Nuclear Armageddon is here... (Wheres The Satellite?)

[Tonimata]

AWWWWWWW GODDAMMIT, I HAD PLANS FOR THIS EASTER!!!
Oh well, if we're gonna make fun out of it, I might as well just position myself right where it is gonna land and be able to say I was the only one that didn't die from the explosion or the radiation poisoning

 

[Fronken]

I regret reading this. I have enough problems with the 2012 doom theory.

Oh well. As long as the US has missile defense systems, enough nukes to ram up Korea's ass if they try anything funny, and most of the world on their side and ready to rape North Korea if they set off the big one.

That was a joke right?

The biggest threat to the world as it is right now is the US, why?

-They have nukes they arent afraid of using.
-They think their country is the only one that's any good. (even though its much worse than alot of countries on multiple sides)
-They wont hesitate to use force as a means of converting others into their way of life. (They are much like the christians were back in the day)

And yes, America helped save the world back in the 40's, and they dont seem smart enough to get past that, seeing as they to this day continue to play world-police, even though they just fuck up other countries (Iraq/Afghanistan for example).

So all in all, when it comes to missiles, im feel much safer with North Korea having them than USA, because then the US wont be able to do as it pleases with the rest of the world anymore.

 

[Altorin]

Did someone actually call Kim Jong-il likable?

lol...

I guess so, in the way a senile old grandfather with a big gun he can hardly carry is a likable old codger.

 

[Roffey123]

"Likable?"

Bush didn't let his people starve.

Bush didn't move resources away from said people to fuel his military libidio.

Bush at least wasn't crazy - stupid, but not crazy.

And at the VERY least - Bush could of, would of, and has, been got rid of. Kimmy will stay as head of state of North Korea til he dies - because he was given his position by birthright, not democratically.

Like Therumancer, I award you no points, and may god force you to read up on things before you make stupid comments.

The war with Iraq is expected to cost 2 trillion dollars. Where does this money come from huh? Oh thats right. The american people. Which also helped bring on the current economic crisis in which people are losing their homes and yes, are starving.
Not to mention Hurricane Katrina which Bush was forewarned about, chose to do nothing then delayed helping them resulting in additional deaths.
So since you are soo caught up on points I am afraid I am going to have to fine you for not only stupidity but also trying to lecture others when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about in addition to being an asshole.
May god force you to read up on things before making stupid comments.

It is different for N. Korea because they aren't a superpower.
America can defy the United Nations (Like...Maybe the Iraq War?) because America is that powerful. What could the United Nations do to stop them? America is the most powerful country in the world.
Now N. Korea on the other hand isn't as powerful, has no muscle to flex, and therefor can't go around not listening to the United Nations without consequence. To bad that today they violated a U.N. Security Council Ruling...

Yeah but sadly america lacks balls. Sure they sound powerful but what if they were attacking another powerful nation instead of the middle of nowhere. They are just bullies picking on the ugly unpopular runt. Simply put, america lacks the balls to do that. Once Korea gets a decent amount of nukes the title (and thats all it is) "Superpower" wont mean jack shit as they will pick fights with anyone stupid enough to piss them off.

Well if you dislike America that much, we may as well give all its wealth, weapons, military, political influence and trade to your *insert unmentionable explietive* country and see how long it takes before you start doing the excat same things. Because of course, the US does SUCH an enviable job. I know, we'll give their job to Russia, no, better yet, China (no offence to those countries) and see how long THEY act like saintly powers.

And by the way, I'm not saying Bush was the diamond in the rough - I'm saying he didn't prioritise shoving most of the US GDP into making the US look big. Yes, the Iraq was is expensive, but strangely enough, I don't see people in the US desperately defecting over a freezing cold river to get to bordering Mexico because they're hungry, lack jobs (funny saying that at this present time I know, fnar fnar) and lack even the most basic human rights because Bush likes being on a power trip (not saying that he wasn't flashing his nationalistic libido by the way).

But of course, it would still be MUCH better if YOUR country was in charge. Your guys would do SO much better. And you won't do anything that the US has done at all. Noooo, because its all easier to say with hindsight isn't it?

>:/end_rant/resume_normal_communication/

 

[Abedeus]

"Likable?"

Bush didn't let his people starve.

Bush didn't move resources away from said people to fuel his military libidio.

Bush at least wasn't crazy - stupid, but not crazy.

And at the VERY least - Bush could of, would of, and has, been got rid of. Kimmy will stay as head of state of North Korea til he dies - because he was given his position by birthright, not democratically.

Like Therumancer, I award you no points, and may god force you to read up on things before you make stupid comments.

The war with Iraq is expected to cost 2 trillion dollars. Where does this money come from huh? Oh thats right. The american people. Which also helped bring on the current economic crisis in which people are losing their homes and yes, are starving.
Not to mention Hurricane Katrina which Bush was forewarned about, chose to do nothing then delayed helping them resulting in additional deaths.
So since you are soo caught up on points I am afraid I am going to have to fine you for not only stupidity but also trying to lecture others when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about in addition to being an asshole.
May god force you to read up on things before making stupid comments.

It is different for N. Korea because they aren't a superpower.
America can defy the United Nations (Like...Maybe the Iraq War?) because America is that powerful. What could the United Nations do to stop them? America is the most powerful country in the world.
Now N. Korea on the other hand isn't as powerful, has no muscle to flex, and therefor can't go around not listening to the United Nations without consequence. To bad that today they violated a U.N. Security Council Ruling...

Yeah but sadly america lacks balls. Sure they sound powerful but what if they were attacking another powerful nation instead of the middle of nowhere. They are just bullies picking on the ugly unpopular runt. Simply put, america lacks the balls to do that. Once Korea gets a decent amount of nukes the title (and thats all it is) "Superpower" wont mean jack shit as they will pick fights with anyone stupid enough to piss them off.

Well if you dislike America that much, we may as well give all its wealth, weapons, military, political influence and trade to your *insert unmentionable explietive* country and see how long it takes before you start doing the excat same things. Because of course, the US does SUCH an enviable job. I know, we'll give their job to Russia, no, better yet, China (no offence to those countries) and see how long THEY act like saintly powers.

Okay. Give all that.

You are forgetting - America has problems because of its own fault. A lot of countries of Europe are still suffering from the aftermath of the WWII.

 

[Roffey123]

*cocks eyebrow*

Whilst I don't deny that many of the problems the US has it managed to get into itself into - I'd like you to label a country in Europe that is still suffering from WW2; the legacy perhaps. But I don't see Poland imploding any-time soon...nor much of former Yugoslavia (presently, not forgetting the huge war they had in the 1990s). Some parts of Europe are poorer, granted, much poorer than say, France, but I don't see any parts of it suffering in a severe way.

 

[Ken Korda]

ahem

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7984254.stm

 

[Roffey123]

You thought it would be any different?

In Soviet Korea - YOU fail the missle.

 

[Altorin]

You thought it would be any different?

In Soviet Korea - YOU fail the missle.

what a cockjob of a joke.

I'm with you on everything else though

 

[Kajt]

Nuke both of them, then blame spontaneous combustion.

 

[Fraught]

I actually don't care, because most of the wars haven't affected anything where I live (except the Second World War)

 

[benjimoon]

wait japan has all the manga 0.o
BOMB KOREA I NEED MANGA

 

[Jursa]

N. Korea is like a bitching little dog craving for attention. If it attacks any major country with that stupid rocket of theirs, they will get retaliation, and it won't be one rocket...

 

[Simalacrum]

Japan has a missle defence system? 0_o they barely have a military! (they've been demilitarised after the 2nd World War, so all they have is a "defence force", which isn't allowed to open fire even for defence outside of Japan... strange, considering they used to have forces deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan)

 

[Roffey123]

You thought it would be any different?

In Soviet Korea - YOU fail the missle.

what a cockjob of a joke.

I'm with you on everything else though

I'm no comedian, I'll admit.

 

[Altorin]

You thought it would be any different?

In Soviet Korea - YOU fail the missle.

what a cockjob of a joke.

I'm with you on everything else though

I'm no comedian, I'll admit.

fair enough, lol

China has Kim by the scrote.. I'm not particularly worried about them.. If they even get a sniff that noko actually has a warhead worth mentioning, they'll pull support and then noko will be like a naked baby in a snowstorm - won't need to fire a bullet at them.. they'll buckle without China's support, and China has been clear that it will not support nuclear weapons in north korea, even if they're preaching prudence in this missile case, they don't want an insane nuclear power on their doorstep

 

[tsb247]

Man we had this discussion when the news was first announced, so I'll summarize my position that I had on that thread:

North Korea isn't going to do anything stupid like start WWIII. With China as their neighbor, China actually likes things staying tense but peaceful. Their trade and dominance of world markets depends on it. Doing something to start a war would disrupt trade and possibly give other nations a reason to invade Korea - gaining a land base there. So China will sit there, waiting, and if something seems off, they will probably shoot down the missile themselves.

China is no longer the ally of North Korea that it used to be. If North Korea keeps being a dangerous pain, and keeps trying to start shit, most likely China will invade North Korea and put an end to their stupidity. Way before nuclear war starts. Before markets and stability in the region are seriously threatened.

Also, to waylay the paranoid conspiracy theory that popped up in the other thread -

No, the US is not controlling North Korea as a shadow puppet government. The US has little or no stake in North Korea's future, except for it to stop being such a pain in the ass.

So, don't worry about it. North Korea has launched hundreds of rockets in the past, and we're still here. US will send some destroyers out to watch, the British will keep an eye via satellite, China will mobilize (and they have mobilized) to the NDK border, Japan will scramble some fighters, India will sit and sweat, and the rest of the world will just watch all those people contain the situation.

We also need to bear in mind that even if North Korea were to arm a missile and fire it at anyone, there is a great likelihood that the missile would be shot down anyhow.

Besides... The North Korean nuke test back in 2006 was only a 1 kiloton yield! That's pretty shabby considering that U.S., Russian, Chinese, Indian, etc., nukes are measured in megatons. 1 North Korean nuke would just piss off a developed nation enough for them to wipe North Korea off the map; FOREVER.

 

[tsb247]

Japan has a missle defence system? 0_o they barely have a military! (they've been demilitarised after the 2nd World War, so all they have is a "defence force", which isn't allowed to open fire even for defence outside of Japan... strange, considering they used to have forces deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan)

By the terms laid out at the end of WWII, Japan was allowed to build up a military again after the year 2000.

 

[tsb247]

Okay maybe I just don't get it but who the fuck has the right to tell North Korea they can't do anything? America goes and does whatever the fuck it wants no matter who it hurts. Why is it different for NK?
Hypocritical bastards.
Kim Jong-Il seems like a likable enough fellow and I trust him more than that bastard Bush that you americans let in office for 8 FUCKING YEARS.

You need to get your head examined and check up on your facts.

It's not just the U.S. condemning North Korea, it's Russia, China, U.K., India, Japan, and pretty much all of the civilized world.

Since when has the U.S. threatened anyone with nuclear weapons since the Cold War? You're telling us that you would want a short, militant, North Korean dictator with a God complex to be able to wield the power of the atom? That's like giving a 5 year old his father's gun; no good will come of it.