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No, they are consistent. They just don't make any sense.stukov961 said:
here's a question though... I never saw God Of War I on the news back in the day and it has more sex and violence than most of its current peers. What gives?
I think the mentality for people running the industries is that someone's kid is a lot more likely to go and have sex with the neighbor child instead of going on a killing rampage with a chainsaw. It's a bit of a backwords way of looking at it but I feel that's what goes on in their minds.
You can, but it's far from necessary. And anyway it's little more than a comic book style dustcloud.Mcface said:
By movies and TV I meant dramatic fiction, not so much the news. With regards to unforseeable events, like the linebacker's leg or the car crash, the equivalent would be a streaker. They happen all the time at sporting events and no one complains, at least not in the UK, because they know there's nothing the organisers or the TV station can do about it. Janet's nipple slip, however, was clearly set up. With regards to severed limbs and whatnot on news items on terrorists attacks, I've seen news items with naked people being pulled from rivers and rubble after natural disasters. It usually on late, but so is any gore that may be shown.nerdsamwich said:
The Uk is different to the US i guess, more sensible about these things.
now mean phone calls, those are another matter....
Also, i'm not saying i agree with it, its just my explanation of the almost inexplicable fear of nudity in the media
I never understood why violence is more acceptable. The way i see it all human beings will inevitably be exposed to sex and nudity as a result of being a living organism, while some of the more extreme instances of ultra-violence in media are things we may never have been exposed to if they hadn't shown them to us.
I think you'll find that depends on the woman and/or the situation.Nieroshai said:
Nudity, in and of itself, is most definitely not a good thing. I'm all for making it less taboo. For one thing, that'd make it so we're not all so uptight about being naked and seeing other people naked. Maybe that'd help everybody socially too.
americans are weird about sex but dont have anywhere near as much of a problem with violence. in most of the rest of the civilised world its the other way round, go figure.
yeah, because the type of teenager that spends their time diligently hunting down the sex scene in a game is just deep fried in fanny batter.AngelicSven said:
By and large? Religion.
Simple question, simple answer.
If you wondered on the other hand why most RELIGION condemns it, that's perhaps a more complex question. My guess would be a combination of a historical lack of birth control, social resistance to technological change, and the telephone game problem which seems pervasive in most religions older than about a decade.
Simple question, simple answer.
If you wondered on the other hand why most RELIGION condemns it, that's perhaps a more complex question. My guess would be a combination of a historical lack of birth control, social resistance to technological change, and the telephone game problem which seems pervasive in most religions older than about a decade.
I gotta agree with ya on this one dude, Violence is something that may be impressionable, but Society views both as negative yet they are more ok with violence than nudity. Well to be perfectly honest I think that Society has set it up that way just to give games that stigma of "They're bad if they have these two elements in them".AngelicSven said:
Idk this is actually quite a hot button topic :/
i totally see where you're coming from. as an art student, boobs aren't a big deal (unless it's p0rn because i'll tell you my friend, that is not art)
anyway, dragon age probably isn't the best example. dude, somewhere in the middle, this guy tells me that sex is a straight up plot device that alters the outcome of the entire game....wierd right? and the box art has blood all over it, it was asking for an M rating and thank god it asked for it. the entire blood nudity whatever works. it's like a really damn good R rated movie; yes there's the word fuck a lot and theres a scene with boobs in it but it was one of the greatest movies ever made in history (i.e. THE GODFATHER PART 1)
anyway, here's why i think nudity is bigger than violence;
what do saturday morning cartoon shows like ben 10 have? violence, or parents and kids call action. cool stuff us boys love, like chuck norris beating the living s**t out of an asian mob gang in hong kong, or indiana jones punching a nazi in the face, that's friggin awesome. i bet parents would honestly show indiana jones to their kids, maybe not little kids, but kids, that's when i found out about it.
now throw some naked woman in there and what are parents gonna say? NO WAY IN HELL IS MY CHILD WATCHING THIS!!! now you see the problem.
sex in an issue that's very closed in america where as in europe it isn't. a friend of my dad's who was visiting from sweeden was talking to us about it. he said that women here in america wear a LOT more clothing than they do in sweeden (no surprise to me there, but now that i've heard it from a sweedish citizen i've confirmed it for myself)
action/violence is something no one cares about, as long as there isn't a gears of war 2 level of blood and it's only punching and cool car chases. not anything like hostage situations where people are crying their eyes out when there's a gun pointed at their head and they get their brains blown out anyway, i myself wouldn't want kids to see that, that's horrible.
my rant here is done, now i'm off to play halo reach where i will violently stab people in the back.
anyway, dragon age probably isn't the best example. dude, somewhere in the middle, this guy tells me that sex is a straight up plot device that alters the outcome of the entire game....wierd right? and the box art has blood all over it, it was asking for an M rating and thank god it asked for it. the entire blood nudity whatever works. it's like a really damn good R rated movie; yes there's the word fuck a lot and theres a scene with boobs in it but it was one of the greatest movies ever made in history (i.e. THE GODFATHER PART 1)
anyway, here's why i think nudity is bigger than violence;
what do saturday morning cartoon shows like ben 10 have? violence, or parents and kids call action. cool stuff us boys love, like chuck norris beating the living s**t out of an asian mob gang in hong kong, or indiana jones punching a nazi in the face, that's friggin awesome. i bet parents would honestly show indiana jones to their kids, maybe not little kids, but kids, that's when i found out about it.
now throw some naked woman in there and what are parents gonna say? NO WAY IN HELL IS MY CHILD WATCHING THIS!!! now you see the problem.
sex in an issue that's very closed in america where as in europe it isn't. a friend of my dad's who was visiting from sweeden was talking to us about it. he said that women here in america wear a LOT more clothing than they do in sweeden (no surprise to me there, but now that i've heard it from a sweedish citizen i've confirmed it for myself)
action/violence is something no one cares about, as long as there isn't a gears of war 2 level of blood and it's only punching and cool car chases. not anything like hostage situations where people are crying their eyes out when there's a gun pointed at their head and they get their brains blown out anyway, i myself wouldn't want kids to see that, that's horrible.
my rant here is done, now i'm off to play halo reach where i will violently stab people in the back.
I guess it comes down to the still present association that is games are for kids. Vilance is has become acceptable because so many games use it. But nudity is bad and Kids could see it...If a child saw a naked women on screen they might think that that is what real women look like with out cloths on or there heads might explode.
I under stand games are rated at a harsher than movies but it is still off. For films it seams for a low age rating it either has to choose 1 off subject, drugs, sex vilance etc. Then of cause the more it has the higher the rating. In some movies you get nudity and violence, one movie that comes to mind hitman. That has nudity vilance and a 15 sticker on the front but if that was done in a video game it would be rolled into the ground by angery none gamers.
Nudity in games is there but it is soo rare it is hard to find and even when it does happen it is almost always nothing to get excited about.
I under stand games are rated at a harsher than movies but it is still off. For films it seams for a low age rating it either has to choose 1 off subject, drugs, sex vilance etc. Then of cause the more it has the higher the rating. In some movies you get nudity and violence, one movie that comes to mind hitman. That has nudity vilance and a 15 sticker on the front but if that was done in a video game it would be rolled into the ground by angery none gamers.
Nudity in games is there but it is soo rare it is hard to find and even when it does happen it is almost always nothing to get excited about.
Why thank you! The numbers are from a swedish gaming community.Nouw said:
And I must say you have quite the amusing avatar yourself.
I totally agree, that is in fact the thought that made me post this thread to begin with.Aylaine said:I'd like games to be like movies: Where if it's rated R or Adult, it can have mature themes and depictions across the board, like nudity and things like that. Movies have them all the time, and I think video games should have that same freedom of expression.
I'm getting the vibe here that when people say "nudity", mostly what is meant is female nudity. I have no gripes about seeing the occasional side boob here and there, or, God-Goddess-Deity-of-choice-Forbid, some unwarranted pussy or arse, but why is mostly everyone assuming nudity only includes females?
I think any reasonable young adult or mature child can deal with a lot more shit than we give them credit for, just as long as you, as a parent, are nearby to answer any questions about it later on.
Go on, call me a hippy, I dare ya
I think any reasonable young adult or mature child can deal with a lot more shit than we give them credit for, just as long as you, as a parent, are nearby to answer any questions about it later on.
Go on, call me a hippy, I dare ya