Political Rant #1 Legalizing marijuana

[Zeke109]

There are Six potheads in my school (only in my lunch hour. There are probably many,many,many more). They are good, nice people (if not a little mellow). The only reason pot is illegal is because of a slander campaign a timber tycoon started. he was losing a few dollars to hemp, and the cannabis plant was confused with hemp, and it was soon illegalized.

 

[Zeke109]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

no one ever died because of marijuana

Really?

I thought inhaling smoke was completely sanitary -.-

Guy smoked pot for 40 years. Doctor said that there was no permanant damage. In fact, there was no damage at all.

It's all on Super High Me.

 

[Zeke109]

* Impaired perception
* Hallucinations
* Psychological dependency

The first two bullets are the entire POINT of pot, and the third just isin't true. That's like saying chocolate is addictive. In a way--it is. It releases Endorphins in your brain, stimulating the peasure center. Now, to feel better, your endorphin levels need to be higher, increasing your dependance on chocolate.

TAKE THAT AND SMOKE IT!

 

[USSR]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

no one ever died because of marijuana

Really?

I thought inhaling smoke was completely sanitary -.-

Guy smoked pot for 40 years. Doctor said that there was no permanant damage. In fact, there was no damage at all.

It's all on Super High Me.

Sir, if you are stating that inhaling smoke into your lungs is, in any rate, sanitary or healthy because of a few lucky people in this world who don't take harm from it, please just stop posting.

People can smoke cigarettes for all their life, and not take any damage, because of luck.

 

[Zeke109]

Brownies, anyone?

 

[Panzer_God]

You hate people who drink beer? Why? In moderation they harm no one of themselves, yet passive smoke from joints hurts people.
Do you actually have a valid argument anymore or just defending ignorance?

I have to ask how passive smoke from joints hurts people? Second hand inhalation? Unless you live in a bong or a freaking smoked out green room it isn't going to damage you whatsoever. I love beer just as much as the next guy but I must reiterate the fact that people don't smoke weed and go driving and kill innocent families,children, people ,etc ona daily basis. You can't od on it either. Alcohol is another story though.

Joints are always smoked with tobacco. Even in bongs a bit of tobacco is used some of the time. So all the warnings of second hand cigarette smoke applies to tobacco. Why do you think so many weed users end up on cigs?
People don't smoke weed and kill innocent people AS MUCH AS people who drink because ITS AN ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE. Kind of situation where you can't say "because it's not in the news it doesn't happen." Plus, saying they don't kill while driving is bullshit:
http://www.safermotoring.co.uk/DrivingAndDrugs.html
Have a look at http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm
Marijuana Dangers:
* Impaired perception
* Diminished short-term memory
* Loss of concentration and coordination
* Impaired judgement
* Increased risk of accidents
* Loss of motivation
* Diminished inhibitions
* Increased heart rate
* Anxiety, panic attacks, and paranoia
* Hallucinations
* Damage to the respiratory, reproductive, and immune systems
* Increased risk of cancer
* Psychological dependency
Seriously, smoking should be illegal as there are no benefits to it, as well as weed (other than a few prescriptive reasons). Alcohol in moderation can be of benefit to you, or of no danger whatsoever. The same cannot be said about weed.

Pot has been legalized by the Dutch for a long time now. Would a Dutch poster please tell these people that your country is not in shambles to do rampaging stoners

 

[Panzer_God]

Pot has been legalized by the Dutch for a long time now. Would a Dutch poster please tell these people that your country is not in shambles to do rampaging stoners

people like you would go out and get stoned off your face and probably end up injured or worse.
And you want to legalise it for the mature reason of getting high.

Learn who you're talking about before you jump to incredibly foolish insults, I have never smoked and have no plans too.

 

[bue519]

No, he was on pot, not coke, don't try to correct me on something like that - I'm not retarded. Pot causes paranoia, which he suffered from, and when he wasn't on pot he was very edgy & violent.
Pot is worse than cigarettes due to the physiological effects it can cause such as loss of memory, paranoia and schizophrenia. With smoking being such a taboo, how can anyone justify making something worse than it legal? Sheer idiocy.
And do a basic google search before claiming BS: http://www.keepthedoctoraway.co.uk/Articles/Drinking:TheHealthBenefits_391.html That was the first hit.

So he was violent when he was on pot and when he wasn't too? He just sounds like a violent person. And you sound like your either lying or too dumb to remember what you wrote. So which is it, a lies or stupidity.

1)Reported. Nice one on being offensive.
2)He was violent AS A RESULT OF POT. Sorry if you are oblivious to the fact that pot causes paranoia. If you don't know what paranoia is look it up, not my fault if you are linguistically challenged.
3)He was worse when he was off the pot, as the pot caused him to be edgy. Either way the violence was a result of weed.
So there you go, neither lying nor stupid & I've still shown how pot shouldn't be legalised, whereas you think it should be through insults. I think that shows enough about the mindset that want it legalised.

No but it just sounds like you friend has mental problems regardless of the drugs that he uses. He should probably be section 8ed if he is this violent on and off drugs. You just want to make pot your scape goat.
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Besides I think your just lying anyways. Because you can't seem to keep your story straight. Also you havn't given any evidence of why pot shouldn't be legalized only how your friend should be instituionalized. Why don't you go and make another reefer madness remake.

 

[hippo24]

I think it should stay illegal

but we should heavily control boarders, make punishment for dealers more, and punishment for recipients less.

Marijuana isnt the evil, in fact I approve of it more then tobacco.

If we cant control our boarders or concentrate on the dealers, then trying to control it is futile, and we should legalize it.

Frankly, here In the US our government doesn't care enough to actually control it, or actually legalize it. So were stuck in a situation where the government cannot control the sales so anyone can get it, and its in such abundance that a 14 year old knows where to find it. In terms of drugs...US policy is pretty screwed up.

 

[JakubK666]

Actually, I have a better question. What exactly makes alcohol, leading cause of car accidents; liver failures and domestic violence, more socially acceptable than marijuana a drug that's pretty much opposite of the former as far as effects go and would probably be much safer for personal use if applied with similiar government regulations booze gets?

Tell me, could the income from alcohol taxes possibly be the only reason the the government hasn't bannned this shit yet and re-rated it as an A-class drug?

 

[bue519]

No, he was on pot, not coke, don't try to correct me on something like that - I'm not retarded. Pot causes paranoia, which he suffered from, and when he wasn't on pot he was very edgy & violent.
Pot is worse than cigarettes due to the physiological effects it can cause such as loss of memory, paranoia and schizophrenia. With smoking being such a taboo, how can anyone justify making something worse than it legal? Sheer idiocy.
And do a basic google search before claiming BS: http://www.keepthedoctoraway.co.uk/Articles/Drinking:TheHealthBenefits_391.html That was the first hit.

So he was violent when he was on pot and when he wasn't too? He just sounds like a violent person. And you sound like your either lying or too dumb to remember what you wrote. So which is it, a lies or stupidity.

1)Reported. Nice one on being offensive.
2)He was violent AS A RESULT OF POT. Sorry if you are oblivious to the fact that pot causes paranoia. If you don't know what paranoia is look it up, not my fault if you are linguistically challenged.
3)He was worse when he was off the pot, as the pot caused him to be edgy. Either way the violence was a result of weed.
So there you go, neither lying nor stupid & I've still shown how pot shouldn't be legalised, whereas you think it should be through insults. I think that shows enough about the mindset that want it legalised.

No but it just sounds like you friend has mental problems regardless of the drugs that he uses. He should probably be section 8ed if he is this violent on and off drugs. You just want to make pot your scape goat.
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Besides I think your just lying anyways. Because you can't seem to keep your story straight.

Which part of:

[HEADING=2] MARIJUANA CAUSES PARANOIA[/HEADING]​

do you not understand?? He was addicted, and all addicts are edgy when not using, and he was always paranoid, thinking everyone was out to get him. My story is straight, stop being so naive and trying to make out that pot is harmless.

Pot may make you paranoid, but it doesn't usually cause violence. So you should really see your friend commited to an instituition cause he sounds like hes suffering from bipolar disorder. Or you could keep lying to yourself till his condition deteriorates.
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Also pot isn't physically addictive, so maybe you should just stop your "roommate" if he exists.

 

[Nuke_em_05]

1. It's not that innocent. Not that alcohol and tobacco are great alternatives either.

2. Cost of having people in jail is a valid point, if you fail to consider that legalizing it doesn't mean there won't be illegal aspects that will come with the legalization. i.e. "Legal Limits" "High in public" un-sanctioned production. Alcohol is legal, tobacco is legal; importing, producing, selling, or consuming them is still subject to legal regulation.

3. A point not made relating to making it legal like tobacco and alcohol is that it could be taxed for revenue. Problem, tax revenue would be used for regulation.

4. Benefit, regluated production means people don't get "bad stuff".

5. Less money leaving the country to "black market" suppliers in other countries.

6. Like alcohol and tobacco, "underground" production would still occur unless "legal" value was less than "illegal" value, which all depends on how legalization would work out.

 

[bue519]

Actually, I have a better question. What exactly makes alcohol, leading cause of car accidents; liver failures and domestic violence, more socially acceptable than marijuana a drug that's pretty much opposite of the former as far as effects go and would probably be much safer for personal use if applied with similiar government regulations booze gets?

Tell me, could the income from alcohol taxes possibly be the only reason the the government hasn't bannned this shit yet and re-rated it as an A-class drug?

SHHHHH your making too much sense.

 

[bue519]

Which part of:

[HEADING=2] MARIJUANA CAUSES PARANOIA[/HEADING]​

do you not understand?? He was addicted, and all addicts are edgy when not using, and he was always paranoid, thinking everyone was out to get him. My story is straight, stop being so naive and trying to make out that pot is harmless.

Pot may make you paranoid, but it doesn't usually cause violence. So you should really see your friend commited to an instituition cause he sounds like hes suffering from bipolar disorder. Or you could keep lying to yourself till his condition deteriorates.
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Also pot isn't physically addictive, so maybe you should just stop your "roommate" if he exists.

Okay, you're clearly a troll.
Apart from altering your past posts, you can't get through your head (must be too much pot) that weed is bad. Paranoia leads to violence. Is that concept so hard to grasp, or can't think & roll a joint at the same time?
If someone is paranoid, they have an increased tendency to be violent BECAUSE THEY ARE PARANOID.
It's mentally addictive, so unless someone is going to pay for rehab, I can't be bothered talking to the aggressive scum-bag.
Right, you say I have not given any reason for why pot should be illegal. Here it is as simple as humanly possible (as I have previously stated):
FACT:It has no health benefits
FACT:It causes many health problems
Can you see now why it shouldn't be legalised??? It really is that simple. Stop trying to hide away from that simple truth because I have a feeling it may have an impact on your lifestyle.

Wow, a troll seriously dude. I'm just trying to have a discussion here, and your getting all bent out shape. I just believe that there is an underlying root problem in your roommate that causes him to lash out violently and he should probably be examined by a licensed physician. Just please stop using other things (and people) as scape goats.

 

[bue519]

Actually, I have a better question. What exactly makes alcohol, leading cause of car accidents; liver failures and domestic violence, more socially acceptable than marijuana a drug that's pretty much opposite of the former as far as effects go and would probably be much safer for personal use if applied with similiar government regulations booze gets?

Tell me, could the income from alcohol taxes possibly be the only reason the the government hasn't bannned this shit yet and re-rated it as an A-class drug?

Simply put, do you really think booze will be around in 200 years? Smoking is being edged out of society, even with the high taxes the government gets from it. Given enough time & a change in social attitude (The latter being the difficult part) booze will be edged out of society. The problem is it's been around for so long.

Yeah cause prohibition was great.