Signed.
I have no idea how much it will help, but it's what I could do today, so I'm proud to do it.
I have no idea how much it will help, but it's what I could do today, so I'm proud to do it.
/sigh... Signing an online petition is the same thing as doing nothing. Yes, it's a disgusting law, but a petition is utterly worthless. If you want to make a difference, talk to your Congressmen, or Parliament, or other government representatives and urge them to threaten a national embargo or other sanctions if the bill is passed. Don't go signing a worthless bunch of pixels and megabytes and then pat yourself on the back for a job well done.shewolf51 said:Signed.
I highly doubt Uganda will even listen, but as that famous quote goes "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing".
I understand you didn't bother to go through the thread but this has been already answered. While I'm from Europe and I find wrong the death penalty anyway(since yes it start with criminals but there's always someone who think some lesser crime should deserve it)but really that's not the point in this case. The bill doesn't send rapists and pedophiles to death but equiparets(sorry sp?)homosexuals to rapists and pedophiles which we both know it's not true.ravensheart18 said:Did the people that keep saying "the UN should not do something" not actually read up on what this is?
This is not a "all gays must die" law.
This is a death penality for what amounts to agrivated sexual assult in the country. It is biased, its wrong. But, many would say its no more wrong than the US death penalty (which is known to execute minorities at a higher rate). Not a chance in hell the permanent members of the Security Council (or even half the temporary members) would vote to invade over a death penalty law.
They wont. If you want to stop homosexuals from being persecuted in Uganda then you need to pressure someone who can actually stop it like say... your government. Push for economic sanctions against Uganda if this passes. Otherwise the Ugandan government will just laugh at the petition like the the ineffectual piece of paper that it is.ThisIsSnake said:Signed. Not sure if Uganda will listen to it
this isn't about domestic policy this is about human lives!and rights...ArBeater said:I disagree, but I don't see why people who are not Ugandan have the right to judge another country's domestic policy.
I wouldn't normally respond to this not only because I'm not the defensive type but I agree most of the times people not personally involved are doing this to feel "warm and good inside.Easy Street said:I'm gay, and I think this is terrible. (That's my disclaimer)Cenequus said:https://secure.avaaz.org/en/uganda_stop_homophobia_petition/?r=act
For what it counts,a weak voice is still better than no voice,please sign
But..I think petitions are generally useless. They are a feel-good mechanism for the people that fill them out. It gives normally passive people a moment of saying to themselves "Hey, I did something about that!", but in reality all it really did was..nothing. Unless you count that fleeting, cushy feeling something.
Homosexuals were one of the groups that the Nazis went after, along with Gypsies, Jews, and other such people. So it is a fairer analogy than you give it credit for.Flammable said:...I'm all for sticking it to a country for doing stupid shit, but an online petition? Ooh yeah, that'll scare 'em good. Maybe do something a little more pro-active than signing a petition and feeling like you're making a difference? And really? People comparing it to the holocaust? No one has died yet, let alone 9 million+ people.
Oh shit now I'm going to have to think about it >.>Greyfox105 said:Eh, there is a suitable quote in mind from the Horus Heresy books...
My mind is literally blown. You still make a fraction of a difference signing it however doing nothing is doing nothing.maninahat said:Sorry, but I think that signing an internet petition is even more useless than doing nothing at all.
So you're willing to sit by as a bill that will allow hundred of thousands of people will die is passed, as another human rights violation goes on somewhere in the world, to surrender your voice as a citizen not of the United States, but of the WORLD? You are a member of the global community. On a global scale, there is no Uganda or America, don't you see that? Please, give this some more consideration.ArBeater said:It still isn't any of our business.Biodeamon said:this isn't about domestic policy this is about human lives!and rights...ArBeater said:I disagree, but I don't see why people who are not Ugandan have the right to judge another country's domestic policy.
I HAVE EVERY FUCKING RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER COUNTRY WHAT TO DO IF IT MEANS THE MASS KILLING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.Kopikatsu said:Homosexuals were one of the groups that the Nazis went after, along with Gypsies, Jews, and other such people. So it is a fairer analogy than you give it credit for.Flammable said:...I'm all for sticking it to a country for doing stupid shit, but an online petition? Ooh yeah, that'll scare 'em good. Maybe do something a little more pro-active than signing a petition and feeling like you're making a difference? And really? People comparing it to the holocaust? No one has died yet, let alone 9 million+ people.
Edit: But I agree with some of the other posters. I have no problem with the death penalty in general, but I do have a problem with people being given the death penalty for no reason other than their sexual orientation.
That being said, this is Uganda. If you don't live in Uganda, then you don't really have a right to tell them how to run their country. That is, unless you want the entire world to be unified under a single force with similar laws, beliefs, and what have you imposed on every country. (Which sounds kind of like the Empire from Star Wars, actually.)
"Sanctions" the U.N calls them. Meaning, "we never do anything useful, please don't call us on it".Caliostro said:Don't be fooled, the UN moves around financial interests as much as the next army. If there's no money/advantage for them in it, they'll stick to stern disapproval and angry letters.Meestor Pickle said:Signed, would the UN let them do that?