Party Chat Leaves MW2, Internet Starts Petition. Again.

[JeanLuc761]

In the words of Allen Iverson, "We're talking about practice" or in this case "We're talking about party chat!"

Come on man, you are bitching and complaining about the smallest of things. I did not mean 1337 players either. I meant players who play for the same reasons you do.

Moreover you, the imbecile, is trying to get us to sign an internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it. IW is trying to make the game more competitive, more then likely due to MLG, because all of the changes have been done in a competitive sort of way. Now whether this is right or wrong is a matter of opinion, and as such I cannot understand why you are complaining , You call me a douchebag when all you have done is cut down others and made a jack ass of yourself, sure I took a shot at you, but hey you are qqing at something so small that it is pretty sad.

If you dont like it, dont buy the game...simple enough.

The point in bold kinda takes a nose dive when you remember they took away dedicated servers and mods on PC, which effectively eliminates all clan/team-based competition. Yes, I'm aware MLG is console-based.

As for your point on "...internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it." Really, is it better to just sit around and do nothing while the quality of the game gets degraded? Give me a break.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

OK, all of you people saying "Oh boo hoo go whine about something else" have obviously never used this feature. Ever since the NXE, there hasn't been one time that I haven't used this feature while playing with friends.

I agree that it should be restricted in Search and Destroy, but every other mode? I don't even talk when I'm not in a party. You know why? I'll say to my friend "You know, we should invite ____ after this game". This is promptly greeted by at least 3 10-year-olds named "X supA sn1p3r ii x" yelling "Shut up you ****** or I'll fuck your mum!".

I despise playing with random people for this reason. If the team isn't a bunch of loudmouth idiots, it's the polar opposite, where NOBODY talks. Other than Searh and Destroy with friends, there is no strategy to be discussed in COD. Even then, we'd rather talk about what happened today or a funny video we saw. You know why? It's just a fucking game that I play to relax! Since when does the game need to have tournament-strict rules? I don't want to win that badly.

To people saying "Use private chat then", well, no, you can't. That's one on one, which is pretty much useless. Also, to people saying "get a party of friends so you're all on the same team", you are constantly interrupted by loading screens and the shouts of the other team in the lobby, as the OP said. I, for one, don't want to have to go back to muting each person individually on the team at the beginning of every game.

Yes, the amount of petitions are getting annoying, but this one hits millions of people hard. We paid for this feature, and it greatly increases our enjoyment of the game, so why not protest? Sure it probably won't do anything, but at least IW knows how many people it pissed off. We're also protesting about something that will seriously hamper the game experience, not something insignificant like "we wAnTz m0r3 m0dez hurhur r1p0ff!". What's next, removing headset use during the game? How about not being able to use the dashboard in-game beacuse of its potential for distraction? The point is, this is not IW's feature to restrict. I want what I paid for, end of story.

If you want to quote me to tell me to stop bitching, then don't. You won't change my mind, you'll only piss me off. This thread is to round up support for the petition, not question its validity.

Thanks y'all.

I have to say I agree with the petition but I have to laugh at the this one affects millions of people the other one affects a similar level of people and at a similar if not increase magnitude.

I love see how even though they are doing it to you know you still need to get your stab at PC gamers at something that was also been given to us and something we have had since the begining is being taken away.

 

[Octorok]

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That's ridiculous. How can you call it cheating anyway? If you're in a party with friends, chances are you're going to be in THEIR fucking team. My god, I'm signing that petition and I hope a lot more people do too.

By the way, does my username strike you as one which would be the creation of an idiot?

No.... it may be prejudice, because I've gotten to know you as the intelligent, but sad, knight box thing in black and white.

Now xVaNgUaRdxx3Xii would be a different matter.

I see...sad as in emotional, or like pitiful?

Tearful sad, so emotional. I don't think I've ever felt so much pity that I cried.

That wasn't so much a long, eloquent rant as it was obscene and unintelligible. Still, you made your point in a way that resonates with me, a non-CoD player. Good on you, I guess. I'll consider signing.

True. I cut down on length and the eloquence is lost when I'm cross.

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I...I... I'm genuinely going to stop answering now, I'm that flabbergasted at your own disregard for anything anybody has said.

 

[Soulkiller3]

Poeple pertioning is pointless just dont buy the game, which is what i desided to do when they screwed over the pc player.

 

[Fumbles]

In the words of Allen Iverson, "We're talking about practice" or in this case "We're talking about party chat!"

Come on man, you are bitching and complaining about the smallest of things. I did not mean 1337 players either. I meant players who play for the same reasons you do.

Moreover you, the imbecile, is trying to get us to sign an internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it. IW is trying to make the game more competitive, more then likely due to MLG, because all of the changes have been done in a competitive sort of way. Now whether this is right or wrong is a matter of opinion, and as such I cannot understand why you are complaining , You call me a douchebag when all you have done is cut down others and made a jack ass of yourself, sure I took a shot at you, but hey you are qqing at something so small that it is pretty sad.

If you dont like it, dont buy the game...simple enough.

The point in bold kinda takes a nose dive when you remember they took away dedicated servers and mods on PC, which effectively eliminates all clan/team-based competition. Yes, I'm aware MLG is console-based.

As for your point on "...internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it." Really, is it better to just sit around and do nothing while the quality of the game gets degraded? Give me a break.

A no it doesn't Halo 3 is at MLG and it does fine. MLG is pretty much consoles ( Sorry I just noticed you said this), which do not use dedicated servers.
The quality of the game is not degraded by party chat. Its not like IW took out the ability to shoot while you are running.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Tearful sad, so emotional. I don't think I've ever felt so much pity that I cried.

I see whatcha did there...I think.

 

[Octorok]

In the words of Allen Iverson, "We're talking about practice" or in this case "We're talking about party chat!"

Come on man, you are bitching and complaining about the smallest of things. I did not mean 1337 players either. I meant players who play for the same reasons you do.

Moreover you, the imbecile, is trying to get us to sign an internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it. IW is trying to make the game more competitive, more then likely due to MLG, because all of the changes have been done in a competitive sort of way. Now whether this is right or wrong is a matter of opinion, and as such I cannot understand why you are complaining , You call me a douchebag when all you have done is cut down others and made a jack ass of yourself, sure I took a shot at you, but hey you are qqing at something so small that it is pretty sad.

If you dont like it, dont buy the game...simple enough.

The point in bold kinda takes a nose dive when you remember they took away dedicated servers and mods on PC, which effectively eliminates all clan/team-based competition. Yes, I'm aware MLG is console-based.

As for your point on "...internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it." Really, is it better to just sit around and do nothing while the quality of the game gets degraded? Give me a break.

A no it doesn't Halo 3 is at MLG and it does fine. MLG is pretty much consoles, which do not use dedicated servers.

Look, you seem to be operating under the delusion that everyone is interested in the hardcore of gaming that comes with "MLG". I loathe MLG, not just because of the number of idiots with it in their Gamertags just to be cool, but for the exact reasons you mentioned. No way in hell would a game company degrade the quality of the game for the masses to satisfy the pointless whims of people who prefer to play like l337 pros. What the hell do you mean "Halo 3 is at MLG"? I'm actually just curious as to what that means.

IW actually said, and I quote - "We're trying to make the game more open to everyone, new players and old". Why in the name of God would they make new guys feel welcome by making the game cater to the wants of the MLG?

No, this is not to make the game more competitive, they could have done that with different things in the game specifically, not just editing XBL for no reason. No, this is just a dick move.

 

[Toner]

Well, here we go again folks. Another petition - this time it's one I actually signed. Twice.

I'm sorry, but you lost me there.

Unless you have a severe case of schizophrenia or some kind of medical claim that you are indeed two people...you basically voided the whole thing.

Saying that you support this and signing the petition once is fine.

Signing it twice and admitting that fact however.... is the kind of thing that completely destroys any credibility such a petition could have had. What guarantees are there that someone else hasn't done the same thing? Or maybe 10 times? Or 100? None, as is the case with any petition. Credibility and trust are the two main things that make a petition actually stand a chance of doing anything, if you take those away for all anyone knows it could be just a list of fictitious people, all generated by a small man named Bob who lives in a basement. Or whatever. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for voicing your opinions in a reasonable and structured way, and a petition can be a good tool for that. But yeah... may as well just burn the small section of 'teh internetz' that contains it now its corrupted.

Congratulations for fighting for what you believe in and putting your name to it, but you could have easily prevented shooting yourself in the foot by not putting your name on it again.
Oh the beast that is online petitions is a fickle thing.

 

[Fumbles]

In the words of Allen Iverson, "We're talking about practice" or in this case "We're talking about party chat!"

Come on man, you are bitching and complaining about the smallest of things. I did not mean 1337 players either. I meant players who play for the same reasons you do.

Moreover you, the imbecile, is trying to get us to sign an internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it. IW is trying to make the game more competitive, more then likely due to MLG, because all of the changes have been done in a competitive sort of way. Now whether this is right or wrong is a matter of opinion, and as such I cannot understand why you are complaining , You call me a douchebag when all you have done is cut down others and made a jack ass of yourself, sure I took a shot at you, but hey you are qqing at something so small that it is pretty sad.

If you dont like it, dont buy the game...simple enough.

The point in bold kinda takes a nose dive when you remember they took away dedicated servers and mods on PC, which effectively eliminates all clan/team-based competition. Yes, I'm aware MLG is console-based.

As for your point on "...internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it." Really, is it better to just sit around and do nothing while the quality of the game gets degraded? Give me a break.

A no it doesn't Halo 3 is at MLG and it does fine. MLG is pretty much consoles, which do not use dedicated servers.

Look, you seem to be operating under the delusion that everyone is interested in the hardcore of gaming that comes with "MLG". I loathe MLG, not just because of the number of idiots with it in their Gamertags just to be cool, but for the exact reasons you mentioned. No way in hell would a game company degrade the quality of the game for the masses to satisfy the pointless whims of people who prefer to play like l337 pros. What the hell do you mean "Halo 3 is at MLG"? I'm actually just curious as to what that means.

IW actually said, and I quote - "We're trying to make the game more open to everyone, new players and old". Why in the name of God would they make new guys feel welcome by making the game cater to the wants of the MLG?

No, this is not to make the game more competitive, they could have done that with different things in the game specifically, not just editing XBL for no reason. No, this is just a dick move.

It means that Halo 3, which does not have dedicated servers, is at MLG and they do a fine job of stat tracking,leaderboards,etc.

Now I know that not everyone is into MLG, But there is alot of money coming from it, thats why they would cater to it. And you are right with the little MLG wannabes, xxxUnd3ad5partanzzxxx, are stupid assholes.

I can, believe it or not, see where you are coming from, you want to play "casually" and not listen to the "hardcore" 1337ness. I just mute the little fuckers. Put up or shut up. Now I know that you have said that this is more of a hassle, but we may just have to do it.

BTW yes I play "competitively" because I am a competitive person, but I would never make a your mom joke, or other 1337 douchery, I talk to my teammates and try to beat the shit out of the other team.

 

[Bat Vader]

It is rather self-righteous, and actually a bit bitchy, but for a reason this time. I'm not complaining about something petty

You're calling the Left 4 Dead 2 boycott and the CoD MW2 PC Multiplayer internet petition petty reasons to start a petition?

 

[Fumbles]

In the words of Allen Iverson, "We're talking about practice" or in this case "We're talking about party chat!"

Come on man, you are bitching and complaining about the smallest of things. I did not mean 1337 players either. I meant players who play for the same reasons you do.

Moreover you, the imbecile, is trying to get us to sign an internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it. IW is trying to make the game more competitive, more then likely due to MLG, because all of the changes have been done in a competitive sort of way. Now whether this is right or wrong is a matter of opinion, and as such I cannot understand why you are complaining , You call me a douchebag when all you have done is cut down others and made a jack ass of yourself, sure I took a shot at you, but hey you are qqing at something so small that it is pretty sad.

If you dont like it, dont buy the game...simple enough.

The point in bold kinda takes a nose dive when you remember they took away dedicated servers and mods on PC, which effectively eliminates all clan/team-based competition. Yes, I'm aware MLG is console-based.

As for your point on "...internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it." Really, is it better to just sit around and do nothing while the quality of the game gets degraded? Give me a break.

A no it doesn't Halo 3 is at MLG and it does fine. MLG is pretty much consoles, which do not use dedicated servers.

Look, you seem to be operating under the delusion that everyone is interested in the hardcore of gaming that comes with "MLG". I loathe MLG, not just because of the number of idiots with it in their Gamertags just to be cool, but for the exact reasons you mentioned. No way in hell would a game company degrade the quality of the game for the masses to satisfy the pointless whims of people who prefer to play like l337 pros. What the hell do you mean "Halo 3 is at MLG"? I'm actually just curious as to what that means.

IW actually said, and I quote - "We're trying to make the game more open to everyone, new players and old". Why in the name of God would they make new guys feel welcome by making the game cater to the wants of the MLG?

No, this is not to make the game more competitive, they could have done that with different things in the game specifically, not just editing XBL for no reason. No, this is just a dick move.

Also you may be wrong. Party chat may be in the game, just not fully supported.

http://kotaku.com/5395046/party-chat-not-fully-supported-in-modern-warfare-2

 

[TsunamiWombat]

Man this sucks!

There are no alternatives! Someone should really invent a means for a team to speak with one another.

Some way to vent ones frustrations.

Then we'd all be able to avoid the xfire.

He plays on 360, can't use Ventrilo.

I already gave up on buying this game anyway, so...

 

[Octorok]

In the words of Allen Iverson, "We're talking about practice" or in this case "We're talking about party chat!"

Come on man, you are bitching and complaining about the smallest of things. I did not mean 1337 players either. I meant players who play for the same reasons you do.

Moreover you, the imbecile, is trying to get us to sign an internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it. IW is trying to make the game more competitive, more then likely due to MLG, because all of the changes have been done in a competitive sort of way. Now whether this is right or wrong is a matter of opinion, and as such I cannot understand why you are complaining , You call me a douchebag when all you have done is cut down others and made a jack ass of yourself, sure I took a shot at you, but hey you are qqing at something so small that it is pretty sad.

If you dont like it, dont buy the game...simple enough.

The point in bold kinda takes a nose dive when you remember they took away dedicated servers and mods on PC, which effectively eliminates all clan/team-based competition. Yes, I'm aware MLG is console-based.

As for your point on "...internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it." Really, is it better to just sit around and do nothing while the quality of the game gets degraded? Give me a break.

A no it doesn't Halo 3 is at MLG and it does fine. MLG is pretty much consoles, which do not use dedicated servers.

Look, you seem to be operating under the delusion that everyone is interested in the hardcore of gaming that comes with "MLG". I loathe MLG, not just because of the number of idiots with it in their Gamertags just to be cool, but for the exact reasons you mentioned. No way in hell would a game company degrade the quality of the game for the masses to satisfy the pointless whims of people who prefer to play like l337 pros. What the hell do you mean "Halo 3 is at MLG"? I'm actually just curious as to what that means.

IW actually said, and I quote - "We're trying to make the game more open to everyone, new players and old". Why in the name of God would they make new guys feel welcome by making the game cater to the wants of the MLG?

No, this is not to make the game more competitive, they could have done that with different things in the game specifically, not just editing XBL for no reason. No, this is just a dick move.

It means that Halo 3, which does not have dedicated servers, is at MLG and they do a fine job of stat tracking,leaderboards,etc.

Now I know that not everyone is into MLG, But there is alot of money coming from it, thats why they would cater to it. And you are right with the little MLG wannabes, xxxUnd3ad5partanzzxxx, are stupid assholes.

I can, believe it or not, see where you are coming from, you want to play "casually" and not listen to the "hardcore" 1337ness. I just mute the little fuckers. Put up or shut up. Now I know that you have said that this is more of a hassle, but we may just have to do it.

BTW yes I play "competitively" because I am a competitive person, but I would never make a your mom joke, or other 1337 douchery, I talk to my teammates and try to beat the shit out of the other team.

Based on that I have no option to apologise for resorting to crass insults, since we are on two sides of a perfectly civil fence that I just kicked.

It is rather self-righteous, and actually a bit bitchy, but for a reason this time. I'm not complaining about something petty

You're calling the Left 4 Dead 2 boycott and the CoD MW2 PC Multiplayer internet petition petty reasons to start a petition?

No, I'm just stating that this isn't petty either. Actually, The MW2 PC Petition was very reasonable, but the L4D2 Boycott was a bit ridiculous. On percentages, more people in the Boycott bought the game than people outside of the Boycott, and unlike use trying to stop the devs ruining a game, they just seemed petty. They complained that the colours in L4D2 were all wrong for Christ's sake, and they just really didn't want Valve to charge them for a sequel they made in a year, a fair enough argument at first, until they really didn't want to pay for things that normally Valve gave us for free. True, L4D was never supported like TF2, but that doesn't mean that L4D2 can't be good.

In the words of Allen Iverson, "We're talking about practice" or in this case "We're talking about party chat!"

Come on man, you are bitching and complaining about the smallest of things. I did not mean 1337 players either. I meant players who play for the same reasons you do.

Moreover you, the imbecile, is trying to get us to sign an internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it. IW is trying to make the game more competitive, more then likely due to MLG, because all of the changes have been done in a competitive sort of way. Now whether this is right or wrong is a matter of opinion, and as such I cannot understand why you are complaining , You call me a douchebag when all you have done is cut down others and made a jack ass of yourself, sure I took a shot at you, but hey you are qqing at something so small that it is pretty sad.

If you dont like it, dont buy the game...simple enough.

The point in bold kinda takes a nose dive when you remember they took away dedicated servers and mods on PC, which effectively eliminates all clan/team-based competition. Yes, I'm aware MLG is console-based.

As for your point on "...internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it." Really, is it better to just sit around and do nothing while the quality of the game gets degraded? Give me a break.

A no it doesn't Halo 3 is at MLG and it does fine. MLG is pretty much consoles, which do not use dedicated servers.

Look, you seem to be operating under the delusion that everyone is interested in the hardcore of gaming that comes with "MLG". I loathe MLG, not just because of the number of idiots with it in their Gamertags just to be cool, but for the exact reasons you mentioned. No way in hell would a game company degrade the quality of the game for the masses to satisfy the pointless whims of people who prefer to play like l337 pros. What the hell do you mean "Halo 3 is at MLG"? I'm actually just curious as to what that means.

IW actually said, and I quote - "We're trying to make the game more open to everyone, new players and old". Why in the name of God would they make new guys feel welcome by making the game cater to the wants of the MLG?

No, this is not to make the game more competitive, they could have done that with different things in the game specifically, not just editing XBL for no reason. No, this is just a dick move.

Also you may be wrong. Party chat may be in the game, just not fully supported.

http://kotaku.com/5395046/party-chat-not-fully-supported-in-modern-warfare-2

Did... did you actually read that link? It says exactly what I said. The title may be worded differently, but Party Chat appears to be disabled in game types other than Merc TDM, FFA and Third Person Teams.

 

[Fumbles]

MAybe I misread it, I thought that it would be disabled in S&D (Which I haven't played, is it fun?) and TDM.

 

[Avatar Roku]

In the words of Allen Iverson, "We're talking about practice" or in this case "We're talking about party chat!"

Come on man, you are bitching and complaining about the smallest of things. I did not mean 1337 players either. I meant players who play for the same reasons you do.

Moreover you, the imbecile, is trying to get us to sign an internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it. IW is trying to make the game more competitive, more then likely due to MLG, because all of the changes have been done in a competitive sort of way. Now whether this is right or wrong is a matter of opinion, and as such I cannot understand why you are complaining , You call me a douchebag when all you have done is cut down others and made a jack ass of yourself, sure I took a shot at you, but hey you are qqing at something so small that it is pretty sad.

If you dont like it, dont buy the game...simple enough.

The point in bold kinda takes a nose dive when you remember they took away dedicated servers and mods on PC, which effectively eliminates all clan/team-based competition. Yes, I'm aware MLG is console-based.

As for your point on "...internet petition, that will not work, so why try to change it." Really, is it better to just sit around and do nothing while the quality of the game gets degraded? Give me a break.

A no it doesn't Halo 3 is at MLG and it does fine. MLG is pretty much consoles, which do not use dedicated servers.

Look, you seem to be operating under the delusion that everyone is interested in the hardcore of gaming that comes with "MLG". I loathe MLG, not just because of the number of idiots with it in their Gamertags just to be cool, but for the exact reasons you mentioned. No way in hell would a game company degrade the quality of the game for the masses to satisfy the pointless whims of people who prefer to play like l337 pros. What the hell do you mean "Halo 3 is at MLG"? I'm actually just curious as to what that means.

IW actually said, and I quote - "We're trying to make the game more open to everyone, new players and old". Why in the name of God would they make new guys feel welcome by making the game cater to the wants of the MLG?

No, this is not to make the game more competitive, they could have done that with different things in the game specifically, not just editing XBL for no reason. No, this is just a dick move.

It means that Halo 3, which does not have dedicated servers, is at MLG and they do a fine job of stat tracking,leaderboards,etc.

Now I know that not everyone is into MLG, But there is alot of money coming from it, thats why they would cater to it. And you are right with the little MLG wannabes, xxxUnd3ad5partanzzxxx, are stupid assholes.

I can, believe it or not, see where you are coming from, you want to play "casually" and not listen to the "hardcore" 1337ness. I just mute the little fuckers. Put up or shut up. Now I know that you have said that this is more of a hassle, but we may just have to do it.

BTW yes I play "competitively" because I am a competitive person, but I would never make a your mom joke, or other 1337 douchery, I talk to my teammates and try to beat the shit out of the other team.

No, you don't see where we're coming from, or at least only partially. Yes, being mixed in with the normal Douches you get on XBL is one of the things that we're complaining about, but the main thing (for me, at least) is the fact that we can't talk to our friends who aren't playing.

 

[Octorok]

No, you don't see where we're coming from, or at least only partially. Yes, being mixed in with the normal Douches you get on XBL is one of the things that we're complaining about, but the main thing (for me, at least) is the fact that we can't talk to our friends who aren't playing.

While technically correct I give him points for the quite polite attempt to see our point.

 

[Avatar Roku]

No, you don't see where we're coming from, or at least only partially. Yes, being mixed in with the normal Douches you get on XBL is one of the things that we're complaining about, but the main thing (for me, at least) is the fact that we can't talk to our friends who aren't playing.

While technically correct I give him points for the quite polite attempt to see our point.

True. I can deal with this sort of debate, unlike that debate with that other Asshole (not to imply this guy's an asshole, but it would come across that way no matter how I worded this). You know the one.

 

[AFdrft]

This whole fiasco saddens me. I was looking forward to MW2, a lot. So much so that I decided to spend £lots on the damn prestige edition - and I rarely get excited about games these days.

Repeating what many others have said, I really don't think IW should be allowed to make changes like this, we're paying for a separate service, one which really should have nothing to do with them. So not only are they charging over the industry norm for a game, they are taking away one of the big functionalities of a separate service we also have to pay for. That's just not right. Party chat is very important to me, as I have quite a lot of friends who play regularly on XBL, but don't like FPS's. I play games to have fun, and this change is taking a large chunk of the fun away for me. Something smells funny with all of this, a lot of unpopular changes are being made without any solid explanation. As an ex-PC gamer I'd be furious at the lack of dedicated servers if I was buying the PC version. I don't understand why the have decided to take a step backwards and try and change things, just on the back of the popularity on the series. Its all just so unnecessary.

I just hope to God that these kind of changes don't become the new norm. If my copy hadn't already been sent out to me, I'd have cancelled my pre-order.

Oh, I signed.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

If you dont like it, dont buy the game...simple enough.

This attitude is beginning to annoy me now.

It really isn't that simple.

People have been looking forward to this game for a long time, and they still want to experience what is sure to be the biggest and one of the best games of all time.

COD4 fans who are upset about this will still buy the game because it will still be a really good game. But it will be flawed to them, not as fun as it could have been.

It's like when Metallica released St Anger... we all still bought it even though it was a piece of shit that the band resentfully shat out because thier life coach told them to.

And even though we were all pissed off at Lars Ulrich and his anti-pirating crusade that victimised thier fans, we all still went and bought that piece of shit boil on the ass of music because it was still freakin Metallica .