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aruseusx

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Zeeky_Santos said:
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all Metallica songs follow the same formula (2-4min buildup, 3minute singing, 1 min solo, then end).
Thats a pretty big and inaccurate generalisation.
Then I'll correct myself. Most worthwhile Metallica songs follow the same formula by having a huge intro for examples
And Justice For All - 2minute buildup
For whom the bell tolls - Almost half the song
Battery - 1/3 of the song
Master Of Puppets - 1 1/2 minute buildup
One - 1/4 of the song

I think that is why Ride the Lightning is my favourite Metallica song. Takes only 40 seconds approx. and doesnt fuck around.
Now your just trying to be an ass, aren't you?
I wasn't really intending to be I was just trying to support my argument.
 

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Nazulu said:
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Led Zeppelin. Kind of like Nirvana in that there are people who think they're the best thing to happen to music ever but really they don't have all that many good songs. Good, sure, not great.
I don't think you listened to them at all if you really think songs like Stairway to Heaven and Kashmir aren't great songs.
Stairway has lost pretty much all it's appeal to me, blame overplaying.
As for Kashmir - it's cool and all but it hasn't aged well. That's probably Led Zep's problem; their songs don't age well.
It wasn't a great song the first time you heard it? And how does Kashmir not age well? One of the greatest riffs and melodics I have ever heard.
my band used to play kashmir. it's basically a d chord played slowly for 8 and a half minutes. sorry man, but i always found it a boring song. they have much better stuff than that
 

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I know it's been mentioned before, and I'll mention it again: Metalica.

Sure, they might have been good starting out, but good lord... their song structure is terrible, they don't even know the music they're playing, they do it all by ear, and every song seems like it's just one long solo after another, with absolutely no verse, chorus, or actually melody. Furthermore, the solos don't even follow how a solo should be: keeping in time with the melody of the song and augmenting it to show the art of the instrument!

Another band, I'd argue, is Disturbed.

Don't get me wrong, I love Disturbed and all their powerful glory, but they're not exactly music gods. Sure, they've got good lyrics, and a fairly good sense of how to structure a song, but it's not like they revolutionized music. Furthermore, their new album Indestructible sounds like they just kinda gave up on trying, opting for a "Yeah, we know we're awesome," kind of feel rather than actually working to sound great... bleh. I miss the days of Believe

And this is purely bias, I'm sure, but good lord. All of the (c)rap and hip-hop artists just are terrible (in my humble opinion).

Sure, you can say words to a beat, you can keep a decent bassline and beat. But of all the music I've heard, it's like "OH EM GEE, I AR GANGSTR!!!1!" and ends up sounding like they didn't even proofread their lyrics for grammatical errors. Call me picky, but anybody who uses "-a" instead of "-er" and isn't speaking Japanese needs to go grab a dictionary and learn to spell.

And the final band I'm going to nominate is none other than Bass Hunter. He's good, but he's not that wonderful, and after the ten-thousandth time of hearing "DotA", I'm about ready to rip someone's head off. Trance is good, and by no means do I want to sound like it's something that should be outlawed from music (like other genres...), but, at least in my circle of friends, there is much to be said about moderation.
 

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I've got a personal hate on for Nirvana and Metallica, but that's because I can't take atonal punk or any flavor of metal that doesn't have "hair" in front of it.
 

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aruseusx said:
As much as I sound like a mustaine lover right now : Metallica and the fans of metallica who refuse to give Megadeth a chance. (Seriously give Megadeth an actual chance you will be suprised)
Agreed. I used to be a Metallica fanboy who hated Megadeth, but after hearing Tornado of Souls, i loved Megadeth straight away; Rust in Peace is a better album than most of Metallica's classics, and when both bands went mainstream in the 90's, Megadeth's stuff was better
 

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NIHILHATE said:
Megadeth, AC/DC, Cannibal corpse, Judas priest, Kings of leon, Queens of the stone age, The Foo fighters, My chemical Fucking romance , Dio, The Smiths , Streofuckoffonics, There's so fucking many.
Awww... but MCR is hilarious because they try to be emo, and The Smiths is classic Goth material! Surprised you didn't include The Cure!

No, but seriously, I agree that MCR gets way too much credit, even if The Black Parade was pretty awesome. The Smiths I'll respectably disagree... I haven't stopped singing "How Soon Is Now?" since the first time I heard it about two weeks ago... xD

OT: Nickelback. They're awesome, they're an interesting cross between southern rock and hard rock, but GOOD LORD they're overhyped.

And Tool. Don't get me wrong, they, too, are awesome, but so many people have a Maynard-gasm upon hearing the beginning of "Vicarious", "Jambi", and "Schism" that it's ridiculous...

And yeah, because everybody else has mentioned it, I'll jump on the bandwagon. Dragonforce. They're amazingly fast and accurate, and they are pretty awesome to see live, but it's true that all their songs sound the exact same... Blind Guardian is better any day, in my book.
 

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Greenday. 3 chord pop gash at its worst.
Green Day. Two words. Get it right. Saying its bad cos of the 3 chord style is like saying Metallica is bad cos it has heavy guitars, its the style of music. Personally I think Green Day is one of the best things that happened to punk since the first wave bands of the '70s. They are best viewed as a politically motivated band that write all of their music because they enjoy music themselves and want to voice their opinion.
Not being a fan I don't get bent out of shape if their name isn't written correctly. It's not that important. It was my opinion and I'm entited to it. To call them punk is to use the word in the loosest sense imaginable in the same way McFly or Busted were "punk". It's pop music.

As for Billy Joe's political motivations... I cringe whenever he starts talking politics. I don't care what some uneducated, mediocre, musician thinks about the state of government. Stick to music for 14 year olds.
 

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Suikun said:
I haven't stopped singing "How Soon Is Now?" since the first time I heard it about two weeks ago... xD
Well in that case, I'm going to assume you've only just recently gotten into the Smiths, and I pray that you take the opportunity to take a look at their other work. I don't think the Smiths are overrated, but I certainly believe "How Soon Is Now" to be the most overrated song they ever made. Strangeways is my avatar.

I'm going to vote anything that can be classified as rap or hip-hop and AC-DC. I'm vaguely aware that AC-DC is supposed to be good, but I am sick to the teeth of hearing that they end up at the top of every "Best Rock-Band of all Time" countdown things. It's not that I'm just sick of hearing about them, but their sound begins to grate on my nerves very quickly, and I seriously doubt they deserve all the hype they have.
 

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HaddsSparx said:
aruseusx said:
As much as I sound like a mustaine lover right now : Metallica and the fans of metallica who refuse to give Megadeth a chance. (Seriously give Megadeth an actual chance you will be suprised)
finally someone who agrees with me Metallica are a bunch of sell-outs now 1989 onwards it all went downhill. Megadeth's new album Endgame is better than Death Magnetic
Make that two people that agree with you. I lost all respect for Metallica back in 89-90 when they publicly claimed that you would ever see any Metallica merchandise other than the usual gig posters and T-shirts, because they refused to sell out.

And what did I find less than a year later? Metallica lunchboxes, Metallica pillowcases, Metallica curtains, etc. Then "And Justice for All" came out and I saw the "Enter Sandman" video. Need I say more?

I had the distinct pleasure of talking to Dave Mustaine about 15 years ago when my friend's band opened for Megadeth in Calgary, and I have to tell you I was sorry when it was over. Mustaine is one of the most intelligent, thoughtful and eloquent people I've ever met. Not once did he sound like fucking Lars fucking Ulrich fucking bitching fucking about fucking everything fuck. So yes I agree, if you want intelligent metal, LISTEN TO MEGADETH.
 

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Andronicus said:
Suikun said:
I haven't stopped singing "How Soon Is Now?" since the first time I heard it about two weeks ago... xD
Well in that case, I'm going to assume you've only just recently gotten into the Smiths, and I pray that you take the opportunity to take a look at their other work. I don't think the Smiths are overrated, but I certainly believe "How Soon Is Now" to be the most overrated song they ever made.
Amen to that. As a Smiths fan from way back I agree that they have a LOT better songs than "How Soon is Now?"

Suikin: If you're into the Smiths, I would recommend you check out some other great stuff from the 80's-90's like The Cure, Happy Mondays, Joy Division (Personal Favourite)and New Order. There was a TON of awesome music from way back when, it wasn't all 99 Red balloons and fucking U2.

Yeah, I'm old.
 

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bjj hero said:
SpAc3man said:
bjj hero said:
Greenday. 3 chord pop gash at its worst.
Green Day. Two words. Get it right. Saying its bad cos of the 3 chord style is like saying Metallica is bad cos it has heavy guitars, its the style of music. Personally I think Green Day is one of the best things that happened to punk since the first wave bands of the '70s. They are best viewed as a politically motivated band that write all of their music because they enjoy music themselves and want to voice their opinion.
Not being a fan I don't get bent out of shape if their name isn't written correctly. It's not that important. It was my opinion and I'm entited to it. Too call them punk is to use the word in the loosest sense imaginable in the same way McFly or busted were "punk". It's pop music.

As for Billy Joes political motivations... I cringe whenever he starts talking politics. I don't care what some uneducated, mediocre, musician thinks about the state of government. Stick to music for 14 year olds.
I begrudgingly agree. If Green Day is a punk band, then Avril Lavigne is the new Wendy O Williams...
 

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Oasis, Coldplay, Radiohead, U2, Muse, lady Gaga, Dizzy rascal, The Beatles, Kanye west I really could just keep going but they are the most overrated in the world..... OH wait how could i forget Kings of (swearword of your choice hear) leon
 

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ideitbawx said:
Nazulu said:
Superior Mind said:
Nazulu said:
Superior Mind said:
Led Zeppelin. Kind of like Nirvana in that there are people who think they're the best thing to happen to music ever but really they don't have all that many good songs. Good, sure, not great.
I don't think you listened to them at all if you really think songs like Stairway to Heaven and Kashmir aren't great songs.
Stairway has lost pretty much all it's appeal to me, blame overplaying.
As for Kashmir - it's cool and all but it hasn't aged well. That's probably Led Zep's problem; their songs don't age well.
It wasn't a great song the first time you heard it? And how does Kashmir not age well? One of the greatest riffs and melodics I have ever heard.
my band used to play kashmir. it's basically a d chord played slowly for 8 and a half minutes. sorry man, but i always found it a boring song. they have much better stuff than that
Well it's either not your type of song or your not a good musician to mix it up a little.
 

Andronicus

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Undercover said:
Andronicus said:
Suikun said:
I haven't stopped singing "How Soon Is Now?" since the first time I heard it about two weeks ago... xD
Well in that case, I'm going to assume you've only just recently gotten into the Smiths, and I pray that you take the opportunity to take a look at their other work. I don't think the Smiths are overrated, but I certainly believe "How Soon Is Now" to be the most overrated song they ever made.
Amen to that. As a Smiths fan from way back I agree that they have a LOT better songs than "How Soon is Now?"

Suikin: If you're into the Smiths, I would recommend you check out some other great stuff from the 80's-90's like The Cure, Happy Mondays, Joy Division (Personal Favourite)and New Order. There was a TON of awesome music from way back when, it wasn't all 99 Red balloons and fucking U2.

Yeah, I'm old.
Pfft, I'm only 18 and I listen to this stuff, so don't feel old. I'd recommend checking all those out, plus Echo and the Bunnymen (My second personal favourite, Smiths being the first), Tears for Fears, Talking Heads, Roxy Music and you could try Depeche Mode too. They're not quite as heavy as the stuff you're likely to find in, say, Joy Division's work, but they're all quite good.
 

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Andronicus said:
Undercover said:
Andronicus said:
Suikun said:
I haven't stopped singing "How Soon Is Now?" since the first time I heard it about two weeks ago... xD
Well in that case, I'm going to assume you've only just recently gotten into the Smiths, and I pray that you take the opportunity to take a look at their other work. I don't think the Smiths are overrated, but I certainly believe "How Soon Is Now" to be the most overrated song they ever made.
Amen to that. As a Smiths fan from way back I agree that they have a LOT better songs than "How Soon is Now?"

Suikin: If you're into the Smiths, I would recommend you check out some other great stuff from the 80's-90's like The Cure, Happy Mondays, Joy Division (Personal Favourite)and New Order. There was a TON of awesome music from way back when, it wasn't all 99 Red balloons and fucking U2.

Yeah, I'm old.
Pfft, I'm only 18 and I listen to this stuff, so don't feel old. I'd recommend checking all those out, plus Echo and the Bunnymen (My second personal favourite, Smiths being the first), Tears for Fears, Talking Heads, Roxy Music and you could try Depeche Mode too. They're not quite as heavy as the stuff you're likely to find in, say, Joy Division's work, but they're all quite good.
(Sniff) No I'm not crying, I have something in my eye... Andronicus, you give me hope for tomorrow my friend, as long as open minded younger people like you are around, that is ;) I totally forgot about Echo & The Bunnymen et. al. but yes they are ALL outstanding bands from a decade of music that was saturated by shitty new-wave pop. If anything more obscure comes to mind I'll let you know, cuz you know, I was there and everything.
 

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Well with a few exceptions you can point at MTV and say "THAT". They are responsible for most of the overhype.
Personally I really dont care for Metallica.