All the aesthetic engineering in the world accounts for nothing if it still tastes inferior.Hal10k said:
Pancakes!
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Now you're just grasping at straws. We have a delightful interplay between a crisp crust and pockets of sweet syrup. You have a sponge. Obviously your proletarian conceptions of high-maintenance batter-based breakfast foods are too unrefined to grasp the true magnitude of the brilliance of waffles.Daystar Clarion said:
Oh thank heavens. I almost popped my third monocle this week!Daystar Clarion said:
If I may throw my opinion at this waffles vs. pancakes kerfuffle:
I find that pancakes have a more familial feel, conjuring up memories of childhood pancake days and flipping catastrophes, while waffles simply taste rather nice.
[sub]...Also I don't remember Waffle Day being on any calender I've ever seen. In your faces.
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Daystar Clarion said:
Cranberry syrup, Saskatoon berries and waffle. King of breakfast, king of taste.
Your pancakes are invalid.
Another example of style over substance.Hal10k said:
Yes, the waffle may be perfectly engineered, but it lacks the soul of the pancake.
Pancakes are the height of rustic perfection. The creation of waffles is an insult to everything the pancake stands for.
Simplicity and soul.
The vast majority of pancakes I've ever had (of both styles mind you) have tasted more leathery and less rich than the majesty of the waffle. Plus the syrup just rolls off onto the plate as opposed to staying in the nice compartments of the waffle for your delight. But to each their own.Jedamethis said:
I see your assertion of dominance and would like to propose a counter.
Yes Colonial pancakes are easier to make, however that does not make them inferior. In fact that very ease makes the true art of making them that much harder to master. It is so easy to get complacent since no matter what the pancake is going to taste good. However there are a few out there, myself included, who strive to keep our skills sharp, who make batter from scratch, experimenting with different amounts of ingredients, making sure every single one is fluffy and golden brown.
In my grand library of american breakfast cuisine I have pancakes with sausage and maple baked right in, I have pancakes that are thin and crispy, I have pancakes that taste like soft fluffy biscuits! Every kind either passed down from my grandmother or of my own design. I resent your statement that my pancakes are inferior and will raise my spatula proudly in defense of the Colonial pancake!
Yes Colonial pancakes are easier to make, however that does not make them inferior. In fact that very ease makes the true art of making them that much harder to master. It is so easy to get complacent since no matter what the pancake is going to taste good. However there are a few out there, myself included, who strive to keep our skills sharp, who make batter from scratch, experimenting with different amounts of ingredients, making sure every single one is fluffy and golden brown.
In my grand library of american breakfast cuisine I have pancakes with sausage and maple baked right in, I have pancakes that are thin and crispy, I have pancakes that taste like soft fluffy biscuits! Every kind either passed down from my grandmother or of my own design. I resent your statement that my pancakes are inferior and will raise my spatula proudly in defense of the Colonial pancake!
Simplicity and soul? Would you have us return to the trees then, my good man? Advances in technology bring us new and brighter avenues in civilization, and breakfast of all things is not exempt from this. To reject the waffle out of familiarity to the pancake is to reject brick and mortar out of familiarity to the mud hut. Progress, my dear boy, the waffle is progress, and your waffle is just another relic of a rightfully forgotten past.Daystar Clarion said:
Leathery? Syrup rolls off?! Heavens! I suspect you were sorely neglected, and left untrained in the arts of making and eating pancakes. Although I admit I myself have trouble with syrup sometimes. Which is why I stick with sugar, cinnamon, and lemon juice.Redlin5 said:
But Daystar, you haven't diverged in what is and what isn't supposed to be on pancakes! The last thing you'd want is some non-Brit trying to eat it oven-baked with gravy or turnips; like someone from Cornwall - those non-Brits... I had whipped cream a minute ago with some blueberries and banana, but an hour ago I was eating sugar and lemon juice and later I plan on eating EVEN MOAR with ice cream and chocolate sauce
It's about The Flip[sup]TM[/sup]. None of those things matter, if The Flip[sup]TM[/sup] isn't perfect. Colonial pancakes require no skill to flip, they're too rigid to be fully imbued with the power of The Flip[sup]TM[/sup].Cpu46 said:
THE FLIP[sup]TM[/sup]
Brick and mortar houses are better than mud huts.Hal10k said:
Waffles just look nicer than pancakes, not taste better.
This is not opinion. This is fact, proven by scientific discoveries in science by scientifically trained scientists.
These were restaurant quality pancakes. Nay my friend, whenever I compared even the best example of pancake to the average waffle I enjoy, the waffle wins. But do we need to battle over the different tastes of different regions? A childhood of Saskatchewan style Belgium Waffles covered with Saskatoon berries, strawberries, raspberries and black berries while covered in delicious maple syrup and whipped cream versus whatever your childhood breakfast culinary memories are? The world is wide and the menu of the morning is just as varied.Jedamethis said:
While I am all for trying new things, I know what I love and what I've tried before. That is why my stance on the morning waffle being the greatest meal one can enjoy is steadfast.
Alright then, come here and prove it. Bring your best example of pancake to Saskatchewan and I will challenge your assertion that your pancakes are better in taste than that of the local variety of prairie waffle.Daystar Clarion said:
I will wait.
Sadly, I suspect restaurant quality is not quite good enough anymore. But lets not get into that.Redlin5 said:
Goodness gracious, that does sound rather lovely. Perhaps a compromise could be reached that I might be a slight pig and eat everything? Perhaps waffles for breakfast, pancakes after dinner... but what for lunch?
I will not stand by and let let that sort of rhetoric pass. We are having an educated discussion here, and that mandates that sources be both cited and capable of standing up to academic peer review. Show me some of these studies of yours, and don't come back here with one of your "Free Breakfast" think tanks of yours.Daystar Clarion said:
[HEADING=1]science![/HEADING]Hal10k said:
I don't need proof, I have science!
Pancake science!
[sub]I actually like both, but for the sake of humour, I shall continue to be contrary.[/sub]
Science serves he who wields it best, Daystar, and in this case science is wielded by the mighty waffle. The waffle, as previously stated, is a pinnacle of structural engineering, and I refuse to accept the idea that anything so masterfully crafted could be deemed scientifically inferior. I will diagram for you the superiority of the waffle if need be. I will provide you witha schematic of precisely how my waffle is going to *****-slap your pancake.Daystar Clarion said: