On the recent puppy-throwing...

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Bakuryukun

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This isn't only about animal cruelty. Yeah your right, humans do suffer for no reason everyday, and someone is going to suffer by her hands eventually because she is CLEARLY a Sociopath. Our law system NEEDS to start recognizing that animal cruelty of this degree, is a pretty clear sign of escalating criminal behavior. A LOT of serial killers get their start by torturing and killing animals, and yet all that animal cruelty really gets you is in the grand scheme of things a slap on the wrist and a judge telling you to "not do it again"

IMO if you commit Animal cruelty, you should be put on a "watch list" and I don't really care if that may be considered by some to be a "breech of privacy" because really now, you shouldn't hide behind some laws, whilst breaking others.

Edit: I see some people here are taking up the stance: It's more important when people die, because we're people...what kind of sense does that make? so is it more cruel when a Gorilla dies than a puppy because it's genetically closer to us?

This isn't even so much a matter of species, it's a matter of it essentially being infanticide in a cruel and senseless manner, something like that, regardless of species is significant. Sure there are worse things, but it's not a contest, and to make it one is ridiculous, because the worst example you could POSSIBLY think of, is STILL not the rock-bottom of cruelty for any species. it's about reacting when something you see or hear or read goes against what you believe, it's what caused you to pick the examples that you did, and it's what is driving this conversation/debate forward.
 

Crispee

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In my humble opinion, I think people are particularly uproarious about this because she was smiling and enjoying it whilst filming herself throw the puppies into the river.
 

mageroel

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Cassita said:
We've been desensitized to human suffering - it helps us get by day-to-day life in this hellish nightmare of a world.

/emo
Might sound emo, but it doesn't make it less true.
 
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I may only be speaking for myself, But...it's observing human cruelty, rather than hearing of human suffering that has a greater impact.

So whilst the flooding is grim, it's a force of nature, and rests more comfortably in my mind than people flying planes into buildings or girls throwing puppies to their deaths.

Not saying it's right, just saying it's so.
 

RobfromtheGulag

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"Do people have any idea how many HUMAN BEINGS die every day for no good reason?"

1. I don't know if HUMAN BEINGS as you put it are any higher on the end-all be-all list of life forms than canines.
2. It's news. News is sensational.
3. People do die every day. We would hope they aren't dying from merely being thrown in fast moving water due to no other reason than their existence being a hassle though.
 

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GrimTuesday said:
Babitz said:
The puppy killing thread originated on a forum where I'm a moderator. I'd give you a link, but you wouldn't have any benefit since 99% of you don't speak Croatian / Serbian. The retard who uploaded the video was banned, however. But before posting it and everything, he was asking about 4chan and if they can track him down. Since he lives in Bosnia, i.e. nowhere, he thought they were safe. I hope he enjoys his and his sisters' 5 minutes of fame. But anyway, there were some journalists who came to his and his sisters' (the one throwing puppies) home; they refused to give an interview, of course.
Give it to us anyway. Not only could we just put it through Google translator or one of those sorts of sites or we can just give it to 4chan and watch them have fun ripping them apart. Not the site, just the kid.

For me it is not about the fact that it was puppies that she was killing, it was the fact that she was enjoying killing something that was completely defenseless and I find that sick. For the record I do feel a lot of sadness when I hear about any innocent human life being taken, more so then any animal.
4chaners have registered there already. The user was banned so there's no point in trying to harass him. The thread is locked and I pretty much summed everything up. At least our traffic doubled and tripled for a few days. Oh, well.
 

kintaris

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Because small-puppy suffering is more immediate, relatable and quantifiable than mass human death.

This is because we all think of small animals as innocent, whereas we think of humanity as a race as a bit of a bastard as so we have less sympathy. We're quite constantly told from a variety of sources that we are all sinners that deserve to die. Small cute animals don't. (This isn't my view, I'm just commenting on the society view.)

Still, I'm pretty sure there would be more outrage if she had thrown several newborn babies in a river.
 

Mordwyl

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Easy. I can't prevent a civil war by myself, but were I in the presence of said girl I'd rip her limbs off with my bare hands.
 

Nazulu

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I know what you mean. Nearly everyone was like "BURN THE WITCH!" booooooooooooo hissssssssssssss *spits at screen* arrrrgggggggggg ????? *head explodes*

This is a natural reaction to something so horrible and it would be even worse if it was a human. They don't allow video's of humans being killed on popular video sites while this puppy throwing has spread nearly all over the internet, so I don't think anyone is comparing the murder of animals to humans.

I bet this girl had a bad up-bringing if she doesn't feel guilty after what she did and should be treated, not sentenced to death like all you over-reacting lot.
 

Ironic Pirate

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When you think about it, a puppy is almost definitely sweet, cute, innocent, and it's body shape is almost designed to get our protective instincts up.

A human stirs some natural competitive instincts, and when you think about it, humans can really be terrible, awful people. Dogs can be "bad", but there isn't the same potential. So basically, if a person dies, we don't know if they were, well, a good person. If a dog dies, on the other hand...

There's also the fact that there's video representation, which helps use focus our anger.
 

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Reasons this has gotten outrage:
- Animal Cruelty
- She's treating this as a laugh
- She clearly doesn't care what she'd done because it was posted online

Although I do agree, it isn't fair that human cruelty goes unnoticed (or doesn't get long lasting attention) when compared to this.

Really, this video shouldn't exist.
 

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Vern said:
My point was that, as a human being, a humans death should mean more than an animals death. It's preservation of the species, and as a result I think a humans death is more important than an animals. I wouldn't advocate going out and killing animals randomly, but if it was a choice between puppies being thrown in a river or a human, I'd say bye-bye puppy. While I'm not terribly fond of most people, I still value their lives above animals, because I'm a human, so I place a greater value on our lives than animals. So I guess I'm a speciest. There's more important things to get pissed off at than a girl throwing puppies in a river, as fucked up as it may be.
How charmingly Fascist.
 

PoliceBox63

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Cassita said:
We've been desensitized to human suffering - it helps us get by day-to-day life in this hellish nightmare of a world.

/emo
Truth is seeping out of your post :)
 

Queen Michael

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Puppies are cute. People care more about cute things. In my opinion it's better to care about cute htings than to care about naught, though of course that's a huge simplification. Still it would be better to care about things that can actually be saved.
 

JanatUrlich

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My. Thoughts. Exactly.

Thank you! People call me heartless when I say that the puppy throwing thing didn't affect me badly. Yes, it is a horrible thing that she's doing, but there are people worldwide who are in situations worse than we can ever imagine and I can't help but be more upset and angered by their plights.
 

Baby Tea

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AlanShore said:
Yes I do think my achievements so far have been fairly remarkable and no I've never thought that I'm wrong in thinking that.
The very likely chances are that they aren't.
At least, not if we're talking statistics and averages.
I don't doubt for a second, however, that you think what you've done is remarkable.

I'm just sick of people who have dreams and ambitions and how they go on about how they'd like to do X, Y or Z and then never follow through with any of it because people are ultimately lazy and content to follow what everyone else does and be "average".
Because you know the hearts and minds of everyone, right?
The guy who is driving that cab? Yeah, you know all about him because he's driving a cab. Probably lazy.
That homeless guy on the corner? Yeah, you know all about him. He's homeless, and obviously lazy.

Let me say this:
A man who works a shitty cubicle job he hates for the rest of his life because he's supporting a family he loves, and would rather put his own selfish ambition on hold then have them want for anything is far more 'remarkable' and admirable then anyone who strives for the 'remarkable' (Whatever that means) and damned be the consequences.

You're sick of people who are lazy?
You know what I'm sick of? People who think they have to be in the history books, or have their own Wikipedia page, or some other 'laurel' in order to feel they have worth. I'm sick of people putting own other people because of their income, social status, education, or career. I'm sick of people who look down on those who don't strive to be the 'next big thing' because they are perfectly content where they are. Heaven forbid people simply be happy!

Geez. What are they teaching kids today?