Next Batman Film Named

[AKmontalvo]

Give us a rogue red-kryptonite influenced Superman!

Please don't put Catwoman in there, she's easily the worst villain of all.

Worse than the Penguin? At least she has some actual powers.

Nolan doesnt really seem to be a fan of powers though, all the villians thus far have either been those without powers or adapted to be more 'realistic'
On the other hand, the penguin would be kinda silly for Nolan's style of movie

 

[Geekosaurus]

On the other hand I'd love to see Killer Croc.

The trouble with Killer Croc is that he doesn't really fit into Nolan's 'realistic' Batman. It's alright having a psychopath in clown makeup running around the city, but a mutated half human, half crocodile? I just can't see it myself.

Also, the title suggests that this will be the last Nolan Batman film. The Dark Knight Rises? We had the fall of Batman in The Dark Knight, and he will restore Batman in this third instalment. I don't know, to me that suggests it might be an ending. Of course, you can't tell just from the title, but you can speculate.

I think it will deal with Batman overcoming impotence.

It brings a whole new meaning to the conversation:

"What would you have me do, Albert?"
"Endure, Master Wayne."

Maybe some Robin-handjobin' will be involved. Haha, see what I did there?

Batman's erectile dysfunction certain was the Bane of his life.

 

[Delock]

No offence Nolan, but that's a really crap title. More and more you're beginning to conjure up memories of the Dark Knight Strikes Again, a comic-book run with only slightly less dignity than Batman and Robin and a good deal more shit.

And not using the Riddler vicariously proves soemthing I have suspected all along. Many people condemn the sillier aspects of Batman, like Robin, the Riddler, the entire Silver Age, because they declare that they add nothing to the character.

In the hands of a good writer the Riddler is a terrifying madman with a deeply disturbing motif. In the hands of a good writer Robin is a reflection of Batman, but becoming the man Batman could never be, because Robin's tale is always one of self-discovery, instead of running away from the problem.

You'll note the use of the words 'In the hands of a good writer.' More and more I suspect that the new Batman series is not in fact well written. What is well written is blanketly ripped off from better comic books and what isn't well written (hello awkward romantic sub-plot) just reads like someone vomited on the typewriter.

Of course, none of this will outdo my fanboyish need to watch the movie, because I was one of the people who tried to delude himself that Batman and Robin wasn't terrible, but the more I collect the backissues of the comics the more I realise that whoever this Nolan-verse man is, he's not a Bat-man

But then again, at least he's not Frank Miller's Crazy Steve Goddamn Batman.
One thing I've seen just as a casual observer of batman is that there are several versions of him, and Nolan's falls into the category I'd call "Black Suit" (compared to "Blue" and "Grey"), which is both fitting the actual suit he wears but also what his gadgets are like (Blue has the most ridiculous ones, Grey has at worse "Anti-" spray and kryptonite, but sometimes is unprepared, while black has only realistic ones). But even then, you have one of the biggest problems that prevents him from completely fitting in there: his Bruce Wayne. Look back on every Bruce Wayne in the "Black" or "Grey" suit and you'll know what I mean. Problem here is the his Bruce Wayne is both too comfortable with being Bruce Wayne (which in these categories, he should be more comfortable as Batman, which is what makes the voice thing so ridiculous). Yes there have been Waynes who have done something similar, but they all either showed at least some strain or at least signs they thought of themselves as Batman even while they were pretending (look at TAS for examples of both of these).

Anyways, Riddler and Robin both actually can be great characters, especially Robin. For example (and I somehow know I'm going to regret this, but why not just get it over with) the Robin from the Teen Titans show. Sure the show eventually turned me away, but the character here showed signs of being a unique character that you could definitely tell was influenced heavily by his mentor, yet still trying to catch up. He had the potential to be as good as Batman, and this show seemed to be him trying to both prove that and train himself at the same time, but he would always have the ability to turn out better if only because he had help early on while Bruce didn't. But the biggest point here about him is that he can be taken seriousy, he can be a great character, and he can be a nice sidekick to Batman without appearing as someone who just tags along (TAS even had the story of Robin win an award back in the day).

As for the Riddler, Batman: Hush and Arkham Asylum have forever proven how great he can be. He isn't just goofy, but rather is one of the more intelligent villains batman can face, enough so that he could almost make TvTropes change Xanatos Gambit to Riddler Gambit

What I will say about Nolan though, is that he's proven that he's able to overcome both Silver Age problems, and the stigma of the previous recent flops, something Superman desperately needs (note: not going to get too much into Superman here, but just know that like Aquaman, he's actually better than his Silver Age image that you all know him as, but it will forever haunt him it seems... Hm... It seems like DC has a problem with it's silver age, doesn't it?).

 

[ICantBelieveItGoesBoom]

I'm still pretty sure that Two-Face will still be there but completely insane, until the end where there may be a possible Harry Osbourne in Spiderman style change of heart.

Think about it, one of the last things that Batman says to the Joker is something along the lines of people being incorruptible or inherently good, so I don't think it makes much sense for Harvey Dent to go out as a villain.

As for the other villain (because there will DEFINITELY be at least one)I'm hoping for a realistic version of Bane, a super-intelligent super-strong, super-on-drugs Mexican wrestler would make a great villain, especially since Batman hasn't had any villains that he's had to actually "fight" so much as track down and get through the henchmen of. Maybe he could be a mercenary for the Penguin? I'm not too sure.

 

[luckycharms8282]

Hope its the penguinator or whatever, that would be pretty interesting

 

[SpcyhknBC]

Why is there no love for Bane? I wonder how many of you Bane haters actually know his story. He breaks Batman's back at one point, if Nolan did that story, it could pretty much end the movies very well and completely prevent the string of Batman films we got in the nineties.

Bane is an intelligent, South-American assassin for hire. You could have the mobsters hire him like they did with the Joker in the previous film. Also, you don't have to include the venom in the story, after all, the Dark Knight never included all the Joker's laughing gases and poisons and such, that may have been due to the inclusion of Scarecrow though. Nolan may not have wanted people to ask why every villain is using poisons. Also, I think Vin Diesel could pull off the role perfectly.

I'm sad that Nolan has said no to Mr. Freeze because he really is one of the most tragic villains in his Rouge Gallery, and Patrick Stewart could do an amazing job. But that is probably one of the more difficult villains to portray in a realistic fashion due to the cold suit and everything else.

I would like to see a female villain, but it would be difficult to pull off. Poison Ivy is tricky because of her whole shtick is poisons and seduction. Controlling plants would probably be completely tossed out. Maybe they could make her an eco-terrorist, though I still don't see how that would work.

Harley Quinn would be awesome, but without the Joker you don't have the subservient personality quirk, which is one of the things that makes her so enjoyable. Catwoman is just a thief, she doesn't have the ability to put the whole city in danger like the Scare Crow and the Joker did.

They could do something with Ra's al Ghul's daughter, Talia, but that might involve some retconning.

 

[Vallds]

Title wise, as mentioned before feels more like a working title.

But it's the Riddler thing for me. I'm a bit biased here, so take this as pinch as salt otherwise, but it is a shame he won't be there. I thought it would have been nice to see him in it, as there have been a few comic stories done where here comes off 'dark' or 'realistic' if you will. That and the man is all about mental over physical for the most part, so you could have had a story based more on mind games or more 'investigative' work (like Seven again).

Still, all I can do is wait for more info to come out.
Heh, and keep hoping the Riddler bit is to throw the fans/speculators.

 

[funksobeefy]

The Riddlers not in it? I dont give a fuck about this movie anymore

 

[Gxas]

Seriously? Well all reason to see this movie has been removed along with the Riddler then. He is the best Batman villain in my mind and without him, I really don't care to see the end of this trilogy anymore. (Honestly, I really was not terribly impressed with Dark Knight, Riddler was my only reason for seeing the third movie.)

 

[That's Funny]

The name is pretty bad, although honestly, after The Dark Knight, I really couldn't think of a better one. Seriously, what could be a better one? Dark Knight 2?

They should've gone with 'The Caped Crusader' I know it sounds campy but it could work.

 

[fundude365]

i know nothing about the batman universe outside of the films so i hope they dont get to silly with anything like mutations or resurrections because the gritty realistic films work really well. Also this character the riddler sounds an awful lot like the joker, but like i said i know nothing about batman.

Riddler is quite similar to the Joker, but is in it more to prove that he is cleverer than anybody else in the world, and does so by setting up horrific crimes with a series of clues left for any detective to find. The clues are fiendishly difficult and whenever Batman works them out it almost always feels arbitrary or forced. Just look at the Adam West Batman movie when he works out just who is plotting against the city. I was left astounded at the sheer lack of Logic employed by the world's 'greatest detective'. He was right of course but it shouldn't have been.

 

[Tireseas_v1legacy]

Discussed characters in the Nolan Batman frachise

Raj al Ghol (Batman Begins)
Johnathon Crane/Scarecrow (Batman Begins)
Zssaz (Batman Begins)
The Joker (The Dark Knight)
Harvey Dent/Two Face (The Dark Knight)
Dr. Victor Fries/Mr. Freeze (eliminated by Nolan interview)
Edward Nigma/The Riddler (Eliminated by Nolan interview)

Patterns in depicted characters:
Fully human (i.e. no "monsters" or super-humans like Killer Croc or Man Bat)
Intelligence
Organized crime

Possible candidates for third movie (common name only given, analysis to follow):
Black Mask
Catwoman
Firefly
Hugo Strange
Hush
Killer Moth
The Mad Hatter
Maxie Zeus
The Penguin
Red Hood
Riddler
The Ventriloquist

 

[Antidrall]

I' guessing mister freeze recruiting Killer croc. now that's a movie I'd want to see.

 

[Yossarian1507]

Poison Ivy played by Scarlett Johansson!

Don't tell me it wouldn't be awesome.

 

[squiggothhunter]

You know who'd be a great villain? The Joker. They should just bring him back