Oh Apple, you bastards.
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Sorry there is no master race and if there was it would be the people who enjoy gaming in all forms not elitiest idiots who hurt gaming as a whole.Versuvius said:
Oh and just a heads up so you dont try and insult me for silly accussions I do all gaming PC,Console,Handheld, Whatever
OT: I have never bought a single apple product and prob never will and this should show why.
Yet another reason why Apple is a terrible, money hungry, customer raping company. "Oh I got an idea, let's alter our latest technology slightly by making it a sheet of paper thinner and slapping a camera on it. Then we can market it as 'new' and add $300 to the price tag."
...and that's just the iPod bullcrap. Their computers are worse.
No flaming intended, Apple just grinds my gears.
...and that's just the iPod bullcrap. Their computers are worse.
No flaming intended, Apple just grinds my gears.
I honestly don't see why people are complaining. Their OS is out of date, so they need to buy a new one. This is not surprising to anyone who has owned computers for any extended amount of time. In 2007 Apple was already telling people that they were coming out with a new different OS, so these people faults really were that they bought something on the way out, and they can only blame themselves. The simple fact that the article writer's computer worked for so long on an outdated system is a credit to how well Apple makes its products. As a bonus, he doesn't even have to buy a whole new computer to get the OS. One only needs to buy the OS disc. That's it. Considering that his computer is 4 years old, that's a pretty good deal. Comparatively on a PC, one would not only have to buy the new OS, but new parts in order to ensure that the system would function at all.Versuvius said:
Which leads me to:
While this may be true, let me point out something with broken down PCs vs broken down Macs.Johnnyallstar said:I think this is appropriate at this point.
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Around 2005, my dad, a professional electrician and computer repair man at the CBC (that the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation for any of you not from Canada), bought a Windows XP Home OS and combined it with a set of reliable computer systems for my first home computer. It is now 2011, and despite my dad's expert work, the things has hard crashed a few times and has needed quite new parts
Comparatively, in 1998 my dad bought a iMac 3G, more commonly known as the Strawberry Mac. It lasted us until 2010, where at that point it was so old that the parts were falling apart, because it had outlived its expected lifespan. Yet, until the very end of those 12 years, it never had broken down once, and more importantly had been able to do quite a few things that much newer models of other computer OSs were able to do.
My point is that while you do need to buy a whole new Mac when the old one is done, it takes quite a while before that is utterly necessary. This is because Mac hardware and software are specifically designed to match each other and be updated seamlessly, maximizing their capability and stability. Many PCs on the other hand, are an amalgam of parts and programming, meaning that there's always a chance they won't match well, leading to ye olde Blue Screen of Death.
So if the PC is muscle car and only needs parts when it breaks, then it's one whose parts become more and more expensive farther down the road and which may not match the vehicle as a whole, possibly leading to a mass breakdown that can require a full overhaul. The Mac sports car on the other hand, while needing to be replaced completely if it fails, rarely does so, and mostly only if there was a defect with that specific model unit or if it is at the end of it's expected lifespan. Otherwise it only needs a quick tune up that is was designed for, and which is checked by professionals to make sure it works, rather than your average Joe slapping bits together.
I hate to be this guy, I really do... but when I first heard about this, I laughed.
I despise Apple, and get so fed up with it's users claiming their computers are virus free and can do everything a well built PC can do. In this day and age, ignorance about computing is unacceptable, so even though a lot of people getting screwed by this are your average consumers, I can't feel bad for them.
PC's have been and will always be superior to Macs. Zunes were better than iPods. Droids are superior to iPhones. Almost every other tablet on the market is better than an iPad.
It's amazing how many people will blindly buy something with a damn apple stamped on its backside. Hopefully this will help some of them become more discerning consumers.
I despise Apple, and get so fed up with it's users claiming their computers are virus free and can do everything a well built PC can do. In this day and age, ignorance about computing is unacceptable, so even though a lot of people getting screwed by this are your average consumers, I can't feel bad for them.
PC's have been and will always be superior to Macs. Zunes were better than iPods. Droids are superior to iPhones. Almost every other tablet on the market is better than an iPad.
It's amazing how many people will blindly buy something with a damn apple stamped on its backside. Hopefully this will help some of them become more discerning consumers.
Steve Jobs actually could sacrifice children on an apple-shaped altar on a worldwide televised event and he would still be worshipped and adored by the masses as the second coming, all the while holding his hands out for the millions his devotees beg him to take from them.
"Apple's media people didn't want to say much. They told me: "If you are a Mac user both iPhone 4 and the latest iPod shuffle require Mac OS X v10.5.8 or later. This is clearly labelled on the back of the iPhone 4 box ? it is also clearly labelled on the back of the iPod shuffle box ? if you decide not to upgrade to Snow Leopard [eh?], then you have 14 days from date of purchase of your devices to claim your refund."'
Why is that not enough? If a game company releases a game that won't run on your OS (lets say it's windows 7 exclusive and you are loyal to XP) and they CLEARLY LABELED that it won't work on your OS and you were STILL too dumb to buy it the game...how is that the companies fault? It's not even like the guy was JUST buying a $20 dollar game. He was buying new hardware that costs HUNDREDS. At this link...at the apple store (since he was so stupid as to not read the box housing your product)...you can purchase the dang thing for £26.00.
http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MAC_OS_X_SNGL
I'm a PC and a Mac user, this doesn't get me down at mac at all as much as it gets me down on stupid people. Does nobody do any research into anything at all anymore?
It's also clear from reading the rest of the comments here that 99% of people didn't read the whole article, saw it was a negative mac article, and started waving their "PC" or "Mac" allegiance banners immediately. Is the world STILL not beyond the PC vs. Mac thing? Are we still stuck on that?
Why is that not enough? If a game company releases a game that won't run on your OS (lets say it's windows 7 exclusive and you are loyal to XP) and they CLEARLY LABELED that it won't work on your OS and you were STILL too dumb to buy it the game...how is that the companies fault? It's not even like the guy was JUST buying a $20 dollar game. He was buying new hardware that costs HUNDREDS. At this link...at the apple store (since he was so stupid as to not read the box housing your product)...you can purchase the dang thing for £26.00.
http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MAC_OS_X_SNGL
I'm a PC and a Mac user, this doesn't get me down at mac at all as much as it gets me down on stupid people. Does nobody do any research into anything at all anymore?
It's also clear from reading the rest of the comments here that 99% of people didn't read the whole article, saw it was a negative mac article, and started waving their "PC" or "Mac" allegiance banners immediately. Is the world STILL not beyond the PC vs. Mac thing? Are we still stuck on that?
Good god people PC stands for "Personal Computer" A Mac is a PC, why do so many people insist on getting this wrong and thinking there are only two choices?
Open source is the way forward! Viva la Revolution! Free as in speech not free as in beer.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html
Etc..
Open source is the way forward! Viva la Revolution! Free as in speech not free as in beer.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html
Etc..
turtlenecks. that is why.Daystar Clarion said:
OT: this is intelligent. how can you use your iPod's main function if you dont have a new Mac computer. in a few months someone's going to say 'oh yeah, the Zune! and windows has a phone! and you can play games! w00t.'
I still have a UNIX box from 1987 with 16kb RAM that hasn't crashed yet, and still runs like a dream. The only fault it has is that the motherboard battery died, so you have to remind it what it's master and slave drivers are. Haven't had to replace anything, either. Does that make it a superior machine to any Macs or modern day PCs? Rhetorical question to answer your 1998 Mac story, and show that comparing an old machine to a new machine is rather silly. It runs UNIX mainly, but also has partitions for OS/2 DOS and Windows 3.1.The Heik said:
Oh, yeah, and "average joe" almost never slaps bits together without help. Because there's too much money involved in a machine to do something that stupid. Either they get the info which is readily available and stop being "average joes," or they get somebody with experience. I'm actually restoring a 1972 Chevelle right now, and do you think that I wouldn't research parts that I need? That I'd go out and buy a C4 transmission just because I need a transmission and it was cheap? Hell no, I'm not THAT stupid, I'd research and learn that a C4 is a Ford, and I need a TH-400 transmission because I'm not going to invest that much money into a project an make mistakes. Don't think your fellow man is as stupid as you wish he was, it's unbecoming.
But look at the current Mac Books. It's not really a supercar anyway. It's like a car that's gets worse performance and costs twice as much, but looks prettier, and has a nicer radio. Besides, look at the article as it said that 3 year old hardware can't use the new media software. I sincerely doubt it's because the hardware lacks the power to run a media player.
My laptop is 3 years old and cost $1000 back then, and I put about $300 into upgrading the dual HD bays and the RAM. I just looked up some MSRP pricing, and you have to spend over $2000 on a macbook to get superior hardware, as mine has a 2.0ghz quad core CPU, Radeon HD 4650 GPU (not anything special, but pretty good for a 3 year old laptop), and upgraded ram and disk space. Sure, the new i7 may be on a $1500 model, but the rest of the specs are pathetic. Oh, and remember, mine is still 3 years old.
Now, if my lappy has competitive performance to machines that cost double, what is the benefit from the mac? A few pieces of software maybe, but Linux comes with plenty of free 3d accelerators and graphic manipulation programs that is good enough for anything not professional, and if you're good enough, it can be.
TL;DNR, Mac hardware is competitive with PCs 3 years ago, and still cost double. The big reason why Windows running PCs crash so often is because they are on the cutting edge of hardware technology that it takes Macs months or years to catch up to, and the hardware has usually been stabilized by then.
Don't I know it, I'm currently at uni (doing computer science) but I come from a small community and my father was a local publican so my family was quite well known in the area. Well known family + knack for fixing things in general + studying comp sci = tech support for about a 3rd of the town.Kalezian said:
I'm not sure what exactly it is that irritates me more, the older people who just can't quite get it because its such an alien concept to them so they wont try anything or younger people who are quite tech happy but just as ignorant as the older people and will happily click on or download anything.
As for the GNU crowd I'm not a massive supporter I just liked that article in particular.
I might be a bit off topic here but that's what happens sometimes.
"Yet my MacBook isn't ancient: it's only about four years old."
There's your problem. For a PC this would already be aging, but for a Mac, which sells individual computing products rather than having to work with composite systems, with new models coming out every year, four years is extremely dated.
Also, are we really going to pretend that there are no compatibility issues with programs and older Windows versions? This is not by any stretch a problem unique to Macs. Even ignoring that issue, a much, much larger proportion of PCs are still running Windows XP than Macs are running older OSX versions.
"On the Apple website's support forums, one thread alone is now running to 19 pages of complaints and comments, and has racked up more than 139,000 views."
NINETEEN WHOLE PAGES?!
This article is embarassing.
(As an aside, the constant arguments that calling the division "PC/Mac" is inappropriate are silly. You're really going to try to claim that the overwhelming majority of people are using it wrong? Given that it's not a technical term, they are definitionally using it right. The fact that the definition of PC would originally have included Mac is irrelevant when examing its present-day meaning. You really don't want to try to play the "but it's 'illogical'" game either, I promise.)
There's your problem. For a PC this would already be aging, but for a Mac, which sells individual computing products rather than having to work with composite systems, with new models coming out every year, four years is extremely dated.
Also, are we really going to pretend that there are no compatibility issues with programs and older Windows versions? This is not by any stretch a problem unique to Macs. Even ignoring that issue, a much, much larger proportion of PCs are still running Windows XP than Macs are running older OSX versions.
"On the Apple website's support forums, one thread alone is now running to 19 pages of complaints and comments, and has racked up more than 139,000 views."
NINETEEN WHOLE PAGES?!
This article is embarassing.
(As an aside, the constant arguments that calling the division "PC/Mac" is inappropriate are silly. You're really going to try to claim that the overwhelming majority of people are using it wrong? Given that it's not a technical term, they are definitionally using it right. The fact that the definition of PC would originally have included Mac is irrelevant when examing its present-day meaning. You really don't want to try to play the "but it's 'illogical'" game either, I promise.)