No Haters: If you love Halo so much tell me this. . .
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I will just give my two cents, while this is going on. I did not enjoy it for some parts, and I did enjoy it for some parts.
Some things that I did not like;
The story. I barely remember it, and I tend to remember the story of things I enjoy. Been ahwile, so I am not too sure, but my bet is I do not think it was the best.
The it being on console. Yes, I know, this is entirely opinion, but I always liked mouse and keyboard for shooters as opposed to analog sticks. I have trouble aiming with them (notably, the difficulty of fine aiming. Sensitivity to low, and I cannot turn around quick. Too high, and I cannot fine aim.)
The feel of movement. The low gravity jumps bothered me a good deal, as to me it felt like it was a good way to hang in the air and taste some bullets. Not to mention I felt the movespeed was a little slow.
Multiplayer was more focused for online. After playing it co operatively with friends, I did not like playing it competitively with them. It felt all we did was run around with either
A : Running at each other with assault rifles until we got into range and could press kill (B)
B : Someone gets superior weapons (say, a rocket launcher on a close-ish map), and they would proceed to run around beating the crap out of everyone.
Anyway, that was just my two cents. Be aware, what I have said is subjective, and it was ahwile ago. It may be coloured in my memory.
Oh, and also :
Some things that I did not like;
The story. I barely remember it, and I tend to remember the story of things I enjoy. Been ahwile, so I am not too sure, but my bet is I do not think it was the best.
The it being on console. Yes, I know, this is entirely opinion, but I always liked mouse and keyboard for shooters as opposed to analog sticks. I have trouble aiming with them (notably, the difficulty of fine aiming. Sensitivity to low, and I cannot turn around quick. Too high, and I cannot fine aim.)
The feel of movement. The low gravity jumps bothered me a good deal, as to me it felt like it was a good way to hang in the air and taste some bullets. Not to mention I felt the movespeed was a little slow.
Multiplayer was more focused for online. After playing it co operatively with friends, I did not like playing it competitively with them. It felt all we did was run around with either
A : Running at each other with assault rifles until we got into range and could press kill (B)
B : Someone gets superior weapons (say, a rocket launcher on a close-ish map), and they would proceed to run around beating the crap out of everyone.
Anyway, that was just my two cents. Be aware, what I have said is subjective, and it was ahwile ago. It may be coloured in my memory.
Oh, and also :
I saw this and thought of Modern Warfare series. Or perhaps TF2.Stewardesses said:
When it first came out Halo 1 did in-fact set standards and was a great game. There are many games that were 'ahead of their time' and Halo falls into that category:Cassita said:
Elite
Wolfenstein 3D
Doom
MDK
Shenmue
Perfect Dark / Goldeneye
Phantasy Star Online
Shadow of the Colossus
Sure the most recent Halo games have sold out completely and are considered to be pretty generic. But keep in mind that when the first Halo CE came out, it was something special. 12-year old teens ruined the franchise.
Also another point. I don't necessarily like the game 'Shadow of the Colossus' but that doesn't stop me from recognizing it was ahead of its time.
Yahtzee never said that MP was uncool, he just doesn't like it because he's an anti-social prick who hates his fellow human beings...Which might explain why I tend to see his opinion and agree with it. He also does not believe "But the Multiplayer--" is a legitimate argument to defend a game's integrity. That's what I get from ZP anyway. I don't get why people use any of the reviewers' opinions as a standard to go by. They're giving you their opinion. If you don't agree with it, that's fine, it's not going to crush their souls. Inversely (Probably using this word wrong..), they don't quite care if you try to uphold them as some kind of supreme truth either. In fact, I think Yahtzee's even expressed irritation with both sides of that spectrum in regard to his reviews. Half the time, Yahtzee's reviews of games I like or games I've considered playing give me an introspective on what's bugging me about it. Because there is always that one thing that nags at your mind saying "Ok, what the fuck, this is a great game, why do I still go 'Ehh...' halfway through?"Simple Bluff said:
OT: Anyway, I don't think that Halo was ever much of a game changer, though the two-weapon limit did put a bit of pressure on you to make a choice. I don't care about the series' progression for the most part. I'm story-obsessed anyway. I've played Halo - Halo3: ODST (Which I whole-heartedly regret ODST.) and the main reason I look forward to Reach is because A) I want to see the prequel to a story that I liked fairly well and B) Star Wars: Battlefront 2 had a Space Battle opportunity and now I have the chance to revisit something similar in Halo's version of Space Battles. It's not new and daring or any BS like that, but it's something I loved once and am hoping will love again.
I think people are expecting some big explosive breakthroughs in gaming that games are not prepared to make yet. Which is kinda sad, we have all the tools and talents to do it, it's just not mixing right yet. Like what you like, don't expect new toys very often anymore. If you really think about it we're in a pretty miserable age right now. I have an English teacher that put it pretty accurately for me: There is no longer such a thing as "original." Everything has already been thought of by somebody else by now. Not all of that stuff has been put into the public eye, some of it may never appear, but it's all floating around in some mind or another. Stagnation sucks, that is a fact, but I highly doubt we're going to have huge breakthroughs for a little while. The last century has been pretty fast-paced in that sense. Now we're just playing with toys. Call it a lull before the big break. Just don't ask when it's gonna happen, I'm making guesses and estimations, not predictions.
In the same way of every zelda and mario game before, they're the same thing just slightly different, but we don't care cause they're just so fun and have this massive sense of epicness about them. (And they all have brilliant Soundtracks).
i've always loved the multiplayer in Halo as well because they're quite balanced.
Bungie Always made their halo games with love and dedication and it really shows in the work.
i've always loved the multiplayer in Halo as well because they're quite balanced.
Bungie Always made their halo games with love and dedication and it really shows in the work.
I love ZP, and I didn't want to seem as if I was taking a stab at him... I was just acknowledging that multiplayer lost a lot of credibility these days, and Yahtzee is pretty vocal about it.Rooker said:
The way I worded it was kinda smarmy though... for that I apologize.
The game set no standard in FPS, in my opinion. Its always been sort of generic. The only thing that really set it apart from other games was its multiplayer.
I really hate Halo 3 but I still get the appeal. The space theme, the interesting weapons, the decent plot (for no.2 at least). It's all very well done and Halo did evolve some game mechanics for first person shooters at its time.
You might be right about the weapon thing....Enigmers said:
Anywho, modern shooters have regenerating health instead of health meters or bars, limeted weapon pick-up melee and grenade hotkeys.
This also means Half Life 2 is not a modern shooter. Still awesome though.
I know I'm on page 12 here so I'm not expecting much to come of this. I don't HATE halo I can understand the appeal but what I do HATE is what it has done to shooters. Halo is mindless mediocre fun. Yes it is fun but there is nothing more to it. I've seen a ton of people posting oh here about how great the story was...what story? I've played all of the games so far (campaign all the way through several times) and it was nothing more than:
-you play a person who has no character or personality
-aliens bad
-you kill aliens
-some aliens are good
-look zombie things they are bad too kill them
-this is Sarge he is black love him
-quick start the ring to kill flood
-ohnoes the ring will kill everything stop it
-yay you stopped it
-get to earth
-ohnoes earth is attack attack them back
-yay you stopped them
-ohnoes they went to activate the new ring
-quick activate the ring it is far enough away it wont kill everything
granted in the other game other stuff happens such as:
-Captain Reynolds finds his girlfriend
-Africa gets shot and everyone cheers because it is the best thing that has happened there in a while also it means less vuvuzela in the world
-Reach gets its ass kicked and everyone dies (seriously we know how it ends why play it?)
and that's about it. I tried to read the books a while back and gave up. You can feel they are trying their hardest to add some depth and emotion to the above plot but then you remember the game they're based on, laugh a bit, and then go do something productive. Halo is an average way to waste a few hours but lets all be honest about it it isn't the next evolution of gaming and it isn't deeper than a tortilla. Personally I'd rather play some Java game instead.
Also there will never be a Halo movie, because the day Master Chief as a speaking line the shit storm from fan boys over who it is will flood the world.
-you play a person who has no character or personality
-aliens bad
-you kill aliens
-some aliens are good
-look zombie things they are bad too kill them
-this is Sarge he is black love him
-quick start the ring to kill flood
-ohnoes the ring will kill everything stop it
-yay you stopped it
-get to earth
-ohnoes earth is attack attack them back
-yay you stopped them
-ohnoes they went to activate the new ring
-quick activate the ring it is far enough away it wont kill everything
granted in the other game other stuff happens such as:
-Captain Reynolds finds his girlfriend
-Africa gets shot and everyone cheers because it is the best thing that has happened there in a while also it means less vuvuzela in the world
-Reach gets its ass kicked and everyone dies (seriously we know how it ends why play it?)
and that's about it. I tried to read the books a while back and gave up. You can feel they are trying their hardest to add some depth and emotion to the above plot but then you remember the game they're based on, laugh a bit, and then go do something productive. Halo is an average way to waste a few hours but lets all be honest about it it isn't the next evolution of gaming and it isn't deeper than a tortilla. Personally I'd rather play some Java game instead.
Also there will never be a Halo movie, because the day Master Chief as a speaking line the shit storm from fan boys over who it is will flood the world.
Maybe it didn't set the standard, Doom did that. But in the case of the current FPS genre, Halo revived the mainstream interest in them. Denying that is just ridiculous.snowplow said:
Need proof? When the original Xbox came out, half the people who bought it also bought Halo.