Political Rant #1 Legalizing marijuana

[Panzer_God]

Word of advise, look through posting guidelines (this goes for all you kiddies out there) before posting.

I looked through the guidelines and tell me, where in those words did you read that sharing our opinion is against the rules. I want to share my opinion and if people have a problem with that I want to be able to face them. If you have a problem with that then don't bother posting.

 

[Panzer_God]

Well don't you think alcoholics might go through the same thing hmmm? But, if some of its effects help cancer patients have an appetite cause frankly chemo sucks. Shouldn't they have that option. Your friend being screwed up mentally is no reason to deny them of that right.

alcohol is medically beneficial to everyone.

Wow, all I have to say is wow. I thought you had valid arguments up till now

Congratulations on trolling/showing an utter lack of knowledge on what you are on about:
http://www.keepthedoctoraway.co.uk/Articles/Drinking:TheHealthBenefits_391.html
Still trying to say that making an addictive substance that causes paranoia is beneficial to society?

I never said it was beneficial to society. It would just be less of a harm if it were legal

 

[bue519]

Well don't you think alcoholics might go through the same thing hmmm? But, if some of its effects help cancer patients have an appetite cause frankly chemo sucks. Shouldn't they have that option. Your friend being screwed up mentally is no reason to deny them of that right.

Weed is only beneficial in very few cases, whereas alcohol is medically beneficial to everyone. Weed can remain illegal but be prescribed in the few cases it can help a person, which seems right. Either way, weed shouldn't be legalised because people are reckless & 99% of the time it just causes problems.
Clearly you think it should be available to everyone. Why is that, remembering that 90% of the time weed is used with tobacco and so has all the problems of smoking attached to it.

Well considering how many wives are beaten and fatalities that are due to alcohol. I can't really agree that it's medically beneficial. Also alcoholism is still also still running rampant, and it really can destroy families.

And that's why in previous posts I have shown that I personally am for making every recreational drug illegal as they usually cause more harm then good. Weed could easily break up families and cause car accidents. So to be against booze for that reason, and yet advocate weed is insane.

Yes, I suppose that we could just have a church state. Where all earthly pleasures are restricted. But, that frankly just sounds kind of boring, atleast its a safe (if boring) existance.

 

[Panzer_God]

Well don't you think alcoholics might go through the same thing hmmm? But, if some of its effects help cancer patients have an appetite cause frankly chemo sucks. Shouldn't they have that option. Your friend being screwed up mentally is no reason to deny them of that right.

Weed is only beneficial in very few cases, whereas alcohol is medically beneficial to everyone. Weed can remain illegal but be prescribed in the few cases it can help a person, which seems right. Either way, weed shouldn't be legalised because people are reckless & 99% of the time it just causes problems.
Clearly you think it should be available to everyone. Why is that, remembering that 90% of the time weed is used with tobacco and so has all the problems of smoking attached to it.

Well considering how many wives are beaten and fatalities that are due to alcohol. I can't really agree that it's medically beneficial. Also alcoholism is still also still running rampant, and it really can destroy families.

And that's why in previous posts I have shown that I personally am for making every recreational drug illegal as they usually cause more harm then good. Weed could easily break up families and cause car accidents. So to be against booze for that reason, and yet advocate weed is insane.

I'm actually kind of amused because we come so close to agreeing but just have different veiws on how it should happen. You want ot make all the rec drugs illegal so people will stop using them. You have more faith in individuals then i do. I say we should make them legal because you can put regulations on them. If they're illegal, people use them anyway and the government can't put quality controls on it. If we legalize it and put the same restricions as on other things then there will be people who use it illegally but overall it will be less dangerous in the long run. Society will eventually get rid of drugs, but if society can't see it it will never happen.

 

[Panzer_God]

And that's why in previous posts I have shown that I personally am for making every recreational drug illegal.

Yes, I suppose that we could just have a church state. Where all earthly pleasures are restricted. But, that frankly just sounds kind of boring, atleast its a safe (if boring) existance.

I would have to agrue with the safe part lol.

 

[bue519]

And that's why in previous posts I have shown that I personally am for making every recreational drug illegal.

Yes, I suppose that we could just have a church state. Where all earthly pleasures are restricted. But, that frankly just sounds kind of boring, atleast its a safe (if boring) existance.

I would have to agrue with the safe part lol.

Yeah, lol it seems pretty boring though, hopefully they don't make video games illegal too. I don't want to have to find a pac-man dealer.

 

[Panzer_God]

Oh god that would suck beyond belief. Almost as bad as the movie ban.

 

[megapenguinx]

Word of advise, look through posting guidelines (this goes for all you kiddies out there) before posting.

I looked through the guidelines and tell me, where in those words did you read that sharing our opinion is against the rules. I want to share my opinion and if people have a problem with that I want to be able to face them. If you have a problem with that then don't bother posting.

Try telling that to the mods. But I'll say what I say on all the other marijuana topics: I specifically don't care but I'd rather just keep it as it is.

 

[Yamiki]

So instead of full legalisation, what would everyone think of something that is already in use in various places..
The decrimilisation of SMALL amounts of Marijuana for personal use?

Personally I know how pot does affect people with overuse, but the point has been brought up and ignored many times is ...

That Marijuana can not be fully legalised because the general populace can not be trusted to use it wisely.


As fot the issue of the mixed tabacco/marijuana effect.
Do not forget that there are several ways to decrease the effects of burning plant material, look at vapourisation of Marijuana, it is the safest way to inhale the smoke, and it leads to fewer or none of the known affects of:
a) Second hand smoke
b) The inhalation effects that you get from a joint or to a lesser extent, a bong.

Using a vapouriser is how most medical marijuana should be taken, as it has the health benefits of Marijuana with a significant reduction of the harmful elements of burning pot.

 

[Voicuboyy]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

no one ever died because of marijuana

Really?

I thought inhaling smoke was completely sanitary -.-

american ))

 

[bue519]

And that's why in previous posts I have shown that I personally am for making every recreational drug illegal as they usually cause more harm then good. Weed could easily break up families and cause car accidents. So to be against booze for that reason, and yet advocate weed is insane.

Yes, I suppose that we could just have a church state. Where all earthly pleasures are restricted. But, that frankly just sounds kind of boring, atleast its a safe (if boring) existence.

Hang on. You are against alcohol because it causes problems, and you want weed to be legal even though you know it can cause the same problems of alcohol. And you don't want all drugs to be illegal as that would be boring.
So when the **** did broken families, DUI and beating families constitute fun? It may be boring without drugs, but if you're the kind of mindset that needs to use them to have a fun time, I don't think society should try to please you.

I wasn't disagreeing with you dude. All that I was implying was that almost everything would be illegal. Like video games and books. Because video games have been blamed on numerous horrid acts. Everything from Columbine to that kid shooting his parents in the head over halo 3. So its really only a matter of time till all thats illegal too. So please quit being so argumentative.
EDIT: Also can you please stop being such a troll.
EDIT2: Should we just end up making sex illegal too? Because after all won't all this passion just lead to more violence. Isn't that why your most likely to be killed by the ones you love?

 

[bue519]

And that's why in previous posts I have shown that I personally am for making every recreational drug illegal as they usually cause more harm then good. Weed could easily break up families and cause car accidents. So to be against booze for that reason, and yet advocate weed is insane.

Yes, I suppose that we could just have a church state. Where all earthly pleasures are restricted. But, that frankly just sounds kind of boring, atleast its a safe (if boring) existence.

Hang on. You are against alcohol because it causes problems, and you want weed to be legal even though you know it can cause the same problems of alcohol. And you don't want all drugs to be illegal as that would be boring.
So when the **** did broken families, DUI and beating families constitute fun? It may be boring without drugs, but if you're the kind of mindset that needs to use them to have a fun time, I don't think society should try to please you.

I wasn't disagreeing with you dude. All that I was implying was that almost everything would be illegal. Like video games and books. Because video games have been blamed on numerous horrid acts. Everything from Columbine to that kid shooting his parents in the head over halo 3. So its really only a matter of time till all thats illegal too. So please quit being so argumentative.
EDIT: Also can you please stop being such a troll.
EDIT2: Should we just end up making sex illegal too? Because after all won't all this passion just lead to more violence. Isn't that why your most likely to be killed by the ones you love?

I'm not being argumentative. I can't see how you can really believe that if alcohol was banned as well as tobacco, the logical step for society would then be to ban films & games...
One are a set of substances which harm the body, the other are just entertainment...
I think you are being very naive really thinking that you could put sex & entertainment in the same category as drugs. Again, one is medically harmful, the other isn't. I don't understand what you are trying to say. We should make drugs illegal for fun? That seems to be the brunt of your view at this moment.

I don't recall making drugs ever saying to make drugs illegal for fun. All that I am trying to point out is that sex and games can be viewed as not physically harmful but mentally. They may cause people to take rash actions and hurt others. Like if a kid plays too much grand theft auto and then tries to drive a car. Or you catch your g/f cheating on you. These can take a toll on the human psyche and doesn't it only make sense to restrict this for the sake of our minds and to create a safer world?

 

[bue519]

I wasn't disagreeing with you dude. All that I was implying was that almost everything would be illegal. Like video games and books. Because video games have been blamed on numerous horrid acts. Everything from Columbine to that kid shooting his parents in the head over halo 3. So its really only a matter of time till all thats illegal too. So please quit being so argumentative.
EDIT: Also can you please stop being such a troll.
EDIT2: Should we just end up making sex illegal too? Because after all won't all this passion just lead to more violence. Isn't that why your most likely to be killed by the ones you love?

I'm not being argumentative. I can't see how you can really believe that if alcohol was banned as well as tobacco, the logical step for society would then be to ban films & games...
One are a set of substances which harm the body, the other are just entertainment...
I think you are being very naive really thinking that you could put sex & entertainment in the same category as drugs. Again, one is medically harmful, the other isn't. I don't understand what you are trying to say. We should make drugs illegal for fun? That seems to be the brunt of your view at this moment.

I don't recall making drugs ever saying to make drugs illegal for fun. All that I am trying to point out is that sex and games can be viewed as not physically harmful but mentally. They may cause people to take rash actions and hurt others. Like if a kid plays too much grand theft auto and then tries to drive a car. Or you catch your g/f cheating on you. These can take a toll on the human psyche and doesn't it only make sense to restrict this for the sake of our minds and to create a safer world?

There is a difference between being human and f****ing yourself up on drugs, a distinction you don't seem to grasp. If I take MDMA it won't kill me, but I'm much more likely to do something while under the influence of it, just the same as with any other drug, no matter who you are. However, if you are a rational person you are likely not to go on a GTA rampage after playing San Andreas, or slice 'n' dice your gf if you find her cheating.
Seriously, drugs & emotion are different. A rational person can control the latter, but the point of the former is to change how you perceive the world around you. That is unquestionably dangerous.

Wow, your right changing your view of the world is very dangerous. But isn't that the point of video games, art and movies? To give you a new view of the world. Whatever, I guess the world won't be okay unless its run by your guidelines, no matter how full of b/s they are.