching" to use their tasers, which by the way, was not their first move. They tried pepper spray first, which did not work. As protocol requires that if pepper spray works, the second move is to cuff the subject.

My point is that there are other countries where he would have been detained without the use of a weapon and if that had been the case he would probably be alive today.

 

[Hyper-space]

oh god i nearly shit my pants out of laughter

 

[lizards]

their are going to be mistakes their always is and that never will change but still i dont fault them because we shouldnt jump all over cops when they make a mistake because if you do then how about you try being a cop.......no takers? then shut up

edit: ok i payed more attention that time and how exactly do you have a seizure and are still running around screaming......seizure? i think not