Notch says 'If you can't afford Minecraft, just pirate it'.

[Sandytimeman]

Is it really illegal if your given permission?

Well, sort of.

Though it's quite amusing and disheartening t see someone gets warned for saying they're going to do what was advocated by the guy behind the product.

well lets say I run a hotdog stand, and I tell this guy he can have one for free since he can't afford it. Then the cop up the street arrests him for stealing?

lol I know, I'm making a strawman here. But still, I think Notch has the right attitude because look at starcraft, when I was a kid me and my friends pirated that game like crazy, and today as an adult, I own a legit copy of that and I bought the collectors edition of SC2. If your game is good enough, they will buy it.

 

[Ulquiorra4sama]

Isn't he swedish?

Because unless i missed something i guess piracy is his religion now after they passed that... do you call it a law?

Wait, does that mean we have to capitalize "Piracy" now?

 

[Pat8u]

well heh he is swedish

[sub][sub][sub]it was a joke[/sub][/sub][/sub]

 

[StBishop]

Talking of copying/pirating didn't Skrillex say exactly this a few weeks ago?

Still cool. Minecraft has increased in price a fair amount, I see why some people would be put off.

Bullet for my Valentine shared similar statements a few years ago (2006 I believe in an interview with some random Rock Magazine, Krunk or some stupid shit) saying they'd rather their fans downloaded it than not buy it and exposed others to it who might be able to buy it.
Or just bought a concert ticket.

 

[Treblaine]

IF!

The most important two-letter word in the English Language, this is entirely based on someone being unable to afford £17. I doubt that very many millions of people can't afford that but can somehow afford a computer to play it on.

 

[Ekit]

I just gained alot of respect for Notch.

 

[Twilight_guy]

No, Fuck you Notch. I will not support a world wherein if you can't afford it then you're encouraged to just take it anyways. That's not how a functional world works.

It doesn't work that way because people agree it can't work that way and don't want to change it.

I'd like to live in a world where information is free is no one has to worry about money too, but unfortunately that's not going to happen. Capitalism isn't going to just go away.

It's his game. He can do whatever the fuck he wants with it.

You're seriously against an artist's right to dictate terms of distribution for his work?

No I'm against the argument he's making that if you can't afford something then you should just take it. He's encouraging a type of thinking that should not ever be encouraged. If he was so concerned with people not being able to pay then he should make the game free and ask for donations.

 

[JesterRaiin]

No, Fuck you Notch. I will not support a world wherein if you can't afford it then you're encouraged to just take it anyways. That's not how a functional world works.

It doesn't work that way because people agree it can't work that way and don't want to change it.

I'd like to live in a world where information is free is no one has to worry about money too, but unfortunately that's not going to happen. Capitalism isn't going to just go away.

Nothing will happen or cease to be just because we wish for it to come true.
Actions are needed.

[He's encouraging a type of thinking that should not ever be encouraged.

Go on please.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

No I'm against the argument he's making that if you can't afford something then you should just take it. He's encouraging a type of thinking that should not ever be encouraged. If he was so concerned with people not being able to pay then he should make the game free and ask for donations.

He's not making any argument. It's his creation and allowing it to be pirated is his decision, not yours. I fail to see what the problem is.

 

[esperandote]

That's a ballsy declaration. I guess he means that if you really cant afford it, not if you can but are to cheap to do so.

People that can't affort software aren't portenital sales, people that can are.

 

[Twilight_guy]

No, Fuck you Notch. I will not support a world wherein if you can't afford it then you're encouraged to just take it anyways. That's not how a functional world works.

It doesn't work that way because people agree it can't work that way and don't want to change it.

I'd like to live in a world where information is free is no one has to worry about money too, but unfortunately that's not going to happen. Capitalism isn't going to just go away.

Nothing will happen or cease to be just because we wish for it to come true.
Actions are needed.

[He's encouraging a type of thinking that should not ever be encouraged.

Go on please.

No, you're not going to draw me into an argument about change and the value of information or anything like that. With the current system, such ideas as taking what you can't afford does not work. End of story.

Aside from that, people should not be encouraged to take what they cannot afford. It may become a necessity in certain situations (steal food to live for example) but its not something that we should just generally encourage for anyone to do for anything they want. It's illegal and I'd rather not live in a world where people will people will steal anything they want.

No I'm against the argument he's making that if you can't afford something then you should just take it. He's encouraging a type of thinking that should not ever be encouraged. If he was so concerned with people not being able to pay then he should make the game free and ask for donations.

He's not making any argument. It's his creation and allowing it to be pirated is his decision, not yours. I fail to see what the problem is.

By encouraging this kind of logic for one situation he's also encouraging the broader idea that this is okay for any game. It's a matter of the fact that he's encouraging a type of thinking. He might be only considering this in relation to his game but by encouraging people to do this for one game he is opening the gates to them potentially doing it for other games or thinking this kind of reasoning is okay. It is not okay, it is illegal. He's making an exception in his on case and that kind of exception encourages a degradation of the rule.

 

[RichardThompson]

"If you can't" =/= "If you dont want to pay". Know the difference.

 

[shadow.humper]

This is Notch:
http://i53.tinypic.com/29xzo2c.jpg

Of course he doesn't care.

 

[JesterRaiin]

[He's encouraging a type of thinking that should not ever be encouraged.

Go on please.

No, you're not going to draw me into an argument about change and the value of information or anything like that. With the current system, such ideas as taking what you can't afford does not work. End of story.

If you're not open to debate you shouldn't express your point of view on public forum.
If your way of thinking isn't worth defending, then it's not worth spreading.
If you think your arguments won't stand, then they are useless.

Simple as that.

This is Notch:
Of course he doesn't care.

Interesting.
Poor people can't share because they don't have enough resources.
Rich people can't share because "f*ck them and their money".

I'm puzzled here.

 

[Ickabod]

I've purchased 3 copies of the game, and don't regret one penny of that. Notch earned my money from the countless hours of fun with Minecraft that he gave me.

 

[Twilight_guy]

[He's encouraging a type of thinking that should not ever be encouraged.

Go on please.

No, you're not going to draw me into an argument about change and the value of information or anything like that. With the current system, such ideas as taking what you can't afford does not work. End of story.

If you're not open to debate you shouldn't express your point of view on public forum.
If your way of thinking isn't worth defending, then it's not worth spreading.
If you think your arguments won't stand, then they are useless.

Simple as that.

Fine let's have an argument. What do you think about the issue, as I'm not clear on what entirely you want to argue over just that you want to argue and you've been calling me out with each post.

 

[Aurora Firestorm]

Reading that put a grin on my face. It makes sense he would want people to enjoy his game, and he is very anti-SOPA. He's going so far as to say "go ahead and steal my stuff" to state his stance on the matter. That both amazes and amuses me.

I still won't pirate it, though.

This is exactly why his strategy works. He has good fans who will pay for his work, and he understands that some people just won't, but his work is good enough that people feel the need to support him. That's a good system.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

By encouraging this kind of logic for one situation he's also encouraging the broader idea that this is okay for any game.

He's not. In fact, he didn't even encourage anything. He gave a fan permission to pirate the game and encouraged him to buy it once he has the cash. Stop projecting.

It's a matter of the fact that he's encouraging a type of thinking.

So we should start telling people what to do with their own property now? What's next? Tell house owners who they can and can't invite into their own homes because they might potentially encourage squatting?

He might be only considering this in relation to his game but by encouraging people to do this for one game he is opening the gates to them potentially doing it for other games or thinking this kind of reasoning is okay.

It is if the developers allow it. After all, it's their product. They can do whatever the fuck they want with it. He's not opening any gates. You believe so but then again, your slippery slope arguments fails to hold any ground when confronted with reality.

It is not okay, it is illegal.

Except it's not, at least if the owners of the product allow it. Just because a few corporations are actively combating and denouncing piracy at every turn doesn't mean every single company in the world should abide by their rule.

He's making an exception in his on case and that kind of exception encourages a degradation of the rule.

Got any evidence to support that assertion, buddy?

 

[SextusMaximus]

Great! Since there's no way I'd drop money on the game, this gives me an excuse to try it out so I can bash it with the knowledge that I've actually played it first.

(Yes, I've tried it out before. I'm joking when I say I don't like it without ever having tried it. Please learn to recognize facetiousness if you didn't figure this out.)

It's hurts seeing people who assume people can pick up facetiousness through TEXT, when facetiousness is conveyed through manner of speaking.

 

[JesterRaiin]

Simple as that.

Fine let's have an argument. What do you think about the issue, as I'm not clear on what entirely you want to argue over just that you want to argue and you've been calling me out with each post.

I don't want to argue.
I simply want to prove you something.

You weren't eager to discuss something but by talking to you in right way i changed your attitude. Your point of view didn't change, but you become willing to cooperate at least to some extent. All you needed were a few words. An action. Proper action.

Changes are possible.

Now we can all return to what we were doing before. Thanks.