Party Chat Leaves MW2, Internet Starts Petition. Again.

[Octorok]

I really could copy and paste another post I had made on the same topic, but the OP seems a bit more aggressive, and I'd probably get called out on it. (it was very sarcastic)

Anyway, in less words, deal with it. You say you hate idiots? (hit mute or just disconnect your microphone) Y'know what I hate? PEOPLE IN PARTIES (OR NOT TALKING) WHILST PLAYING A TEAM GAME. Talk to your team, if they talk back coherently, it's strategy, you'll win! Try it, guaranteed within 15 days to make you suck less!
And hey, must you be blabbin' to your friends every minute of every day? I'd assume not.

I prefer to game with friends instead of alone. That's hardly unreasonable.

As for strategy... HA! In CoD? HA! There is no strategy. Nobody ever talks tactics or teamwork. Try it and nobody plays along. You just start talking military nonsense and nobody talks because they're all in parties, or don't care. Proper, professional clans use genuine teamwork, not randoms on the internet. You don't need teamwork. Anybody half clever enough to play with strategy is probably playing with friends, happier by themselves or will help you out without talking.

Left 4 Dead? Borderlands? Operation Flashpoinr : Dragon Rising? See a theme? They pretty much require chat. No mic in L4D and that Witch'll gut your team alive. No speaky in Borderlands and a group of Badass Corrosive Alphas will gnaw your legs off. And not talking in OF : DR is nuts, you'll just die. Because it is a realistic shooter. Vaguely anyway. Not the kind of Call of Duty "reealizm" that surmounts to good graphics and human looking environments.

In Call of Duty you just don't need to talk, but IW thinks that instead of having a relaxed game talking to my friends I have to, with no options, speak to my team.

 

[Octorok]

You cannot be in any party at all as long as you are in any game modes other than those three.

Seriously? Because until I have an actual retail box in my hand and that message is on my screen then I won't fully believe that a developer has made such a nonsensical move. They're removing a major feature (and one of the main features of the NXE when it was released last year) of the Live service...

Maybe IW think this will encourage teamwork as you can only talk to your team and no one else in-game.

It's true dude. Screenshots and everything.

 

[lord canti]

Since when did gamers become a bunch of whiny little brats?

 

[Lukeydoodly]

Wait, I have to talk to my fucking team? Fuck that, it's me vs the other team. I don't give a shit about my team mates as they usually suck. I want to talk to my friends no matter what game they are playing.

 

[Sassafrass]

Has IW confirmed this on their site? If so, link me please. I'll add my thoughts at a later time.

 

[D_987]

I really could copy and paste another post I had made on the same topic, but the OP seems a bit more aggressive, and I'd probably get called out on it. (it was very sarcastic)

Anyway, in less words, deal with it. You say you hate idiots? (hit mute or just disconnect your microphone) Y'know what I hate? PEOPLE IN PARTIES WHILST PLAYING A TEAM GAME. Talk to your team, if they talk back coherently, it's strategy, you'll win!

Guess what - I'd call you one of those idiots - use your brain before you post.

You think I really want everyone hearing my private conversations with friends. No, of course not - nor do you want to hear me - so why force me to talk. Besides since when is CoD a "team game" it's pretty much one of the only games in which a single player can win a match for a team - at least in public lobbies on which this ridiculous move takes place.

Furthur more it's kinda ironic that you tell people to mute yet claim they should play as a team - why should I "play as a team" on team deathmatch? What team-work could possibly be involved.

The only people who actually support this move seem t be morons who believe that people in party chat are "cheating" them or people who don't use party chat and therefore do not understand the situation. Even if that was true (and lets face it, it's not) it's a public match - why do you care about the result so very badly?

...and what about those not playing CoD? Why should I be forced to play in silence, because that's what the majority will do - I for one will just mute everyone in a lobby instantly. People who use game chat on XBL are 90% of the time trash-talkers or MLG wanna-b's.

 

[Reaperman64]

i actually read the entire rant and TLDR just too make sure i had it right.
any form of game i play, im in a party unless its a particularly atmospheric game (dead space)
this is rediculous, i mean the whole 5 seconds of pointless info will really swing the match, and even then cant you just tell them upon spawn?
its a game IW let me play. i am not competing, i a playing!

 

[Citrus]

Damn, gaming culture makes me sad sometimes.

Sure, I can see why this would be an undesirable feature, but the utter gravity of the situation seems to be lost on me. So you can only talk to your friends if they're playing with you. Sure, if it bothers you that much, make a petition and see what happens. But is it really worth any more than that? Is it worth the massive paragraphs and lengthy debates over internet forums? I don't think so.

 

[EMFCRACKSHOT]

Since when did gamers become a bunch of whiny little brats?

I dont know whether or not you are getting the game, but would you not also be more than a little pissed if a company took away a feature you pay a different comapany for?
Not only does it piss me off that i have to listen to randomers, the very principle of the thing is enough to make me set fire to iw's head office.

 

[clzark]

Just get all of your friends together, and join a game...TOGETHER. You can talk to friends now!

Whats wrong with people???

Furthermore, you can still mute the people you don't wish to listen to. It's really not going to be all that different. The only real impact is that you can't talk to people not playing MW2 while you're playing it - good, that should help your concentration.

That's a very big difference. Plus, muting requires you to find the guy in the screen and muting him. Not very long, only a few seconds, but an unnecessary hassle, just because I can't talk to my friends who haven't bought the game, haven't bought the game yet, or are playing something else or are just not in my exact game, on my team.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

you are one of the reasons I like party chat.
you don't deserve a name quoted from robot chicken
anyway, back on topic, this bugs me. it's a video game. talking to my friends makes the game even more fun for me. so...they're taking away something fun. look, I play CoD4 for fun, not so I can "pwn evry1" and try to have the best kill/death ratio. I really don't care about that stuff...I just wanna have a good time with my friends

 

[Octorok]

Since when did gamers become a bunch of whiny little brats?

I dont know whether or not you are getting the game, but would you not also be more than a little pissed if a company took away a feature you pay a different comapany for?
Not only does it piss me off that i have to listen to randomers, the very principle of the thing is enough to make me set fire to iw's head office.

Egg-fucking-zactly.

I pay ~£30 a year to talk to my friends. I like this feature. I also pay to play online. I like this feature.

I then pay another £45 for MW2, so that I can enjoy that feature of the 360 too. "NO WAIT!" Scream IW, "WE LURVE CHANGE SO MUCH, WE'RE GOING TO FUCK UP A PERFECTLY GOOD SYSTEM!". I pay one company to make games and I pay another company to let me play them. Why the fuck should both companies get together and think of a way to piss me off, the paying customer?

 

[irishstormtrooper]

I've said this about the last petition, and I'll say it again. Your petition will do nothing except have some names and demands on a thread. Infinity Ward made their decision, and too few people will care enough to change their mind. Even if they were convinced, it's too late in the game to change anything. The game comes out in what, two weeks? They'll be too busy fixing bugs to put in party chat.

People have to learn internet petitions do nothing. [HEADING=2]Nothing.[/HEADING]

 

[lizards]

are you fucking serious? i mean really this is a serious thread and not a joke?

what the fuck do you think game chat is? a bleak an meaningless void where chat is banned? the ONLY thing that party chat does is allow you to cheat ONLY ONLY ONLY

in gears of war this is a very strong when its 1on1 or even when 1 person on a team is dead that person(s) tells information to the rest like if someone is sneaking up behind them

stop bitching this is something that should be done for all games

 

[Paragon Fury]

...and even if you think I'm wrong, help me out and sign it.

...I'm sorry, are you asking us to lie on your behalf, even if we don't agree with you?

How is it lying? I'm not asking you to complain, just send a name and an email address as a favour even if you think I might be wrong.

If you really are opposed to me and have thought all your life that Part Chat is demonspawn then go ahead and don't, but I'm aiming at indifferent people mostly.

Just get all of your friends together, and join a game...TOGETHER. You can talk to friends now!

Whats wrong with people???

They're not all buying MW2, and they're not all playing it at the same time as me. Why the fuck should we be separated so that I can't tell some idiots some information in the few seconds it takes me to watch KillCamm?

1: Thats dishonest. If we don't agree, we're not going to support you.

2: Its a lot more common than you think, and it basically amounted to cheating in the HC modes.

3: If you don't want to hear people, go to your Settings and turn voice comms off while playing.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

But..Party chat is awesome. Ahh, well I'm not getting MW2 anyways, so what's it matter?

 

[Lukeydoodly]

are you fucking serious? i mean really this is a serious thread and not a joke?

what the fuck do you think game chat is? a bleak an meaningless void where chat is banned? the ONLY thing that party chat does is allow you to cheat ONLY ONLY ONLY

in gears of war this is a very strong when its 1on1 or even when 1 person on a team is dead that person(s) tells information to the rest like if someone is sneaking up behind them

stop bitching this is something that should be done for all games

Your right! When I talk to my friends who are playing different games I am cheating! As you said, it's only for cheating!

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Just get all of your friends together, and join a game...TOGETHER. You can talk to friends now!

Whats wrong with people???

Furthermore, you can still mute the people you don't wish to listen to. It's really not going to be all that different. The only real impact is that you can't talk to people not playing MW2 while you're playing it - good, that should help your concentration.

That's a very big difference. Plus, muting requires you to find the guy in the screen and muting him. Not very long, only a few seconds, but an unnecessary hassle, just because I can't talk to my friends who haven't bought the game, haven't bought the game yet, or are playing something else or are just not in my exact game, on my team.

I agree with your OP and I agree with this post.

I live in Ireland. Me and my buddies have to switch lobbies often when the host gets switched to someone in the US, as playing COD with almost a whole second of host advantage is one of the most frustrating things you can do as a gamer.

I really don't want to have to go and hit mute on every player at the start of every game.

Nor do I want random idiotic fuckwits making lewd comments when we are caually chatting over live and mention our mothers, girlfriends or sisters.

This step is going to make MW2 a much less fun game to play for me and my friends.

 

[Octorok]

are you fucking serious? i mean really this is a serious thread and not a joke?

what the fuck do you think game chat is? a bleak an meaningless void where chat is banned? the ONLY thing that party chat does is allow you to cheat ONLY ONLY ONLY

in gears of war this is a very strong when its 1on1 or even when 1 person on a team is dead that person(s) tells information to the rest like if someone is sneaking up behind them

stop bitching this is something that should be done for all games

What? You post that and then ask me if I'm joking? Seriously?

I'm not going to bother to answer. How is it a "problem" that I want to talk to my friends?

And you label yourself as being... well, I won't be rude, but you say that party chat is just for cheaters? I started playing The Ballad Of Gay Tony today, and laughed at a joke in it amongst my friends. Then I played some WaW multiplayer and I continued my conversation with them.

I was soooo cheating by doing that. I was cheating by talking with my friends, all playing a different game? And when I'm playing Single Player in party chat, am I cheating the NPCs in some way?

Or what about Co-Op. I want to play Saints Row 2 Co-Op with a friend in a party of four. Why should I leave the party to talk to the guy, when I can talk to him and my other friends in the party? The same applies to MP, only this time, it's being enforced by people with the power to do something other than make rash generalizations and poorly constructed arguments.

Man, gamers are a bunch of self righteous whiners lately. "I don't agree with something, petition! Boycott! ZOMG!"

Christ, if we're not bitching about one thing we're bitching about something else. Forget all the changes for the better the game has made, damn it they took something we're paying for so we deserve it!

Is it ironic that I'd rather use general chat to play with people who don't give a shit? Party chats these days seem to be nothing but a means for elitists to ***** about what they don't like.

It is rather self-righteous, and actually a bit bitchy, but for a reason this time. I'm not complaining about something petty, or even something in the game at all. I'm complaining because the game makers are literally forcing me to abandon my friendly chats with my friends, for the purpose of stopping a minority of people. we've got something to complain about.

 

[lizards]

are you fucking serious? i mean really this is a serious thread and not a joke?

what the fuck do you think game chat is? a bleak an meaningless void where chat is banned? the ONLY thing that party chat does is allow you to cheat ONLY ONLY ONLY

in gears of war this is a very strong when its 1on1 or even when 1 person on a team is dead that person(s) tells information to the rest like if someone is sneaking up behind them

stop bitching this is something that should be done for all games

Your right! When I talk to my friends who are playing different games I am cheating! As you said, it's only for cheating!

how my god how i pity you

you will only be able to talk to ONLINE FRIENDS in the same game WAIT A SECOND there is that thing called PRIVATE CHAT