Playstation 3: A Console Review
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Time investment? I beat it in a week. That's including watching all the cutscenes. I don't even understand the complaints towards the cutscenes. It's not like they're all exclusively Snake and Otacon debating about some inane crap on the codec. You get to see some pretty awesome fights in the cutscenes too (mostly with characters that aren't Snake, cut the 'I should be able to play that' crap).C Lion said:
If you really can't be assed, though, there's a simple solution. Start, down, X (use to skip any cutscenes) There. I just trimmed the 20 hour game into an 8 hour game. 5 hours if you're fast.
Right, well, let's do a little research...
Costs around £210 for a 360 Elite on Amazon. Plus £34.99 for a year of Xbox Live Gold. Hell, let's get the full kit slammed down; PS3 has a ten year lifespan, so does the 360 in theory. That's £314.91, assuming the console has a year of Gold included (which it doesn't, but we'll be kind on the 360).
£524.91 so far.
Just for the record, I can get a 500GB PS3 for £400.09 using Amazon, including a brand new game. Okay, so I need to swap the HDD from the default to the separately-purchased (but included in the above cost) 500GB HDD, but it won't void my warranty. If you try it with the 360, you will void your warranty, if you can get it to work at all.
So, looking at the real costs, even going completely overboard with the PS3, it's cheaper in real terms. I've not even touched any extra features, such as buying a wireless network adaptor (£52.96 for the 360, free for the PS3), or a High Definition Disk Reader (as low as £14.99, but it's the obsolete HD-DVD. PS3 has Blu Ray for free).
Of course, the games are more expensive for the PS3, so in theory it will swing back toward the 360... but games are very hard to quantify by their nature - I've seen MGS4 sold as a loss-leader for £25 just a week or two after release, so that sort of thing can mess up game costing.
Overall, looking at the full life of the console, the 360 doesn't look cheaper at all; it's only cheaper if you focus entirely on the short-term.
Costs around £210 for a 360 Elite on Amazon. Plus £34.99 for a year of Xbox Live Gold. Hell, let's get the full kit slammed down; PS3 has a ten year lifespan, so does the 360 in theory. That's £314.91, assuming the console has a year of Gold included (which it doesn't, but we'll be kind on the 360).
£524.91 so far.
Just for the record, I can get a 500GB PS3 for £400.09 using Amazon, including a brand new game. Okay, so I need to swap the HDD from the default to the separately-purchased (but included in the above cost) 500GB HDD, but it won't void my warranty. If you try it with the 360, you will void your warranty, if you can get it to work at all.
So, looking at the real costs, even going completely overboard with the PS3, it's cheaper in real terms. I've not even touched any extra features, such as buying a wireless network adaptor (£52.96 for the 360, free for the PS3), or a High Definition Disk Reader (as low as £14.99, but it's the obsolete HD-DVD. PS3 has Blu Ray for free).
Of course, the games are more expensive for the PS3, so in theory it will swing back toward the 360... but games are very hard to quantify by their nature - I've seen MGS4 sold as a loss-leader for £25 just a week or two after release, so that sort of thing can mess up game costing.
Overall, looking at the full life of the console, the 360 doesn't look cheaper at all; it's only cheaper if you focus entirely on the short-term.
Translation - "Oh no! I'm a sad little Halotard who is unable to coherently counter the hard evidence in front of me! I must make a flippant and pathetic attack in order to distract people from the fact that what has been posted is true!"beddo said:
Welcome to the real world, dumbass.
I assume I am going to buy an Elite because, when making comparisons, you should use like for like. In this case, it is easiest just to take the top-spec machine from both, and go with that.
XBox Like has a 256MB Memory unit. 256? Warhawk takes up almost double that with no expansions! It's a pathetically small memory! If you're going to compare Arcade to even a default PS3, you have to turn around and admit the failing.
Namely; "Yes, it's a few hundred quid cheaper, but the PS3 has in the region of 31 thousand percent more internal memory space."
This is why we use the Elite... or at the very least, make the inclusion of an external 360 HDD mandatory to the costing.
On that note, the 20GB HDD for the 360 costs £41, more or less. I paid £43 for a 160GB drive for my PS3. Now which is better value?
XBox Like has a 256MB Memory unit. 256? Warhawk takes up almost double that with no expansions! It's a pathetically small memory! If you're going to compare Arcade to even a default PS3, you have to turn around and admit the failing.
Namely; "Yes, it's a few hundred quid cheaper, but the PS3 has in the region of 31 thousand percent more internal memory space."
This is why we use the Elite... or at the very least, make the inclusion of an external 360 HDD mandatory to the costing.
On that note, the 20GB HDD for the 360 costs £41, more or less. I paid £43 for a 160GB drive for my PS3. Now which is better value?
Well there's a few things wrong with your post.fish food carl said:
1. There's no point in live gold without HDD. No demos, no game updates, no premium content.
2. You still mention getting Live Gold which will add more cost in the long term than PS3.
3. At least with the PS3 you get to pick your own games rather than get them chosen for you in a bundle.
Good review, pretty much sums up what I think most gamers feel about the PS3. Technically better, but costs a lot and has too few games.
Given the cash, I'd get a PS3 in a flash, after all it's still cheaper than most Blu-ray players on their own. However, I'm a student, and hus don't have any money, so a 360 is more appealing.
Given the cash, I'd get a PS3 in a flash, after all it's still cheaper than most Blu-ray players on their own. However, I'm a student, and hus don't have any money, so a 360 is more appealing.
That's rich, your review was nothing but fanboy jargon. You showed a misunderstanding of the basic technology in a PS3. When commented on you proclaimed that is was "fanboy jargen". All that was said by Janus was that Sony's strategy of late has been largely unsuccessful and that the PS3 and its benefits require a lot of money.MrBrightside919 said:
Furthermore, the fact Janus said "Don't get me wrong, I like the PS3." And didn't promote another system reduces the likelyhood of his comments being fanboy based.