You basically just said "people have a right to think what they want if they don't act on them, they shouldn't act on them" it's a bit redundant, really.GLXRBLT said:Well that's retarded, freedom of speech and thought is of course an inaliable right of everyone, but that still doesn't mean that some views aren't wrong due to ignorance and are downright scientifically incomprehensible. Especially if the people that uphold said views act on them and further because those very views against the very notion of freedom. Those are the kind of people that really deserve blows from a morning-star to the shins...Danzaivar said:Well, you never said anything about that. It just sounded like this was a one off when they was giving their views in class, not part of a hate campaign.McCa said:You see, many of these people ACT on what they are saying. And very very often cuss down gay individuals, and myself for supporting them. I don't think you will defend that will you?Danzaivar said:If he isn't going to defend that I sure as hell am. People should be allowed to think what the heck they like, as long as they don't act on it. You aren't advocating the idea of thought-crimes are you?McCa said:What's wrong with that? It boils down to racism. You are not honestly going to defend that are you?
They have every right to hate anything they want, or think something is wrong. They don't have the right to make someone feel miserable because of those views tho, no.
I can't by virtue of the following examples are not from the same people. But I'm hoping you'll be amused by them all the same.revolverwolf said:The same person asked, "Were we around when dinosaurs were or were we still woolly mammoths?"Florion said:My sixth grade teacher: So, ostriches can't fly. [there was a specific word he was teaching to us using that example, but I don't remember it.] Can anyone name some birds that can?revolverwolf said:I've had worse. Someone in my Biology class didn't know that cabbage was a plant...andrew21 said:so no one in my history class knew who hitler was
"Robins!"
"Pigeons!"
"Ducks!"
Weller: Ducks don't fly.
"..."
Teacher: ..."Ducks don't fly?"
And for the rest of the year, anything Weller said was met with "Yeah, Weller, and ducks don't fly."
They confused sugarcane with candy canes.
They asked whether the ice fish was really made of ice.
Try beat those. Try and fail.
Not sure why I'm being called a grammar nazi since I only pointed it out because he used the wrong "their" in the same sentence where he calls other people stupid. I just found it ironic.sagonas123 said:Not to pick as your post as an individual buuuuuut...BangsLiekWhoa said:And again... you should pay attention in class more often. Your and you're are not the same. I find it especially humorous since you are calling someone else stupid and getting that wrong in the same sentence.
Ironic how anti-nazism has been brought up several times in this thread, yet there are several Grammar Nazis...
Ironic, isn't it, how I myself am I Grammar Nazi <.<
OT: Meh, people can be intolerant, you just have to live with it. My best mate is anti-gay rights and anti-abortion, he was force fed the bible x:
Though, that many people...? Something like that has never happened to me.
Even if it did, it would probably only be the guys of the class. Most of the girls I know love gay people. Go figure.
What the- What kind of policy is that?! No, seriously. In a public school? Dude... And I thought it was bad here...HT_Black said:Der Copypaste from the last time someone asked this:
Listen-- I didn't design it, and I have no idea how it got bunged up the way it is. I left it years before my time for homeschool, despite repeated assertions that I was damning myself.
I finished my second novel this week and sent it over to Dark Horse.
Back at school, in the nightmare that is Alabamian public education:
So, I'm playing Assassin's Creed II with one of my friends (still in school) today, and I stop by Da Vinci's workshop. He absent-mindedly asked if Leonardo was Italian.
After a moment of stunned silence, I answer his question and tell him to go read a book.
He then oggles at me for a second before explaining that his school has a policy that prevents students from reading or borrowing non-fiction books until they've read at least ten school-owned doorstop fictions.
Guess what's at the top of the required reading list.
Go on. Guess.
Little Women? No.
Flowers for Algernon? No.
Lord of the Rings? No.
Umm...Crazy in Alabama? No.
Well, what is it then?
Eragon.
Mother. F**king. Eragon.
I shit you not.
Your thoughts?
I'll listen. You've got a valid point; language is a method of communicating, and as long as the correct message is being communicated, it doesn't matter if there are a few mistakes here and there.ryo02 said:langauge evolves over time silent letters and words that are spelled differently to how to how they sound are unnecessary and unintuitive. (really would it be the end of the world to lose the k on knife?)
semantics over your and you're (and others like them) are pointless since they sound identicle. (other than the inflection used) you can easily gather the meaning from the context in which they are used regadless of wether they are spoken or written.
just use you , you are and your will losing the ' and the E really make it so unreadable? human langauge is very fluid you dont even need all the letters in the right place just the ones at the start and end of a word.
I'm sure most of you have heard about that quirk of the human brain being able to read jumbled up letters I.E. yuo wlil raed tihs wtih ltitle toruble.
the english langauge need to trim some fat and become more user friendly.
if you think people are so stupid for not being able to follow/learn stupid little rules invented years ago (many even centuries ago) why not make it a little easier to learn and remember.
yes you could argue that not being able to learn them is a way for people to tell how smart you are or how much of an effort your making. it doesn't change the fact that our langauge is a mess and hard to learn especially as a second langauge.
how many other countries have classes for their own langauge?
and now every one will reply and call me an idiot and barely (if at all) consider my post anything more than HUUR HUUR ME STOOPED AND HAVE A DUMB THING TO SAY LISTEN TO MEEEE
Are you saying Hitler gave Nazism a bad name?SikOseph said:Yeah. Because everything Hitler thought = Nazism. Seriously, if invoking Godwin makes someone shut up, then you're hanging around with a bunch of idiots.Danzaivar said:Oh my god... Your THAT stupid?
Should be:
Oh my god...you're THAT stupid?
Honestly if you didn't rant about how this was in an English lesson I'd have left it. =P
On topic tho, you really should have pointed out that Hitler had a similar view on Homosexuals. Usually shuts people up when they realise they're pushing Nazism.
No I basically just said that people have a right to think what they want but if what they think is god damned stupid then they shouldn't wave the fucking "it's a free country" flag in my face if I fuckin' criticize them for it. Ergo: Using the cover of freedom to spew anti-free hate and warmongering is redundant, my post wasn't.Danzaivar said:You basically just said "people have a right to think what they want if they don't act on them, they shouldn't act on them" it's a bit redundant, really.![]()
A more accurate assessment of the Nazi's anti-homosexual policy would be to point out that homosexuals are incapable of propagating the "master race" and would therefore be a "barren branch" so to speak.SikOseph said:Racial purity means purity of a gene pool. There's nothing more to racial purity. The sort of 'purity' that you are referring to above could be called spiritual or moral purity, and that has nothing to do with racial purity. That's the only point of yours I'm really still connecting, other than that it is valid to say 'Hitler thought that! Do you really want to be a Nazi?' as an argument about something.Danzaivar said:"Hitler believed that homosexuality was "degenerate behavior" which posed a threat to the capacity of the state and the "masculine character" of the nation. Gay men were denounced as "enemies of the state" and charged with "corrupting" public morality and posing a threat to the German birthrate."SikOseph said:Homosexuality is conducive to racial purity, so that can't be the link. Try again.
Granted, that's from Wikipedia since I cba to look for anything more credible.
I am amazed you don't see the link between people being obsessed with purity and homophobic actions. It's why a lot of religions don't like it either. It's seen as "not right" and therefore a "corruption", corruption and purity are opposites so in comes in gay bashing.
There's more to racial purity and a master race than just who gets to screw and make the new generation. Jesus.
Well as I said it is a precursor of ignorance. Not to mention someone who can't grasp any mathematical concept as it is. I can vouch for his stupidity.martin said:Well, that is their opinion. I wouldn't say simply not liking homosexuality would make them stupid. Also, not knowing what homophobia doesn't make him stupid either.McCa said:Right hello. Yeah. I was in my English lesson today. It was pretty laid back and due to an earlier incident The topic of Racism and homophobia was brought up. The person sitting in front of me went? Homophobia? what's that. (it gets worse) I explained somewhat shocked he didn't know that. Then he preceded to insist it was "wrong" and should be a crime (homosexuality). Of course that bugged me (not gay) so I went to defend against this complete buffoon. My reward? The entire 30 person class of supposed intellectuals yelling me down because I support gay rights. I mean what? They were saying things like "Yeah well I don't want that up there" supposedly assuming every gay person is a rapist. And that it's a choice. A choice? I mean what?
So as for discussion. Can you share similar moments when you are over come by a wave of undefinable levels of stupidity by one of even a group of people?
I'm English and in a rather "normal" area
I personally think gays should be able to have anything a straight person does but just because you have conflicting morals (morals being something removed from the intellect) I can't see how that makes him stupid.
i doubt they would send all homos to the camps mate.Danzaivar said:Usually shuts people up when they realize they're pushing Nazism.
Ignorance =/= stupid, yes. But if you were ignorant about a subject to begin with, how can your argument be well-thought out? More likely, this kid was acting on visceral associations he had with homosexuality. Even an argument in one's head can be refutable; maybe it hasn't been refuted yet, but if he were better-educated, perhaps he would refute his argument.EspirituExterminatus said:On Topic: The first kid was not stupid. So he did not know the meaning of a word. If that is all it takes to be considered stupid in your books then let me whip out the dictionary and put you to the test.
As for the hating gay people. Everyone is free to love or hate whatever they please. You insult them for hating gays. They insult you for supporting them. Both sides have reasonable, well thought out and irrefutable arguments in their own minds.
I get where you are coming from, but he didn't send people to concentration camps for being omnivores. (They wore a pink triangle if they was sentenced for being homosexual, according to the Auscwitz museum in Poland)EspirituExterminatus said:Yeah and Hitler was also a vegetarian. So therefore all vegetarians are pushing nazism too huh?
You are suffering from Hitler Ate Sugar [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlerAteSugar] syndrome.
Little Britain has clearly achieved NOTHING!McCa said:Right hello.
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I went to defend against this complete buffoon. My reward? The entire 30 person class of supposed intellectuals yelling me down because I support gay rights.