PC gamers....why must we always get shafted?

[wulf3n]

can you say "Mass Effect MMO"? because it'll happen....

with the "success" of the old republic I doubt even EA will be game enough to try that again.

Though I don't really see much of PC gamers being shafted, no more than any other platform really.

I would be a PC gamer if the mouse and keyboard wasn't such a shitty control scheme

You do know you can hook up PS3/XBox360/WII controllers pretty easily?

and the community was decent.

Is it really any different?

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

We don't always get shafted. There are problems with the PC, everyone knows this. But there's still a tonne of legitimately good stuff going on on the PC.

 

[TwiZtah]

There's more money in making console games, simple as that. The industry has nothing against you.

even though PC outsold PS3 this quarter?

 

[tobi the good boy]

"Choice of system"? Let me ask you: why do you have to choose one system? I have a 360, a PS3, a Wii, and a gaming-capable PC, not to mention all the older systems I have, so just choosing one system and sticking with it seems silly to me. : \

I feel like reaching into the monitor and slapping you across the face... no offence.

But to answer your question. Because I'm dirt poor? Because I can barely afford to buy a new game as it is and when I find out that a game I'm really interested in is filled with shit to keep me from actually playing it and in some cases doesn't even come out on what I even have at my disposal I get pissed off.

Heck sometimes I get a game only to find out it's been so terribly retrofitted for PC controls that I might as well have not even bought it, but hay I can always just return to the store and get my money ba- Oh wait.

 

[Vault101]

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Eh, I still can't understand that. Whenever I encounter a control scheme I am not used too, I "adapt or die", as it were, and things usually go great. It might be because my first FPS was Halo, and as such I grew accustomed to console control schemes first, but both work perfectly well for me.

ehhh...I can't see it... the gamepad just feels like artificial diffuculy

like going for a run with a brick strapped to the side of your head

I would be a PC gamer if the mouse and keyboard wasn't such a shitty control scheme

did you know you can buy a gamepad for the PC?....or OR (here's a good one" if your already have a PS3 controller just download a thing and with a few teaks BINGO gamepad for the PC granted there may be a certian cumber of games that suport it...but still

anyway I would say [i/]at least[/i] the case of FPS it really isn't..but obviously for some its what your used too

I guess I adapted to K/M more than I did gamepad (hard to really tell though) but still the sense of precision and controll is just..somthing you can't explain

[quote/]and the community was decent.[/quote]
gross generalisation....I could just as easyly say that consoles are just lazy dumbass's with a COD complex (which I wont because I know that isnt true) in fact with PC it seems in terms of multiplayer good games actually have alot more staying powr because they buld up a loyal comunity (as in why Diablo 2 went for so long)
[quote/]PC doesn't deal with half the shit consoles do.[/quote]
liiiiiiiike?....

look as I said platforms have their good and bad but getting into "I have it worse than you" pissing match isn't a great Idea

[quote/]Dark souls being one of the few games you don't have and you all start [b/]bitching[/b] for a port. Then you [b/]*****[/b] about said port being 'only as good as the console version'.[/quote]

[b/]*****[/b]....I love that word don't you? doesn't it paint such a clear picture of your target? as being some whiney little jerk who needs to STFU?....rather effective in trivialising peoples problems people I guess

1. nothing wrong with asking for a port....

2. I dont know the situation with the dark souls port but theres a difference between "like the console" and "broken"

 

[BreakfastMan]

"Choice of system"? Let me ask you: why do you have to choose one system? I have a 360, a PS3, a Wii, and a gaming-capable PC, not to mention all the older systems I have, so just choosing one system and sticking with it seems silly to me. : \

I feel like reaching into the monitor and slapping you across the face... no offence.

But to answer your question. Because I'm dirt poor? Because I can barely afford to buy a new game as it is and when I find out that a game I'm really interested in is filled with shit to keep me from actually playing it and in some cases doesn't even come out on what I even have at my disposal I get pissed off.

Heck sometimes I get a game only to find out it's been so terribly retrofitted for PC controls that I might as well have not even bought it, but hay I can always just return to the store and get my money ba- Oh wait.

You think I wasn't? I have always been poor, my entire life (You can barely afford buying a new, $60 game? Try not being able to afford a new, $60 game, at all. That was me for a long, long time). I got those consoles by exercising thrift and frugality, as well as carefully controlling my spending and saving my money. I know that sounds condescending, but I am not trying to be. It is entirely true.

 

[Puzzlenaut]

Even as a pure PC gamer, every time I see a "Ohh woe is me being a PC gamer" I get a headache. It is no wonder everyone hates us.

A thousand times this.

PC gaming has it perks: the generally larger library and variety of games, the amount of free stuff, entire genres of games that just don't exist on consoles (mmos, etc) and mod communities, to name but a few, and Console gaming has its perks too: ease of use, reliability and being the preferred platform of publishers due to the standardised nature of the platform+lack of piracy.

Console gamers don't get mods or many other things, and for the most part (or at least no way near as vocally) they don't complain, whereas PC gamers seem to want to have their cake and eat it.

 

[BreakfastMan]

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Eh, I still can't understand that. Whenever I encounter a control scheme I am not used too, I "adapt or die", as it were, and things usually go great. It might be because my first FPS was Halo, and as such I grew accustomed to console control schemes first, but both work perfectly well for me.

ehhh...I can't see it... the gamepad just feels like artificial diffuculy

like going for a run with a brick strapped to the side of your head

Not really. Like I said, you get used to the new control scheme after a while.

It also doesn't hurt that most (if not all) shooters on consoles feature some form of aim-assist to help out. XD

 

[Puzzlenaut]

can you say "Mass Effect MMO"? because it'll happen....

with the "success" of the old republic I doubt even EA will be game enough to try that again.

Though I don't really see much of PC gamers being shafted, no more than any other platform really.

I would be a PC gamer if the mouse and keyboard wasn't such a shitty control scheme

You do know you can hook up PS3/XBox360/WII controllers pretty easily?

Lots of games support them very poorly though, with awkward control schemes that can't be changed on the gamepad (like some FPSes where it assigns "shoot" as one of the top buttons, rather than one of the triggers)

 

[maninahat]

OP reminds me of a gag from the To Boldly Flee:


Starving Writer: "Can I have a paycheck? Or some food? Please?"
Grinning Palpatine dressed in a Corperate suit: "Soooo, sooo sorry...Piracy..."

Basically the exact same story for PCs.

 

[Vault101]

Yeah with the rise of Steam we saw shelf space of PC games in stores shrinking and shrinking... A large game would take long to download,but if you have some DSL connection,just wait for it.

its not just time....its the tyranic bullshit of internet caps

[quote/]
My idea is punish those who punish you,if they punish you for no legitimate reason. Put your dignity first and your excitement seconds,and don't buy a game if its company shows that doesn't respect you.[/quote]
at best that makes no difference..at worst in sends the wrong message

[quote/]You are too general on this. Consoles only break once computer games. But there have been games that were designed for consoles from the get go and were never 'broke' by somebody.[/quote]
I didn't mean "geniunly" broken...I ment it "feels" like playing a broekn game...or it "breaks" the experience for me because its frustrating



[quote/]
That's why console shooters have things like aim assist and auto aim in their options menus. Use them.
Trying to aim with the stick without any help like aim assist is a difficult job and your aim will be inaccurate,but that's normal as the way sticks and the way lasers work is very different. So if you can't use a mouse,use assist systems.[/quote]
unless they arent already on by defualt I do use them.....its still the same stupid artificial difficulty..I eather snail my way in between targets or I end use abusing it (continually releasing and holding the "zoom in aim" button will automatically lock you on a atrget..so I found in Sleeping dogs and Red dead)

 

[tobi the good boy]

"Choice of system"? Let me ask you: why do you have to choose one system? I have a 360, a PS3, a Wii, and a gaming-capable PC, not to mention all the older systems I have, so just choosing one system and sticking with it seems silly to me. : \

I feel like reaching into the monitor and slapping you across the face... no offence.

But to answer your question. Because I'm dirt poor? Because I can barely afford to buy a new game as it is and when I find out that a game I'm really interested in is filled with shit to keep me from actually playing it and in some cases doesn't even come out on what I even have at my disposal I get pissed off.

Heck sometimes I get a game only to find out it's been so terribly retrofitted for PC controls that I might as well have not even bought it, but hay I can always just return to the store and get my money ba- Oh wait.

You think I wasn't? I have always been poor, my entire life (You can barely afford buying a new, $60 game? Try not being able to afford a new, $60 game, at all. That was me for a long, long time). I got those consoles by exercising thrift and frugality, as well as carefully controlling my spending and saving my money. I know that sounds condescending, but I am not trying to be. It is entirely true.

I used the term 'barely' as an exceptional overstatement I assure you. And I completely understand where you're coming from but it still aggravates me when I hear people say that, mostly because I hear it coming from people that haven't had to work a day in their life and have had every damn machine they ever own given to them as a gift.

The sheer reason I do not have a console comes down to not having money, not having space in my home to put one and not owning a TV large enough to even read the damn text on the screen. This all just combines together to make the idea of wasting what little recreational funds I have on one just not an option.

 

[wulf3n]

Console gamers don't get mods or many other things, and for the most part (or at least no way near as vocally) they don't complain, whereas PC gamers seem to want to have their cake and eat it.

Really? I must be hanging out in the wrong circles of the internet.

Gamers *****, Gamers whine, Gamers complain. It's what we do, if we're not playing games were complaining about something. It's not 1 or 2 sub-genres that complain or complain more than others, it's everyone and we all whine equally, It's just that we don't seem to notice when we're the ones bitching

Lots of games support them very poorly though, with awkward control schemes that can't be changed on the gamepad (like some FPSes where it assigns "shoot" as one of the top buttons, rather than one of the triggers)

I guess I just haven't ran into the problem yet. I don't use controllers on PC that often but when I've felt the need, it's always been ok, for me at least.

 

[Vault101]

Not really. Like I said, you get used to the new control scheme after a while.

It also doesn't hurt that most (if not all) shooters on consoles feature some form of aim-assist to help out. XD

but...but...

ITS NOT THE SAME

it just isnt....it wont ever be and no aim assist will ever change that

 

[BreakfastMan]

Not really. Like I said, you get used to the new control scheme after a while.

It also doesn't hurt that most (if not all) shooters on consoles feature some form of aim-assist to help out. XD

but...but...

ITS NOT THE SAME

it just isnt....it wont ever be and no aim assist will ever change that

Why does it have to be the same? Why can't it be a different experience than the one provided by the PC?

 

[dantoddd]

I personally don't have issues with DRMs they have never stopped me from enjoying a game. If there are solid DRMs that can keep pirates away for a long time we clearly sell a lot more PC games. I read somewhere that diablo 3 has sold something like 10mn copies that's amazing and most likely because it hasn't been pirated so far.

There are a few shitty ports out there but things have improved considerably these days. i feel like i get a far better deal as a pc gamer than my console brethren at the moment. Our games are cheaper, generally play much smoother, look much better and often come with extra goodies.and devs these days take care of PC gamers much better than they did a few years ago. this is probably because we are the fastest growing gaming segement out there. I think we're going to get pampered for the next year or so until the next generation of consoles show up