Noobs on MMOs

[Xbowhyena]

Only read this section if you play WoW, otherwise you probably won't understand much.

Alright, I was running SM Cath earlier this morning. We had a really bad group, but I knew we could make it. The group poorly put together, partly a fault of mine and partly because it's hard to find a good group in the morning, but it worked. As things sometimes go with recruiting for pugs, I ended up tanking AND healing, which suited me fine. I mean seriously, this is SM, level 30-40... It's easy as shit. Well there was a shaman and a warrior who were constantly getting on my nerves, and when we killed Mograine and Whitemane, the Triune Amulet drops. Naturally me (a pally) and the Warlock roll on it. Then of course the warrior rolls on it and wins it. Me and the lock just dropped group and logged right then.

You will understand this part if you play WoW or not.

I'm not really all that worked up about it, I'm just posting because I know some people will find this funny and to make my point: Why the hell are there so many noobs on MMOs? I've been playing MMO games for years, and NEVER had a time where I have been as bad as these idiots. Anyone else got more stories like this?

 

[Handofpwn]

Because everyone starts out a noob. Its an unfortunate fact of life. If I said I didnt roll on a trinket when I wasnt supposed to I would be lieing. But now I know better!

 

[WrongSprite]

Oh.....is this really worth discussion?

People will always have verying degrees of skill in MMO's, seeing as they're all human. People are too harsh on them. I can't stand the word "noob" myself.

 

[Xionis Zeshun]

I'll admit my experience with WoW is limited, however you don't need to have played it to understand this story and it's frustrating details.

My theory is all the "good" players are already high lvl, they've mastered the game, and breeze through the low lvls, bypassing the lower dungeons unless they're twinking. This leaves only noobs, retards, and chronic sufferers of mental decay to populate the lower levels.

You can see this effect in any of the MMO's I've played, WoW, FFXI, and even EVE.

This of course doesn't mean higher lvls can't be idiots as well, but the ratios are more in your favor at least.

 

[El Poncho]

It didn't happen to me but it was in my group epic sword drops with the like 2.5% drop rate warrior rolls on it but then a mage rolled on it.So i kicked him from the group got my friend who was on horde to kill him And i wouldnt say he is noob unless he thought it would be good for him he is more likely a ninja.

 

[Cuniculus]

I'm sort of a noob myself, but I know when to need, greed, or pass. So, I understand. At the same time, without noobs, who would become the great players? No one started out knowing exactly what to do at exactly the right time in every situation. Talk to them next time, tell them what they are doing wrong, and maybe you'll get a little "pay it forward" action and actually solve one or two problems.

 

[Xionis Zeshun]

OK so I have played wow but dont now and here are my thoughts. Although I know next to nothing about it now.

Amulet is rare and worth something im assuming.

You and the other guy could have used it whereas the warrior could not. But why shouldnt he roll for it and just sell it?? Did he not help to get the drop???

Common courtesy, there are two roll systems in WoW, Need and Greed. If a player NEEDS the item, as I'm guessing the OP and his warrior friend did, they select need. Those just wishing to sell it select Greed, if nobody needs it, everyone greeds and whoever gets lucky gets a few extra gold. Selecting Need on a item you just intend to sell is, in my humble opinion, extremely rude.

 

[pffh]

Right lets focus on one part of this post SM cathedral a level what 38-40(?) instance maybe that guy didn't know he wasn't supposed to roll for it and maybe it was better then what he was wearing.

hell when I first went there on my rogue I rolled on and won the hat (a cloth caster hat) from whats her name last boss because it was better then what I had been using (the cloth hat from gnomeregan). Of course people got angry but I explained why I did it, said I was sorry and didn't know that I shouldn't have rolled, was forgiven etc and (after a couple of more runs) it even ended in me being invited to the guild.

 

[veloper]

A mistake on the part of the TS.
Need or greed is something that should be agreed upon first.

Everyone wants a piece of the loot and pugs disintegrate fast.

 

[Cpt_Oblivious]

It depends if you mean noobs or newbs.

Newbs are people who haven't done this stuff before and are unsure of what to do. The reason there's lots is because MMOs keep on growing.

Noobs are people who don't know what to do but should and won't admit it. Instead preferring to be a complete fuckwad and say they're right and everyone else is wrong.

 

[Kif]

The problem with WoW is that it attracts a lot of people who wouldn't necessarily have played games like that before and know the general 'netiquette' or have spent some time getting to know their classes.

It's the lower levels that suffer more for this as people tend to learn those kind of things as they level up. The best response though (if they have an honest personality and are mature) is to politely explain to them why that item is not suited for their class then maybe 3 times out of ten they raise a ticket with a GM and the item gets transfered. But really on low levels the xp rate is so nerfed that the item would be useless after a couple of days anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it. Besides last time I played, Paladins got dibs on virtually everything at 80.

The only thing I remember similar was that our guild leader saw fit to give a rogue the first Thunderfury on the server (himself a paladin) that was a little strange.

 

[NeutralDrow]

I'd probably have waited to see the motivation of the Warrior. If (s)he honestly didn't know what they did wrong, you or someone else could probably have pointed it out to them. Depending on their answer, then you might have been justified in ragequitting.

I've apparently been guilty of something of the sort, too. I rolled Need instead of Greed on a particular gem and was told off for it (in my defense, I'm an Engineer, and I really did need the gem for something I was working on).

Besides, that was a pick-up group? I've never been impressed with the (lack of) ease at forming PuGs in WoW. Even in City of Heroes, where it's easy as all get-out to form one and easy to make one that's viable, I've heard (and had) nightmare stories about them.

 

[pffh]

The problem with WoW is that it attracts a lot of people who wouldn't necessarily have played games like that before and know the general 'netiquette' or have spent some time getting to know their classes.

It's the lower levels that suffer more for this as people tend to learn those kind of things as they level up. The best response though (if they have an honest personality and are mature) is to politely explain to them why that item is not suited for their class then maybe 3 times out of ten they raise a ticket with a GM and the item gets transfered. But really on low levels the xp rate is so nerfed that the item would be useless after a couple of days anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it. Besides last time I played, Paladins got dibs on virtually everything at 80.

The only thing I remember similar was that our guild leader saw fit to give a rogue the first Thunderfury on the server (himself a paladin) that was a little strange.

I see nothing wrong in giving a rogue the first thunderfury, I got the first thunderfury in my guild and I was a rogue back then.

 

[soaringbiscuit]

Only read this section if you play WoW, otherwise you probably won't understand much.

Alright, I was running SM Cath earlier this morning. We had a really bad group, but I knew we could make it. The group poorly put together, partly a fault of mine and partly because it's hard to find a good group in the morning, but it worked. As things sometimes go with recruiting for pugs, I ended up tanking AND healing, which suited me fine. I mean seriously, this is SM, level 30-40... It's easy as shit. Well there was a shaman and a warrior who were constantly getting on my nerves, and when we killed Mograine and Whitemane, the Triune Amulet drops. Naturally me (a pally) and the Warlock roll on it. Then of course the warrior rolls on it and wins it. Me and the lock just dropped group and logged right then.

You will understand this part if you play WoW or not.

I'm not really all that worked up about it, I'm just posting because I know some people will find this funny and to make my point: Why the hell are there so many noobs on MMOs? I've been playing MMO games for years, and NEVER had a time where I have been as bad as these idiots. Anyone else got more stories like this?

I ran a group for SM and when we were in the cathedral with like 50 praying people and that one boss (can't quite remember his name, it's been forever). We entered the Cathedral and were about to start pulling the prayers when some n00b Warlock takes a straight spell shot at the boss and they all come running back and own us. Even double volleys from level 60 hunters couldn't save us from Uber Humiliation.

 

[Zer_]

Giving the first Thori'dal Star's Fury to a Robue when several hunters in the group could've used it much better. There are actually better alternatives for Rogues then the legendary bow. They benefit very little from the DPS stat.

 

[Kif]

I see nothing wrong in giving a rogue the first thunderfury, I got the first thunderfury in my guild and I was a rogue back then.

This isn't necessarily gospel as I played a warlock and didn't really follow the melee stuff, but at the time (back when the Core was new) the weapon seemed in my eyes to be more of a tank weapon and this was reflected by the huge threat that rogue generated once he got it, either on proc or just from general use it made stuff hate him, needless to say, his repair bills made up for the legendary weapon. (he wasn't especially great at managing the threat once he'd used vanish)

 

[Handofpwn]

It depends if you mean noobs or newbs.

Newbs are people who haven't done this stuff before and are unsure of what to do. The reason there's lots is because MMOs keep on growing.

Noobs are people who don't know what to do but should and won't admit it. Instead preferring to be a complete fuckwad and say they're right and everyone else is wrong.

To exemplify this I offer this picture:

Spoiler

 

[Xanadeas]

I've been playing RPGs for years so when I first started playing WoW I had some idea as to what was useful to me and what wasn't. Of course I only ever roll need if I've asked if I can first. It solves the whole problem ahead of time. I remember one of my first runs through Naxx the priest kept wanting to roll need on cloth items that were a bit more suited for a mage. IE: They lacked spirit. xD

I fear PUGs though. A few guild mates and I tried to do an Ally city run by PUGing and it was HORRIBLE. The raid leader kept going AFK in the middle of fights and couldn't even get us a viable Vent sever. He had actually managed to get us banned from one by spreading out Vent info he wasn't supposed to.