Petition: Uganda enforcing death penalty to homosexuals

[Steppin Razor]

It's not the first time this bill was proposed and was already canceled because of people made their voice heard:
"We've helped stop this bill before, and we can do it again. After a massive global outcry last year, Ugandan President Museveni blocked the bill's progress. But political unrest is mounting in Uganda, and religious extremists in Parliament are hoping confusion and violence in the streets will distract the international community from a second push to pass this hate-filled law."

Being blocked isn't the same as being cancelled. The bill is the exact same as it was last year after they made the change to remove the death penalty. It's just been sitting there while they stew over it and try to summon up the balls to defy the international community. The only thing that's really stopping them from pushing it through is the threat of every single Western nation cutting off their aid.

 

[Racistman3d]

I've seen this all over tumblr, I find this as sick as anyone should be, but I'm afraid that an online petition will have little to no effect on a policy of a nation I'm assuming the vast majority of people who signed don't live in. I still signed, but I don't feel like this is exactly the most effective thing that can be done.

 

[Jefw]

Signed it.

Now you sign it, reader, or I will EAT YOU!

HOLYSHIT I'LL SIGN!

 

[robodukky]

Signed.
Kill homosexuals just for being homosexuals? That's insane! They're insane! That's taking away simple human rights. I mean, death penalty! What is this, the Dark Ages?

 

[70R4N]

WTF? Do we still live in the dark ages?

Signed.

 

[nmatters]

+1

Signed.

 

[Steppin Razor]

Actually, you're almost correct: it's imprisonment if you are caught in or reported partaking in homosexual activity, but the death penalty for 'repeated offences'. There was an excellent documentary on the BBC around one month ago by the DJ Scott Mills, who is homosexual himself. If you can find it on the internet or on BBC iplayer, I would strongly suggest taking a look.

I'll have to check that out when I get a chance as I wasn't aware that they'd gone and changed it again.

 

[Woodsey]

Not trying to make light of this issue, but uh couldn't you just not let people know your gay and get out of the country asap.

It's like killing someone for a political idea like communism. Can't you just hide it?

They shouldn't have to hide it, they may not be able to afford to leave, and it leads to situations where neighbour A is pissed off by neighbour B, and so neighbour A accuses neighbour B of being gay.

Being accused of something can almost be as bad as being found guilty of it, and something tells me they don't have the world's fairest legal system anyway.

I've seen this all over tumblr, I find this as sick as anyone should be, but I'm afraid that an online petition will have little to no effect on a policy of a nation I'm assuming the vast majority of people who signed don't live in. I still signed, but I don't feel like this is exactly the most effective thing that can be done.

Intense political and media attention can sometimes work wonders.

 

[NightlyNews]

They shouldn't have to hide it, they may not be able to afford to leave, and it leads to situations where neighbour A is pissed off by neighbour B, and so neighbour A accuses neighbour B of being gay.

Being accused of something can almost be as bad as being found guilty of it, and something tells me they don't have the world's fairest legal system anyway.

Not trying to make light of this issue, but uh couldn't you just not let people know your gay and get out of the country asap.

It's like killing someone for a political idea like communism. Can't you just hide it?

They shouldn't have to hide it, they may not be able to afford to leave, and it leads to situations where neighbour A is pissed off by neighbor B, and so neighbour A accuses neighbour B of being gay.

Being accused of something can almost be as bad as being found guilty of it, and something tells me they don't have the world's fairest legal system anyway.

That's all good and well, but we live in the real world and Ugandans per capita GDP costs less than any of our cars.

There are bigger problems than having to keep who you bone secret. We have the privilege of caring about that in America, but in a country where people are struggling to survive. Who gives a fuck.

 

[MildCaseOfDeath]

Signed. We won't progress as a species unless we learn to accept each others beliefs, assuming they do not hurt others. The fact that an elected government can pass legislation like this shows we have a long way to go.

 

[saruman31]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w

In case you didn`t know.

Signed.

 

[bojac6]

To be perfectly fair, this part of the bill is for "aggravated homosexuality", in cases of rape of a minor by a person of the same sex, or where one partner carries the virus that can cause AIDs.
That is to say, they aren't killing gays, they are killing gay rapists and those with HIV, which is noticeably less genocidal.


The petitioning needs to be more about Uganda's long standing institutional discrimination against homosexuality, or about how this bill will imprison those who rent property to homosexuals. Frankly, by focusing on the part that executes rapists, you are focusing on the least egregious part of the bill. Uganda already imprisons those who are "convicted of sodomy", which is far worse than enforcing the death penalty for rapists and those who knowingly transmit HIV.

Perhaps that's the letter, but how will it work in practice? Why does it sigle out homosexuals and not simply target all rapists and people who knowingly spread HIV? A double standard of punishment is immediately suspect. I would guess all homosexual activity is going to be considered "aggravated"

 

[CloudKiller]

They shouldn't have to hide it, they may not be able to afford to leave, and it leads to situations where neighbour A is pissed off by neighbour B, and so neighbour A accuses neighbour B of being gay.

Being accused of something can almost be as bad as being found guilty of it, and something tells me they don't have the world's fairest legal system anyway.

Not trying to make light of this issue, but uh couldn't you just not let people know your gay and get out of the country asap.

It's like killing someone for a political idea like communism. Can't you just hide it?

They shouldn't have to hide it, they may not be able to afford to leave, and it leads to situations where neighbour A is pissed off by neighbor B, and so neighbour A accuses neighbour B of being gay.

Being accused of something can almost be as bad as being found guilty of it, and something tells me they don't have the world's fairest legal system anyway.

That's all good and well, but we live in the real world and Ugandans per capita GDP costs less than any of our cars.

There are bigger problems than having to keep who you bone secret. We have the privilege of caring about that in America, but in a country where people are struggling to survive. Who gives a fuck.

You're right people are struggling to survive in Uganda and surely that struggle would be a lot easier if you didn't have to worry about your goverment locking you up in prison for being a homosexual. And as for "Who gives a fuck", clearly the Ugandan goverment does or it wouldn't be trying to pass this travesty of a legislation and the only way to stop it is by people giving an even bigger fuck about the human rights of Ugandan homosexuals.

 

[Lucifus]

To be perfectly fair, this part of the bill is for "aggravated homosexuality", in cases of rape of a minor by a person of the same sex, or where one partner carries the virus that can cause AIDs.
That is to say, they aren't killing gays, they are killing gay rapists and those with HIV, which is noticeably less genocidal.

Being less genocidal is still being genocidal. Its inexcusable.

 

[NightlyNews]

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I still think the only way your really going to solve these forms of rascism/sexism etc. is money. If people don't have enough time to sit around and question their homophobic beliefs they will never change. And I assure you a government who overlooks people mostly without the internet couldn't give less than two fucks about an online petition.