Osama Bin Laden Celebrations labelled "Disguisting"

[franconbean]

I don't think people should be celebrating. Not because its wrong (though it might be), but because the death of one man will not make that much difference in this case. Its not like al-Qaeda are going to throw down their arms. This is not a victory.

 

[Neonit]

i agree...

remember when people celebrated 9/11? they were barbarians. WE are soooo much better.


fun fact: i watched news today, and i counted. 3 journalists misspeled osama as obama. made me laugh

 

[Jonabob87]

What do you think?

I think that anyone who wants to tell me to stop celebrating can come over here and kiss my ass.

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Okay dickhead, but compare those 3,000 deaths to the 15,000 dead Iraqi and Afghan civilians.

To celebrate the death of another human being is disgusting, regardless of who that human being is.

 

[Googooguru]

Justice has been served to the tune of 2441 Military Casualties, $1,188,632,991,867.00 USD and the 8813 Afghani civilians killed, not to mention the casualties in Iraq..

Wow thats a lot of lives sacrificed for "vengence" oh sorry "Justice" but yeah lets celebrate the fact that this war has bankrupted america.

But let's not forget, those figures also have bought significantly more schools and liberation for many of the nations women. It's rather downplayed, but the schools we are building now are teaching the children, and the more literate a nations populace, the better that nation will do and given the natural wealth of Afghanistan, hopefully they will be able to lift themselves from poverty in the next 20-30 years.

That is a double edged sword i dont want to be the one telling the families of killed civilians that its for there own good but your just going to have to wait 20 years to see it..

"Do not conquer the world with force, for force only causes resistance. Thorns spring up when an army passes. Years of misery follow a great victory" Lao Tzu - Tao Te Ching

 

[Jonabob87]

Finally they decided to just send some spec ops dudes & kill him instead of bringing him in alive?



finally.

let the americans have some celebration. stopping this is like stopping the russians celebrating ending WW2.

It's literally NOTHING like that.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

I think everyone who hates Bin Laden is <censored because honest offensive opinion=trolling on escapist>
Ppl didnt even know they guy, they have no idea about his motives or why he did anything. Stupid hate for no real reason...
Only think i know is that he looked cool in his photo xD

Even if he did kill someone i cared about i wouldnt go mad, i would actually like to talk with him but this would be impossible so i would simply go on...Even if he response was "americans suck, they need to die herp derp" i would still not hate him since he would simply be stupid, which i doubt this is the case since doing big things actually requires some brains.

Motives don't matter when you are talking about the mastermind of a mass murder.

Technically Bush is a mass murderer. Kennedy. Roosevelt. all these people have sent men to their deaths. Do their motives matter?

 

[franconbean]

i agree...

remember when people celebrated 9/11? they were barbarians. WE are soooo much better.


fun fact: i watched news today, and i counted. 3 journalists misspeled osama as obama. made me laugh

Reminds me of when the BBCs budget was cut and the Culture Secretary, Jeremey Hunt was called Jeremey... well, you guess...
twice in seperate live broadcasts.

OT: Anyway, bin-Laden was the propaganda guy for al-Qaeda, but that doesn't mean he is irreplacable. For all we know, the person who does replace him will be more adamantly anti west, more zealous, ect.

 

[sarahvait]

I don't think that people are celebrating the fact that someone is dead, at least not primarily. I think it's more a celebration of relief. My theory is that in a lot of people's minds, Osama=big bad overlord of all terrorism and threats against our safety everywhere, even if it was terrorism he had nothing to do with. Now that he's dead, the celebrators may feel that that assurance of safety and peace that was ripped away after 9/11 is finally back, now that the evil overlord has been killed.

In short, I think they're really celebrating the return of their safety bubble, that whole "We live in America; nothing bad from other countries will ever hurt us!" (I don't think that's true myself. I have a feeling there's plenty of people ready and willing to step up and take Osama's place)

But yeah, I didn't really feel much about it myself. I don't know yet if things will really be better, or something else will happen.

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

I won't dance in the street. But I'm still damn glad he's no longer breathing.

 

[Ghost]

So 11/9/2001 served as the reason for the US invading Afghanistan, 3000 died in this attack. But surely, since in the first year of the war alone the US killed more than 3000 civilians ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_of_the_War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29#Civilian_casualties_.282001-2003.29 ) the americans are the bigger evil?

It seems anytime someone implies that it may be wrong to celebrate his death the response is just flag waving Americans mourning 3000 people (like that guy on page 1 posting a load of burning WTC pictures), calling anyone who questions them 'unpatriotic'. By by 2002 some estimates put the number of Afgahn civilian deaths at the hands of US troops at 20,000 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/may/20/afghanistan.comment . 3000 unnecessary deaths is an atrocity, but nothing compared to what seems to be slaughter in the middle east.

Someone with a fairly unbiased opinion explain to me why American troops are the good guys, the 'heroes', besides 'protecting our freedom'. I'm obviously not American, so I've experienced no pro war progpoganda, and a terrorist attack over here is likely to be co-ordinated by the IRA, not Al Qaeda so I'm not going to act like some know it all, but by doing a little research I fail to understand why the US is justified to do whatever the hell it wants.

At least Al Qaeda attacks should occur with less frequency now and this is a victory against religious extremists in general.

i'm sure questioning something like this will go down REAL well

 

[spectrenihlus]

Wait so I shouldn't be celebrating the death of a man who if given the means would kill every westerner and non muslim if he had the chance? This Kuranda Seyit imo should be investigated for sympathies towards radical islam.

In the meanwhile

Let's party

 

[azshade]

I can understand the reaction, but I think it's silly. All it will do is make Osama into a matyr. Of course, I hope I'm wrong, but that's my gut feeling.

Personally I think it's all been disgusting. The initial mass murder of the people on 9/11 (then again in Spain, London, Bali and so on). Not to forget the loss of civilian life in Afghanistan and Iraq. Then the mistreatment, torture, and even murder of innocents in detention. The ignoring of miranda rights. The relaxation of rights across the board.

Everything from start to now (not finish) just makes me cringe.

 

[Kortney]

I agree actually. I think those who are dancing in the streets of America praising Bin Laden's death are no better than the people who were dancing in the streets of Afghanistan after 9/11. Both are celebrating the deaths of enemies of their government.

I don't think it is right to dance in the streets and celebrate over anyone's death. I'm glad Bin Laden is dead too. He killed innocent people. But dancing around and chanting is ridiculous.

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I liked the fact you put a picture of an end of war celebration in there. Just so you know, this war ain't over and it won't be for a long time.

 

[spacewalker]

Werent the military bases america still conducting operations in the middle east after the gulf war? apparently eventually resulting in the deaths of thousands of civilians leading up to 9/11. cant rally remember the numbers.

Most likely, they had to clean up after the war had ended prematurely.

Also for the moral you are getting at, targeting civilians is not the same as accidently killing them.

accidently killing civilians is still a big deal though, and it had been going on for some time. wars have been started over less. I just feel that Osamas motivations should not be so quickly summed up to "because he was evil".

 

[Chairman Miaow]

Fine if you want to celebrate his death, but I don't understand how you actually could.

I would just keep remembering that so many people are dead, and he is just one more, and it's not changing anything, it's just vengeance.

 

[Boris Goodenough]

I agree actually. I think those who are dancing in the streets of America praising Bin Laden's death are no better than the people who were dancing in the streets of Afghanistan after 9/11. Both are celebrating the deaths of enemies of their government.

I don't think it is right to dance in the streets and celebrate over anyone's death.

Since when was Osama Bin Laden part of a government?

 

[Zac Smith]

People cheered in the streets after Hitler killed himself and WWII ended

 

[Alluos]

The thing is, this doesn't even compare to celebrating an actual victory, this isn't the death of terrorism, you can bet there'll be someone else trying to make his name as the next big thing within a few years.

 

[AngryFrenchCanadian]

I don't know. Did people celebrate like this in the U.S. when Stalin or Mao died?

Didn't think so.

 

[similar.squirrel]

Agreed. This is just jingoism. You wouldn't see Batman partying down after he had definitively locked up the Joker.. Probably a bad analogy, but still.