Political Rant #1 Legalizing marijuana

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bue519

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Mazty said:
bue519 said:
Mazty said:
bue519 said:
Mazty said:
Which part of:
[HEADING=2] MARIJUANA CAUSES PARANOIA[/HEADING]
do you not understand?? He was addicted, and all addicts are edgy when not using, and he was always paranoid, thinking everyone was out to get him. My story is straight, stop being so naive and trying to make out that pot is harmless.
Pot may make you paranoid, but it doesn't usually cause violence. So you should really see your friend commited to an instituition cause he sounds like hes suffering from bipolar disorder. Or you could keep lying to yourself till his condition deteriorates.
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Also pot isn't physically addictive, so maybe you should just stop your "roommate" if he exists.
Okay, you're clearly a troll.
Apart from altering your past posts, you can't get through your head (must be too much pot) that weed is bad. Paranoia leads to violence. Is that concept so hard to grasp, or can't think & roll a joint at the same time?
If someone is paranoid, they have an increased tendency to be violent BECAUSE THEY ARE PARANOID.
It's mentally addictive, so unless someone is going to pay for rehab, I can't be bothered talking to the aggressive scum-bag.
Right, you say I have not given any reason for why pot should be illegal. Here it is as simple as humanly possible (as I have previously stated):
FACT:It has no health benefits
FACT:It causes many health problems
Can you see now why it shouldn't be legalised??? It really is that simple. Stop trying to hide away from that simple truth because I have a feeling it may have an impact on your lifestyle.
Wow, a troll seriously dude. I'm just trying to have a discussion here, and your getting all bent out shape. I just believe that there is an underlying root problem in your roommate that causes him to lash out violently and he should probably be examined by a licensed physician. Just please stop using other things (and people) as scape goats.
How is it a scape goat? Why are you ****** refusing to admit that weed can cause violence? It causes paranoia, therefore it can cause violence. Yes, the guy has issues. But if you think the weed helps then you are living in some warped reality. He is stoned all the time since coming to university, and he is getting more paranoid as time goes on. Don't try to even correct me on something you clearly know jack sh*t about.
First I need to calm down again. Second, I'm not saying that weed helps. I was saying that he should stop doing it all together and see medical help. He sounds like he should be medicated and talking to psychologist.
 

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Oh good, because I need the people around me who have fucked themselves up both mentally and physically with drugs to feel validated in some way for doing that. Thanks for the valuable input.
 

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Mazty said:
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First I need to calm down again. Second, I'm not saying that weed helps. I was saying that he should stop doing it all together and see medical help. He sounds like he should be medicated and talking to psychologist.
He does, but that's digressing from the point. The point being that weed has made his situation worse. Therefore it should not be legalised as weed is all medical cons and no pros.
Well don't you think alcoholics might go through the same thing hmmm? But, if some of its effects help cancer patients have an appetite cause frankly chemo sucks. Shouldn't they have that option. Your friend being screwed up mentally is no reason to deny them of that right.
 

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I'm pretty sick of these legalize marijuana threads. People are going to be the same on this thread as they are in any of the countless others we've had here. Also we've heard your argument made countless times before. Marijuana is addictive, just like anything else but not as bad as cigarettes. It's not so much the tobacco as it is the nicotine. One person did die of smoking pot, but he was doing something really retarded (I have to find my notes since this was brought up in class) not because he overdosed or anything. It is possible to overdose. Your brain goes into catatonic shock. However, the amount of weed required is more than most can afford and chances are you'll fall asleep before you can get it all in you. As for the politics, like cotton? Well as long as you keep buying cotton your precious plant will never be legalized in the United States (although you are from the U.K so I'm not sure on the story there). In the U.S, the plant was made illegal because like you said, hemp is versatile and cotton growers didn't want competition.
 

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Family Guy is not the 100% accurate political soapbox that Seth MacFarlane would like it to be. Everything is NOT better with a bag of weed.
 

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Actually, I have a better question. What exactly makes alcohol, leading cause of car accidents; liver failures and domestic violence, more socially acceptable than marijuana a drug that's pretty much opposite of the former as far as effects go and would probably be much safer for personal use if applied with similiar government regulations booze gets?

Tell me, could the income from alcohol taxes possibly be the only reason the the government hasn't bannned this shit yet and re-rated it as an A-class drug?
Remember prohibition? Organized crime was born when alcohol was banned, and everything was in chaos.
 

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Funny how this thread popped up after I had a conversation with my sister about this last week.

First, I don't drink nor do I smoke.

Second, If alcohol is allowed, then why not pot? I mean, has anyone ever heard of a violent pothead?

"THEMS MY FUNNIONS!" *HULKS OUT*

Nope. I think Seth Rogan is a perfect example of a pot head. . .Believe me, 'Pineapple Express' showed me many things. XD
 

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JakubK666 said:
Actually, I have a better question. What exactly makes alcohol, leading cause of car accidents; liver failures and domestic violence, more socially acceptable than marijuana a drug that's pretty much opposite of the former as far as effects go and would probably be much safer for personal use if applied with similiar government regulations booze gets?

Tell me, could the income from alcohol taxes possibly be the only reason the the government hasn't bannned this shit yet and re-rated it as an A-class drug?
That's what I've been trying to tell pople for the last 100 posts.
 

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megapenguinx said:
JakubK666 said:
Actually, I have a better question. What exactly makes alcohol, leading cause of car accidents; liver failures and domestic violence, more socially acceptable than marijuana a drug that's pretty much opposite of the former as far as effects go and would probably be much safer for personal use if applied with similiar government regulations booze gets?

Tell me, could the income from alcohol taxes possibly be the only reason the the government hasn't bannned this shit yet and re-rated it as an A-class drug?
Remember prohibition? Organized crime was born when alcohol was banned, and everything was in chaos.
Yes and when it was made legal again, organized crime started to die. It was when people found drugs that it started going up again. ORganized crime's main sources of income are drugs, weapons and rap. We're cracking down on weapons, rap is legal and the only thing left is drugs.
 

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megapenguinx said:
I'm pretty sick of these legalize marijuana threads. People are going to be the same on this thread as they are in any of the countless others we've had here. Also we've heard your argument made countless times before. Marijuana is addictive, just like anything else but not as bad as cigarettes. It's not so much the tobacco as it is the nicotine. One person did die of smoking pot, but he was doing something really retarded (I have to find my notes since this was brought up in class) not because he overdosed or anything. It is possible to overdose. Your brain goes into catatonic shock. However, the amount of weed required is more than most can afford and chances are you'll fall asleep before you can get it all in you. As for the politics, like cotton? Well as long as you keep buying cotton your precious plant will never be legalized in the United States (although you are from the U.K so I'm not sure on the story there). In the U.S, the plant was made illegal because like you said, hemp is versatile and cotton growers didn't want competition.
I understand the annoyance at legalizing threads, this just happened to be the first issue I chose for rants that have made me rather popular on other sites.
 

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Mazty said:
bue519 said:
Well don't you think alcoholics might go through the same thing hmmm? But, if some of its effects help cancer patients have an appetite cause frankly chemo sucks. Shouldn't they have that option. Your friend being screwed up mentally is no reason to deny them of that right.
alcohol is medically beneficial to everyone.
Wow, all I have to say is wow. I thought you had valid arguments up till now
 

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Panzer_God said:
megapenguinx said:
JakubK666 said:
Actually, I have a better question. What exactly makes alcohol, leading cause of car accidents; liver failures and domestic violence, more socially acceptable than marijuana a drug that's pretty much opposite of the former as far as effects go and would probably be much safer for personal use if applied with similiar government regulations booze gets?

Tell me, could the income from alcohol taxes possibly be the only reason the the government hasn't bannned this shit yet and re-rated it as an A-class drug?
Remember prohibition? Organized crime was born when alcohol was banned, and everything was in chaos.
Yes and when it was made legal again, organized crime started to die. It was when people found drugs that it started going up again. ORganized crime's main sources of income are drugs, weapons and rap. We're cracking down on weapons, rap is legal and the only thing left is drugs.
Uh no, actually organized crime stuck around and started doing other things (like running extra food to people for the right price during the war along with other things). How is rap one of organized crimes incomes? You're forgetting prostitution, identity theft, and forgery.
 

bue519

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Mazty said:
bue519 said:
Well don't you think alcoholics might go through the same thing hmmm? But, if some of its effects help cancer patients have an appetite cause frankly chemo sucks. Shouldn't they have that option. Your friend being screwed up mentally is no reason to deny them of that right.
Weed is only beneficial in very few cases, whereas alcohol is medically beneficial to everyone. Weed can remain illegal but be prescribed in the few cases it can help a person, which seems right. Either way, weed shouldn't be legalised because people are reckless & 99% of the time it just causes problems.
Clearly you think it should be available to everyone. Why is that, remembering that 90% of the time weed is used with tobacco and so has all the problems of smoking attached to it.
Well considering how many wives are beaten and fatalities that are due to alcohol. I can't really agree thats its medically beneficial. Also alcoholism is still also still running rampant, and it really can destroy families.
EDIT: I have also never met anyone who used tobacco with pot. I guess that its a regional thing, but I havn't seen any of that.
 

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Panzer_God said:
megapenguinx said:
I'm pretty sick of these legalize marijuana threads. People are going to be the same on this thread as they are in any of the countless others we've had here. Also we've heard your argument made countless times before. Marijuana is addictive, just like anything else but not as bad as cigarettes. It's not so much the tobacco as it is the nicotine. One person did die of smoking pot, but he was doing something really retarded (I have to find my notes since this was brought up in class) not because he overdosed or anything. It is possible to overdose. Your brain goes into catatonic shock. However, the amount of weed required is more than most can afford and chances are you'll fall asleep before you can get it all in you. As for the politics, like cotton? Well as long as you keep buying cotton your precious plant will never be legalized in the United States (although you are from the U.K so I'm not sure on the story there). In the U.S, the plant was made illegal because like you said, hemp is versatile and cotton growers didn't want competition.
I understand the annoyance at legalizing threads, this just happened to be the first issue I chose for rants that have made me rather popular on other sites.
Word of advise, look through posting guidelines (this goes for all you kiddies out there) before posting. Rants are usually not very welcome and this kind of rant won't exactly make you popular here. It's just divide the escapist into the few that agree with you, those that hate you, and those that think you're annoying for posting a thread done to death. Sorry if that sounded a bit harsh, but it's just the way it is.